SKYPAC, seriously???
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bookbuyer

Bowling Green, KY

#1 Jun 17, 2010
Does anyone else care that this project is a blackhole for tax dollars? BG Citizens should take time to read the Daily News article and see that the board is wasting another $5,000 to find another highly paid director for SKYPAC.

Love the way they estimate total attendance at events that aren't even scheduled for the first year at 163,000 patrons. That would average out to 2,500 attendees for 65 events in the first year. Good luck with that number. Read this and weep:

http://www.bgdailynews.com/articles/2010/06/1...
Mee

United States

#2 Jun 17, 2010
I hope it succeeds. Everyone complains that there's nothing to do in Bg. Well we have baseball now and soon to have shows and music events. I think it's great.
bookbuyer

Bowling Green, KY

#3 Jun 17, 2010
Mee wrote:
I hope it succeeds. Everyone complains that there's nothing to do in Bg. Well we have baseball now and soon to have shows and music events. I think it's great.
Baseball is fun but attendance is way down this year so who will pay for it (wanna guess taxpayers). SKYPAC will only cater to the usual Capital Theatre crowd which wasn't able to garner enough support to be successful.

You need to get in touch with reality.
BG Gal

Bowling Green, KY

#4 Jun 17, 2010
Attendance is only down about 2% from last year. Not that bad, considering the team started off so badly. They are starting to turn it around though.
Mee

United States

#5 Jun 17, 2010
Capital theatre isn't big enough to bring in any natinal touring shows. Therefore they don't draw as much. Hopefully skypac will
bring in some broadway shows, touring comedians and concerts
Bgky

Canton, OH

#6 Jun 17, 2010
Mee wrote:
Capital theatre isn't big enough to bring in any natinal touring shows. Therefore they don't draw as much. Hopefully skypac will
bring in some broadway shows, touring comedians and concerts
I hope you are correct but don't see it happening since the capacity is just a couple of thousand. How do you think the place will bring in big show with so few seats? There just aren't that many millionaires in BG.

My bet is the thing will be lucky to sell out a few times per year and the city will be left with the bill. I agree that there hasn't been enough scrutiny of this project and wonder who the hell is paying the salaries of the director?
lone wolf

Evansville, IN

#7 Jun 17, 2010
bookbuyer wrote:
Does anyone else care that this project is a blackhole for tax dollars? BG Citizens should take time to read the Daily News article and see that the board is wasting another $5,000 to find another highly paid director for SKYPAC.
Love the way they estimate total attendance at events that aren't even scheduled for the first year at 163,000 patrons. That would average out to 2,500 attendees for 65 events in the first year. Good luck with that number. Read this and weep:
http://www.bgdailynews.com/articles/2010/06/1...
What do ya expect we got morons running the city. I don't know why Walker was re-elected last time. Then we got people like Hammilton on the commision. The local government needs a change from these tax and spend people that are running it now.
Wino

Georgetown, IN

#8 Jun 18, 2010
The place only seats 1,800 so without a lot of other functions being there, it is impossible for them to break even.

http://www.wbko.com/home/headlines/52982282.h...
bookbuyer

Bowling Green, KY

#9 Jun 18, 2010
Oh well, I am sorry I over-estimated their seating capacity but you are correct about SKYPAC breaking even. One would think there would be more outrage in these tough economic times. I guess the elites at WKU and on our City Commission are brazen enough to do what they want and get away with it.

Looking at the slate of candidates in the fall city commission election I don't see much hope for change. Just more of the same.
please

AOL

#10 Jun 18, 2010
If we get something in BG you all bi*ch. And if we don't you still have to bi*ch. GET OVER IT............
Mee

United States

#11 Jun 18, 2010
I was under the impression it was gona seat around 3000. May b harder to get bigger
shows
Bgky

Canton, OH

#12 Jun 19, 2010
Mee wrote:
I was under the impression it was gona seat around 3000. May b harder to get bigger
shows
The place may get one or two a year but at huge ticket prices. It is just another project built for the elite few at the expense of taxpayers. Congratulations BG, screwed again.
IceMan

Toledo, OH

#13 Jun 20, 2010
I too thought everyone said it would seat 3,000+. Driving by it everyday there is no way it's even close to those numbers.
hmmmm

Evansville, IN

#14 Jun 20, 2010
BG will never get the "A" shows that we would want for a venue such as SKyPAC because of our proximity to Nashville and Louisville. Any large touring show will go to ether Nashville or Louisville simply due to population size and would be extremely unlikely to do a second show so close and in such a small city like BG. The really sad part is that those pushing the SKyPAC project are well aware of this fact because they have had conversations with national promoters and were told that BG would be an extremely unlikely stop for most shows-even if it had enough seating capacity.
A fraction of the money being spent on SKyPAC should have been used to make needed improvements to the Capital since it is actually a more appropriate venue for a town of our size (not to mention its historic role in the community).
Bgky

