Sun products Bowling Green will go union
another sun worker

Elizabethtown, KY

#22 Sep 27, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Yep,the slaughter house guys will do anything to get the cows up the chute. The surprise waits around the corner!


Ok you are ridiculous, have you ever worked for ICWU???? If not, then shut up, I'm tired of you idiots that think you know it all cause you had a bad experience, a Union is not a 3rd party that just comes in to collect dues, the employees are the Union, standing together to become 1. We set the amount we pay for dues, we sit down and write the contract to submit to the negotiation team,so get informed before you Speak.

Since: Sep 12

Atwater, OH

#23 Oct 1, 2012
Whats wrong with you people are not sick of getting pooed on but you want a change but no union. This is the only way to get what we deserve. Sun and ron dont give a dam about you its what ever they can do to line there pockets on our work. im for one am willing to pay a little extra to get what i need to support my family..........RON WAS NEVER GOING TO GIVE US RAISE!!!!!!!!!!
just another worker

Canton, OH

#24 Oct 1, 2012
Rons Family wrote:
Whats wrong with you people are not sick of getting pooed on but you want a change but no union. This is the only way to get what we deserve. Sun and ron dont give a dam about you its what ever they can do to line there pockets on our work. im for one am willing to pay a little extra to get what i need to support my family..........RON WAS NEVER GOING TO GIVE US RAISE!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't like it why don't you just leave.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#25 Oct 1, 2012
another sun worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok you are ridiculous, have you ever worked for ICWU???? If not, then shut up, I'm tired of you idiots that think you know it all cause you had a bad experience, a Union is not a 3rd party that just comes in to collect dues, the employees are the Union, standing together to become 1. We set the amount we pay for dues, we sit down and write the contract to submit to the negotiation team,so get informed before you Speak.
Unions open wounds that never heal. When the plant bleeds all it can,it dies,and so do your jobs. Union pride won't feed your family. If you've got enough saved up to live a few years without income you're ok,but many of your co-workers don't have that cushion. Think long and hard about having to find other employment in this down economy.
Another Sun Worker

Bowling Green, KY

#26 Oct 3, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Unions open wounds that never heal. When the plant bleeds all it can,it dies,and so do your jobs. Union pride won't feed your family. If you've got enough saved up to live a few years without income you're ok,but many of your co-workers don't have that cushion. Think long and hard about having to find other employment in this down economy.
Like I Said Before, Shut Up!!! Have You Ever Worked for ICWU??? If not then Quit Dogging it out, you have NO CLUE!!!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#27 Oct 3, 2012
You seem to believe the ICWU is different than other unions and peoples personal experiences with unions don't apply to this situation. I tend to believe those with real experience. Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
another sun worker

Bowling Green, KY

#28 Oct 4, 2012
It is different, and yes, you shouldnt judge a book by the cover, because you had a bad experience.All im saying is get the facts before you just write off, not all Union`s are bad.
Weingarten

Crozet, VA

#29 Oct 4, 2012
You folks would get rid of about 3/4's of your Managers with a Union. Why ? Because you won't need them.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#30 Oct 4, 2012
Weingarten wrote:
You folks would get rid of about 3/4's of your Managers with a Union. Why ? Because you won't need them.
Say what?
Clayton Bixby

Franklin, KY

#31 Oct 5, 2012
I's amazing how scared people are to stand up for themselves. They'll sit quietly while some bigwig steps on their face while lining his pockets with the fruits of their hard labor and offering them absolutely none. How do you think some people can afford these 500,000 dollar homes around here?

