Melissa

Russellville, KY

#23 Sep 16, 2012
Kathy wrote:
Have heard a lot about downs syndrome lately with the walk coming up, but while a lot of downs people are nice, some are equally as dangerous. About 30 years ago a downs boy attacked my daughter and almost but her nose off, she still to this day are scared of them.
I think our news outlet should also point out the facts that they can be dangerous too.
Really, why would you even get on here talk about this??? You have nothing better to do then to talk about other people. To start a line of conversation that never should have started. Hope you feel real good about yourself. It's people like you that start the discrimination of those that are different. You really need help!!!
Intheknow

Bowling Green, KY

#24 Sep 19, 2012
Yeah, they are strong too. Like they are possessed or something.

See how stupid that sounds. Kathy, go look in the mirror and slap yourself.
siren

United States

#25 Sep 19, 2012
i am absolutely disgusted with the original poster of this thread. I am literally shaking with rage right now. How dare you kathy? Really, how dare you? You know what's a million times more dangerous than individuals with down syndrome? Ignorant, uneducated fools that for some reason actually get to raise children. Not only does my little sister have down syndrome, i have also made a career of working with young adults who have this condition. Do you even know what down syndrome IS kathy?? These are some of the most gentle, loving, honest, open, and compassionate people i have ever met. I have volunteered for special olympics since i was a kid, volunteered on a special needs t-ball team for 5 years, worked since i was 18 as a personal care assistant for young adults with down syndrome, currently provide art lessons to those with down syndrome, and of course- grew up with my sister. Based on my extensive work with down syndrome i'd say i'm qualified to comment here. You are truly pathetic in your attempt to attack an entire group of individuals with little to no knowledge of what you are speaking. And by the way- in 25 years, i have never even seen a physical confrontation started by someone with down's. These people have a hard enough time overcoming their limitations and society's stigma without people like you making it harder. Just for the record- my sister won prom queen of her high school in her senior year- at a regular public school. She volunteers and does art with the vsa that has been shown in galleries and exhibitions. So kathy- until you know and understand the facts, keep your fingers off the keyboard and get an education. Peace.
Sue

Bowling Green, KY

#26 Sep 19, 2012
siren wrote:
i am absolutely disgusted with the original poster of this thread. I am literally shaking with rage right now. How dare you kathy? Really, how dare you? You know what's a million times more dangerous than individuals with down syndrome? Ignorant, uneducated fools that for some reason actually get to raise children. Not only does my little sister have down syndrome, i have also made a career of working with young adults who have this condition. Do you even know what down syndrome IS kathy?? These are some of the most gentle, loving, honest, open, and compassionate people i have ever met. I have volunteered for special olympics since i was a kid, volunteered on a special needs t-ball team for 5 years, worked since i was 18 as a personal care assistant for young adults with down syndrome, currently provide art lessons to those with down syndrome, and of course- grew up with my sister. Based on my extensive work with down syndrome i'd say i'm qualified to comment here. You are truly pathetic in your attempt to attack an entire group of individuals with little to no knowledge of what you are speaking. And by the way- in 25 years, i have never even seen a physical confrontation started by someone with down's. These people have a hard enough time overcoming their limitations and society's stigma without people like you making it harder. Just for the record- my sister won prom queen of her high school in her senior year- at a regular public school. She volunteers and does art with the vsa that has been shown in galleries and exhibitions. So kathy- until you know and understand the facts, keep your fingers off the keyboard and get an education. Peace.


Thank you.
siren

United States

#27 Sep 19, 2012
Sue wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you.
:) its my pleasure...truly :) making the decision to work for and with these individuals has been the most rewarding thing in my life. I have never seen such love and acceptance as i have from these people.
aap13

Bowling Green, KY

#28 Sep 21, 2012
Kathy wrote:
Have heard a lot about downs syndrome lately with the walk coming up, but while a lot of downs people are nice, some are equally as dangerous. About 30 years ago a downs boy attacked my daughter and almost but her nose off, she still to this day are scared of them.
I think our news outlet should also point out the facts that they can be dangerous too.
I feel more sorry for your daughter because you are a judgmental, ignorant, and backward person. I have never heard such nonsense, you should be thankful that your child dosen't have such an illnes, instead of passing judgment. You have no idea what these people go through... My last question: how did he "but" her nose off? Your daughter is over thirty years old and is scared of "them"... I am assuming you and your daughter are not college educated?
not a rocket scientist

Bowling Green, KY

#29 Sep 21, 2012
I think it's really sad how NOBODY has said they are sorry for this mother who's daughter almost had her nose bitten off. We ALL form opinions based on experiences. You all apparently have a family member or someone you know who has been effected by this disease, but this mother and her daughter have had a tramatic experience too. Lot's of people are scared of things for life after a tramatic experience. A child attacked by a dog is many times afraid of dogs their whole life. Many women in an abusive relationship end up scared of men for life. Someone who was in a robbery situation may be scared of certain people that remind them of the robber. A child molested by a priest will likely grow up frightened of all priests, things like that. It's normal. She wasn't hating on all, but sharing her own personal experience.
Betty