Canton, OH

#15 Jun 21, 2010
hmmmm wrote:
BG will never get the "A" shows that we would want for a venue such as SKyPAC because of our proximity to Nashville and Louisville. Any large touring show will go to ether Nashville or Louisville simply due to population size and would be extremely unlikely to do a second show so close and in such a small city like BG. The really sad part is that those pushing the SKyPAC project are well aware of this fact because they have had conversations with national promoters and were told that BG would be an extremely unlikely stop for most shows-even if it had enough seating capacity.
A fraction of the money being spent on SKyPAC should have been used to make needed improvements to the Capital since it is actually a more appropriate venue for a town of our size (not to mention its historic role in the community).
And not to mention the financial mess the city of BG is in the past few years. We really needed SKYPAC, right? Just another project built to benefit the WKU elite.
Bgky

Canton, OH

#16 Jun 21, 2010
Bgky wrote:
<quoted text>
And not to mention the financial mess the city of BG is in the past few years. We really needed SKYPAC, right? Just another project built to benefit the WKU elite.
I did fail to mention that the lack of a parking garage will not be an issue with SKYPAC. No need for the garage since they should be able to fit all the patrons in the new, fantastic, gravel lot at Hot Rod Stadium. Maybe that is a positive thing.

“Meanwhile Back At The Ranch.”

Since: Sep 08

Tompkinsville,Ky.

#17 Jun 21, 2010
skypac,ball park,trans park,selling a building for a buck and then paying 6 or 9 figures to buy it back,sidewalks on top of side walks,excessive travel and travel expenses by the mayor..........

point is skypac is just one of the many projects/ actions our elected just had to have but will over burden an already over taxed taxpayer.

the voter/taxpayer in bowling green / warren county have certain elected who don't care to dream big when it's not their money being spent.
HLW

Bargersville, IN

#18 Sep 10, 2010
This facility is roughly the same size of a PAC being built in Carmel, IN. I live in Indianapolis, IN and i'm very familiar with both the BG project and the one in Carmel, IN. The facility in Carmel is going to draw national shows and acts. Size is not the problem. Both facilities have a 1,600 seat concert hall, and the BG facility will have 50 seats less in the theatre (450). Combined the BG facility will have over 2000 seats. Both cities are the same size. The difference is who you hire to run the facility, and demographics. Bowling Green needs to do like Carmel and hire someone who doesn't live 100 miles from BG, and actually get someone who knows how big productions are to be ran, and book many small and medium shows constantly. Also get WKU's orchestra to lease space or have concerts constantly. The other difference is Carmel's population is very well paid. It has some of the highest household incomes in the country. Also Carmel is located just north of Indianapolis (surburb) and has a reach of over 2 million people. Indianapolis has a massive theatre population and it's own district so Carmel has a lot to prove and has to market hard to keep their facility going due to being so close to a major city. Bowling Green doesn't really have that issue. Nashville and Louisville are still small markets, and don't really pull from Bowling Green as much as in the past.
I think BG will succeed only if it involves WKU and charge those shows, hold many events, and get a good director who knows what they are doing. Otherwise the project will sink.
Dorians Wench

Canton, OH

#19 Sep 11, 2010
For all of the dorks who think SKpac will cost YOU tax dollars, perhaps you need to:

1. Take a class on reading comprehension
2. Continue to bitch and moan about "your" taxes
3. Take the time to understand the project from a source other than the Daily news.

Skypac will NOT raise your taxes in any way. Its' funded by bond sales. People that invest in bonds are at risk. Here's an idea, don't invest in those bonds and you won't have to worry about it. And bookbuyer, looks like the hotrods attendance was up in a down economy.

There is only ONE investment downtown that utilized City taxpayers money. A 25 million General Obligation bond to contruct the ball park. That's it. Every other project is being financed privately and by other financing methods. None of them are by YOUR tax dollars.

Do you bitch about how much the city spends on retirement for public safety officials>? Sidewalks? Landscaping? New vehicles for parks and recs employees? The city (if there is NO TIF revenue) will spend 1.6 million a year for the ballpark. This is in a 110 MILLION DOLLAR Budget.

Think before you type bookbuyer..........
skepticBG

New Albany, IN

#20 Sep 11, 2010
Where do you think the money will come from to pay back the bonds? The city or county will have to pay them off! Do YOU understand the bonds have to be repaid with interest?? BG or WC will not default on the bonds.

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