Sun products Bowling Green will go union

Sun products Bowling Green will go union

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Since: Sep 12

Crestwood, KY

#1 Sep 15, 2012
Where to start... Ok how about here. Ron bold faced lied to you, me, and the rest of us when he said UFCW was "looking for new dues" Now firstly it was a small group of workers tired of watching everyone making their money off our hard work with no remorse for taking advantage of us. Secondly to clear up the rest of Ron's lies from his little posters planted all over the company. Strikes... If any of you had attended the union meetings you would know it requires a 75% vote from THE WORKERS! Another rumor you may have heard or may be fearing is the worry of Sun packing up the Bowling Green plant to Africa or god knows where else China perhaps.. This again is yet a RUMOR be smart now people. How much money did the company just spend for the "one roof program" They just built a ONE MILLION SQ foot warehouse.... They are not going anywhere for quite a while. Back to Ron's claims if anyone has read the newsletter posted all over the plant it states that with 30% of the employees signing the union card the union MAY be able to "demand" recognition WITHOUT you being able to vote. That is an abomination absolutely FALSE and the biggest lie that even Ron has had the audacity to spit out of his mouth. While yes the union does need 30% to hold a vote the union would need a MAJORITY as in 70% or more of cards signed to ASK for recognition at which point the company could accept or deny and then the labor board would be the next contact where yet again a VOTE would take place. Also somewhere I had heard someone saying that if we signed the cards Sun would find out. Yet again a scare tactic the only people who see your cards are the Union reps and the Labor board. Next topic to tackle is Union dues YAY! I love clearing up the fog laid down from the Bs Ron emanates. Ive heard alot about dues being 100$ a paycheck and thats one of the main reasons people are fearing this change now firstly union dues would be in a range anywhere from 23$ to 45$ A MONTH which is roughly 22$ a check. If that 22$ a month is too much for you to part with think about it this way. This past year Sun switched insurance (yet again) to Cigna so they could receive a discount. Did you notice a reduction in your insurance? because I noticed a raise in cost.In fact look at your check for the last month we were paid three times. If you didnt get charged insurance 3 times in that month consider yourself lucky.... Its Ridiculous but they do it because WE let them. Fun Sun Fact number 1 Bowling Green has the Highest OEE of all our sister plants However we are also the LEAST PAID and have the HIGHEST INSURANCE COST. So if that isn't called letting them take advantage of us then what is? Every Employee at Sun has one thing in common and its that we work for our families. We work to provide for them. we work to send our kids to field trips, to school dances, and to send them to college so they don't have to work the jobs we do. I don't care how much over time you work with no cost of living raise and the fact it will take you 20 years to top out with the pay per performance crap your lucky to support your family much less any extras. We truly NEED this and our "real" families need this.
Oh and Sun Products I just want you to know any employee you do have that is against the union is only against them because of reasons such as the above. NOT because you have their loyalty. I hope your proud of the way you run your company.
another sun worker

Bowling Green, KY

#3 Sep 15, 2012
Very Well Said,I encourage everyone to at least attend a meeting and get the facts for yourself, Its Your Life, Its YOUR CHOICE!!!!!
FBS

Bowling Green, KY

#4 Sep 15, 2012
Don"t believe a word Wayne Andersen says, he doesn't have a clue!

Since: Aug 12

United States

#5 Sep 15, 2012
Insurance rates are based on group composition. I dont know the demographics of Sun workers, but smokers, people over 45, multiple dependents and people deemed overweight all raise the cost of insurance in group policies. Insurance costs have nothing to do with union membership.

Since: Sep 12

Crestwood, KY

#6 Sep 15, 2012
Uptonogoodinbg wrote:
Insurance rates are based on group composition. I dont know the demographics of Sun workers, but smokers, people over 45, multiple dependents and people deemed overweight all raise the cost of insurance in group policies. Insurance costs have nothing to do with union membership.
Go to the union meeting we can get it changed they offer there own insurance policy if that is what we decide to do
wayne anderson

Hanna City, IL

#7 Sep 20, 2012
FBS wrote:
Don"t believe a word Wayne Andersen says, he doesn't have a clue!
i am glad you people hide behind a computer screen i bet you won't say that to my face you just keep listening to your union buddies. nobody is holding you here if you dont like sun products go find a new job if you can't make it.try working some overtime i have been here for 13 years and i am just fine. so you people need to evaluate your carrer path. when you applied to sun products you filled out your applacation you had an interview they told you how much you position was going to pay you, told you what your benifits package was, and you agreed to that.so why rock the boat find something better if you can.i am going to make an informed decision and do whats best for me and mine i suggest you do the same.so keep my name out of your conversations you are the people with no clue!
hostess

Canton, OH

#8 Sep 21, 2012
I'm a uion member now stay the hell away from them
ha ha

New Albany, IN

#9 Sep 22, 2012
yeah funny how's that union working out for you hostess lmao-i read that the union bought into the twinkies with 2 members on the board and getting sum 6 fig incomes from that plus 25% ownership and dues go up and you turds get a 8% pay cut,screw unions
billy the kid