Bowling Green, KY

#30 Sep 21, 2012
not a rocket scientist wrote:
I think it's really sad how NOBODY has said they are sorry for this mother who's daughter almost had her nose bitten off. We ALL form opinions based on experiences. You all apparently have a family member or someone you know who has been effected by this disease, but this mother and her daughter have had a tramatic experience too. Lot's of people are scared of things for life after a tramatic experience. A child attacked by a dog is many times afraid of dogs their whole life. Many women in an abusive relationship end up scared of men for life. Someone who was in a robbery situation may be scared of certain people that remind them of the robber. A child molested by a priest will likely grow up frightened of all priests, things like that. It's normal. She wasn't hating on all, but sharing her own personal experience.
She wasn't just asking to talk about a past traumatic experience, though. She got on a public forum and stated the news should do a story about how dangerous "these people" can be. So if we follow those standards and use your examples from above, the news should do stories on how dangerous people with Downs Syndrome, dogs, men, and priests might be. That's the problem I see. We all go through traumatic experiences, but that does not excuse making uneducated blanket statements on a public forum expecting no reactions and opinions from other people.
Wanda

Alliance, OH

#31 Sep 21, 2012
not a rocket scientist wrote:
I think it's really sad how NOBODY has said they are sorry for this mother who's daughter almost had her nose bitten off. We ALL form opinions based on experiences. You all apparently have a family member or someone you know who has been effected by this disease, but this mother and her daughter have had a tramatic experience too. Lot's of people are scared of things for life after a tramatic experience. A child attacked by a dog is many times afraid of dogs their whole life. Many women in an abusive relationship end up scared of men for life. Someone who was in a robbery situation may be scared of certain people that remind them of the robber. A child molested by a priest will likely grow up frightened of all priests, things like that. It's normal. She wasn't hating on all, but sharing her own personal experience.
Well then . If you want to apologize you go right ahead.
LINK

Scottsville, KY

#32 Sep 22, 2012
Kathy wrote:
Have heard a lot about downs syndrome lately with the walk coming up, but while a lot of downs people are nice, some are equally as dangerous. About 30 years ago a downs boy attacked my daughter and almost but her nose off, she still to this day are scared of them.
I think our news outlet should also point out the facts that they can be dangerous too.
Kathy , yes, but , they really dont mean to be that way , they will always for most of these children have the brain of a child .. children get mad frustrated , I seen this and seen you were being jumped on I thought what a bunch of crap , instead of jumping on some one that they do not know any thing about ?? not one of the so called family or mothers here even tried to educate us on their family with downs ,,sooo i went to research myself, there is mild to moderate to severe. Education is the key to understanding , without understanding we have no compassion.. when we have compassion along with understanding .. we are then educated .. I stayed up and researched down syndrome children .. there are so many levels , most have so many health problems ,, sad .. but yes they get aggravated , frustrated .. its so hard to explain .. if these mothers and family members were to xplain and educate us , we might understand and have more compassion .. but when a person comes on a forum and states her true story and gets a mob attack .. where is the compassion for you .. not one of these tried to educate us , not a one .. Trisomy .. I never heard of it until I Googled down syndrome , there are so many Trisomy babies , sad .. Trisomy means .. three .. trisomy 21 also known as downs syndrome. so , I am going to leave you a link Kathy http://www.downsyndrome.ie/index.php/general-...
ellen

Morgantown, KY

#33 Sep 22, 2012
I just had to post on this one. See I am now over 40 and when I was a teenager, there was the special boy that road our bus. Yes I said special because he was not because of this ,but because , in my life I have never met another man this kind hearted. He had this huge crush on me and and had to set with me every morning and evening on the way home. Sometimes we spoke, sang, laughed and just always enjoyed each others company. Does is sound like I loved him? Yes I did , not as a lover but as someone God meant for me to love. That God sent into my life for a reason. He has passed on , now, but I will never in my life set judgement against those who are different , because I know ,of one special man that was better to me than any man could ever be, who is most for sure to be with God. Maybe we all could learn such a lesson from those that look thru their heart and not their eyes. Oh and by the way , I was not homey as some will say from this , I was homecoming queen, and I am now doing well with my life and career ( well I guess you could say that ) so no I had others willing to set with me, but for me he was the King. Close your eyes and open your heart.
Lisa

Canton, OH

#34 Sep 22, 2012
"Link" I sure do agree with you! I never did like the way people "pounce" on others!!!
LINK

Scottsville, KY

#35 Sep 22, 2012
What causes Down syndrome?
Normally in reproduction, the egg cell of the mother and the sperm cell of the father start out with the usual number of 46 chromosomes. The egg and sperm cells undergo cell division where the 46 chromosomes are divided in half and the egg and the sperm cells end up with 23 chromosomes each. When a sperm with 23 chromosomes fertilizes an egg with 23 chromosomes, the baby ends up with a complete set of 46 chromosomes, half from the father and half from the mother.