If you want a union, the absolute first thing you have to do is recruit folks who are even mildly financially independent of the company. You know, the smart people who have an emergency fund and at least a modest savings account. Most people these days are too damn stupid to do that though. Everyone thinks they have to spend their money just as fast or faster than they can get it. Dumb people are the bane of unions, and we obviously have no shortage of those around here.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#32 Oct 5, 2012
People should keep in the back of their minds that when you're out looking for another job after being in a strike, major labor dispute, or a plant move because of union activity,you run into employers that won't hire you because they don't want the trouble and attitude that the ex-union plant employees carry forward with them. The people need work but to hire them is like inviting infection to a little scratch.
team manager

Greenville, KY

#33 Nov 22, 2012
hi everyone
team manager

Greenville, KY

#34 Nov 22, 2012
Sun products pays me a lot of money plus a big bonus every year. I don't really have any skills except sucking up, and being a yes man. I think a union would make my job a lot harder. So give a guy a break , and vote NO..........PLEASE!!!
not a rocket scientist

Denver, CO

#35 Nov 22, 2012
I've never belonged to a union, and I don't work for Sun. But,$22 a check seems like a lot to me. That's over $1,000 for a year! Multiply that times how may employees.... what exactly are they doing with that money for you?
By the way, Sun isn't the only employer shopping around for insurance. Obamacare is starting to have a trickle down effect I think.

Since: Jun 12

Dunmor, KY

#36 Nov 22, 2012
not a rocket scientist wrote:
I've never belonged to a union, and I don't work for Sun. But,$22 a check seems like a lot to me. That's over $1,000 for a year! Multiply that times how may employees.... what exactly are they doing with that money for you?
By the way, Sun isn't the only employer shopping around for insurance. Obamacare is starting to have a trickle down effect I think.
Union dues average about 1% of wages. The average union member makes 17% more than his like-industry nonunion counterpart. Would you be willing to pay 1% for a 17% raise??:) It doesn't cost to be a union member - it pays.
Thunder

Louisville, KY

#37 Nov 22, 2012
team manager wrote:
Sun products pays me a lot of money plus a big bonus every year. I don't really have any skills except sucking up, and being a yes man. I think a union would make my job a lot harder. So give a guy a break , and vote NO..........PLEASE!!!
I see a big promotion in your future if you are very skilled at saying "YES" to any demands they put on you and especially since you have the critically important competency of sucking up! One thing that you might want to work on to assure your promotion is getting in good with the 'good ole boys' at Sun, too. LOL
Yeah, a union can make it tough on management. It's always tough when increases in pay are not just for us managers anymore, we actually have to consistently apply company policy, and have to take what our employees are saying seriously. BTW--I'm a manager, not at Sun but am friends with about 10 people who work there both hourly and managers.
not a rocket scientist

La Grange, KY

#38 Nov 22, 2012
rwtaylor56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Union dues average about 1% of wages. The average union member makes 17% more than his like-industry nonunion counterpart. Would you be willing to pay 1% for a 17% raise??:) It doesn't cost to be a union member - it pays.
Hmmmm, I don't know, that sounds too much like a sales pitch to me. I've always been told that if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is.
management

Franklin, KY

#39 Nov 22, 2012
Thunder wrote:
<quoted text>
I see a big promotion in your future if you are very skilled at saying "YES" to any demands they put on you and especially since you have the critically important competency of sucking up! One thing that you might want to work on to assure your promotion is getting in good with the 'good ole boys' at Sun, too. LOL
Yeah, a union can make it tough on management. It's always tough when increases in pay are not just for us managers anymore, we actually have to consistently apply company policy, and have to take what our employees are saying seriously. BTW--I'm a manager, not at Sun but am friends with about 10 people who work there both hourly and managers.
I totally agree!! I hate having to share my raise with those worthless whelps that I spend all day pushing around. People trying to get all uppity and get these unions is seriously starting to aggravate me and my chances for a big bonus.

Since: Jun 12

Dunmor, KY

#40 Nov 23, 2012
not a rocket scientist wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmm, I don't know, that sounds too much like a sales pitch to me. I've always been told that if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is.
Not a sales pitch, just a well-documented fact about the power of unity.
Whatever

Eddyville, KY

#41 Nov 24, 2012
Just vote already I am sick of this I want things to calm down at work and go to work in peace. Lets vote now so we can vote no and all the union reps go away.

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