Sometimes, an error occurs when the 46 chromosomes are being divided in half and an egg or sperm cell keeps both copies of the #21 chromosome instead of just one copy. If this egg or sperm is fertilized, the baby ends up with three copies of the #21 chromosome and this is called "trisomy 21" or Down syndrome. The features of Down syndrome result from having an extra copy of chromosome 21 in every cell in the body.

Ninety-five percent of Down syndrome results from trisomy 21. Occasionally, the extra chromosome 21 is attached to another chromosome in the egg or sperm; this may result in what is called "translocation" Down syndrome (3 to 4 percent of cases). This is the only form of Down syndrome that can sometimes be inherited from a parent. Some parents have a rearrangement called a balanced translocation, where the #21 chromosome is attached to another chromosome, but it does not affect his/her health. Rarely, a form of Down syndrome called "mosaic" Down syndrome may occur when an error in cell division occurs after fertilization (1 to 2 percent of cases). These persons have some cells with an extra chromosome 21 and others with the normal number.
LINK

Scottsville, KY

#36 Sep 22, 2012
What are the maternal age risks for Down syndrome?
Maternal Age Risk at birth
25 years 1 in 1250
30 years 1 in 840
35 years 1 in 356
40 years 1 in 94
45 years 1 in 24
not a rocket scientist

Bowling Green, KY

#37 Sep 22, 2012
Thank you for the info Link!
LINK

Scottsville, KY

#38 Sep 22, 2012
not a rocket scientist wrote:
Thank you for the info Link!
You are very welcome .. last night as I was researching for myself for understanding of Down syndrome I went to you tube. I cried , these baby's cant help who they are . I have heard people say they would not keep a baby like that ? A baby like that ? that just proves how misinformed we as a nation are about these human being's. They are someones baby they are some ones child ... The video's I came upon last night made me cry , made me smile .. Thank you God for helping me understand. To all you family member's of a child with Trisomy of any level. May God Bless every step you take. To those that wish to look , the video I am going to leave you is amazing , the toddler has downs and is using sign language. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
my heart

Bowling Green, KY

#39 Sep 22, 2012
is overflowing with emotion. Not just because of these beautiful people with downs syndrome, but because Link has restored my faith in the human race! Link was proactive not reactive and put the time and effort into helping all on this forum. Thank you Link. The world is a better place because of you:)
siren

United States

#40 Sep 22, 2012
i appreciate that you are trying to inform people about what down sydrome is, but when you stated that no one else had tried to do so- you were wrong. It is NOT 'babies like these' or people like these- it is babies and people, period. It is not a disease. A disease is a sickness, an infection. Down syndrome is not. It is nothing more than an extra chromosome. When a person has an extra chromosome, the others are crowded and have to work extra hard to perform their intended functions. When the others on here said that those with down syndrome are caring, compassionate, kind, etc- they WERE informing the public on what kids or adults with downs are like. I cannot reiterate enough the importance that people with down syndrome are NOT down syndrome, nor are they 'afflicted', they are people plain and simple. If you truly want to learn about down syndrome i would recommend you get in touch with the down syndrome of south central kentucky organization, volunteer at one of their many activities, get out and get involved with your community and work hands on. Their is no knowledge quite like that learned through first hand experience.
Ellen

Morgantown, KY

#41 Sep 22, 2012
siren wrote:
i appreciate that you are trying to inform people about what down sydrome is, but when you stated that no one else had tried to do so- you were wrong. It is NOT 'babies like these' or people like these- it is babies and people, period. It is not a disease. A disease is a sickness, an infection. Down syndrome is not. It is nothing more than an extra chromosome. When a person has an extra chromosome, the others are crowded and have to work extra hard to perform their intended functions. When the others on here said that those with down syndrome are caring, compassionate, kind, etc- they WERE informing the public on what kids or adults with downs are like. I cannot reiterate enough the importance that people with down syndrome are NOT down syndrome, nor are they 'afflicted', they are people plain and simple. If you truly want to learn about down syndrome i would recommend you get in touch with the down syndrome of south central kentucky organization, volunteer at one of their many activities, get out and get involved with your community and work hands on. Their is no knowledge quite like that learned through first hand experience.
That is so true, see not only did I have a special bond with that special boy , that God sent into my life , I think he did it for a reason. See I have a special needs child and I feel as if God knew I was someone who could deal with it all. So yes they are just like us , God just saw fit to make them a little more special.
Bowling green high

Sarasota, FL

#42 Oct 7, 2012
Anyone with a mental handicap can present dangers. If you take 50 random people and throw them in a room, one of them will probably be a murderer or sex offender. Downs patients can have a violent side if other retardation is diagnosed, you put 50 downs people in a room together, one of them will be a danger. The media should not categorize all downs as sweet people just based on one persons views. I have seen downs patients attack another person before due to there issues, most may be kind hearted, but there always a small percentage that may not be that way.

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