Canton, OH

#10 Sep 23, 2012
ha ha wrote:
yeah funny how's that union working out for you hostess lmao-i read that the union bought into the twinkies with 2 members on the board and getting sum 6 fig incomes from that plus 25% ownership and dues go up and you turds get a 8% pay cut,screw unions
That's what I'm saying stay the hell away from them!!!!
WhoAreTheyReally

Hanna City, IL

#11 Sep 23, 2012
So now it's the International Chemical Workers Union Council (ICWUC) of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW)that wants to represent us. They want to be our voice,huh? Well, maybe we should know who it is that's wanting to sleep with us. Check this out from Sept 7, 2012 New York Daily News: UFCW Boss Gets 5 Years in Prison for $1.86 Million in Extortion Plot
NYDN:
A FORMER union leader who conspired with his father and another relative to extort $1.86 million from employers to ensure labor peacewas sentenced Monday to five years in prison.
Anthony Fazio Jr., 37, who was president of United Food and Commercial Workers Local 348 from January 2010 to November 2011, was found guilty in May of racketeering and extortion.
He was convicted along with his father, Anthony Fazio Sr., 66, president of the local from 1998 to 2009, and his cousin John Fazio, 40, a former vice president from 2000 to 2010.
They are to be sentenced Sept. 13.

No thanks, Union. I don't want to be represented by anyone but ME! No union at Sun!
another sun worker

Elizabethtown, KY

#12 Sep 23, 2012
That was a their local union retard. Not ucwu.
I Say YES

Bowling Green, KY

#13 Sep 25, 2012
WhoAreTheyReally wrote:
So now it's the International Chemical Workers Union Council (ICWUC) of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW)that wants to represent us. They want to be our voice,huh? Well, maybe we should know who it is that's wanting to sleep with us. Check this out from Sept 7, 2012 New York Daily News: UFCW Boss Gets 5 Years in Prison for $1.86 Million in Extortion Plot
NYDN:
A FORMER union leader who conspired with his father and another relative to extort $1.86 million from employers to ensure labor peacewas sentenced Monday to five years in prison.
Anthony Fazio Jr., 37, who was president of United Food and Commercial Workers Local 348 from January 2010 to November 2011, was found guilty in May of racketeering and extortion.
He was convicted along with his father, Anthony Fazio Sr., 66, president of the local from 1998 to 2009, and his cousin John Fazio, 40, a former vice president from 2000 to 2010.
They are to be sentenced Sept. 13.
No thanks, Union. I don't want to be represented by anyone but ME! No union at Sun!
Nice try... As your own quote states this was a LOCAL Union and as soon as it was found out they were charged and are going to JAIL for their crimes.

Reminder that Meetings are this week on Tuesday and Thursday at 1 PM at the Holiday Inn.

At least they answer questions in a group setting so WE can ALL hear the answers.

See Ya There!
ha ha

New Albany, IN

#14 Sep 26, 2012
have fun at your commie party comrades
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15 Sep 26, 2012
I Say YES wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try... As your own quote states this was a LOCAL Union and as soon as it was found out they were charged and are going to JAIL for their crimes.
Reminder that Meetings are this week on Tuesday and Thursday at 1 PM at the Holiday Inn.
At least they answer questions in a group setting so WE can ALL hear the answers.
See Ya There!
Yep,the slaughter house guys will do anything to get the cows up the chute. The surprise waits around the corner!
I Say YES

Bowling Green, KY

#16 Sep 26, 2012
See you all at the meeting on Thursday at 1 pm at the Holiday Inn.

Come and learn for yourselves. Don't listen to all the bull. You've been forced to listen to Ron and his silly lines. now come and hear the OTHER side. Then you can make your own decision.

Meetings again in two weeks.

We are NOT GOING AWAY!
I Say YES

Bowling Green, KY

#17 Sep 26, 2012
Ron says he wants to give us a raise, but can't because of the union. If you believe that... I've got some waterfront property in Florida for sale... Cheap! Just like Ron's words...
I Say YES

Bowling Green, KY

#18 Sep 26, 2012
He really thinks we are stupid...

Well, I'm NOT... and neither are YOU...

Come hear the another side...
billy the kid

Canton, OH

#19 Sep 27, 2012
I Say YES wrote:
Ron says he wants to give us a raise, but can't because of the union. If you believe that... I've got some waterfront property in Florida for sale... Cheap! Just like Ron's words...
if tom Dick or Harry wants to give you a raise and you got a contrect with the union guess what no raise.
Sun Team Manager

United States

#20 Sep 27, 2012
I Say YES wrote:
Ron says he wants to give us a raise, but can't because of the union. If you believe that... I've got some waterfront property in Florida for sale... Cheap! Just like Ron's words...
This is true. It's been in the works for quite awhile now. An across the board raise takes ALOT of leg work and time. Unfortunately for all of us it's off the table because of the union campaign. It HAS to be. That's the law.
sun

Russellville, KY

#21 Sep 27, 2012
FBS wrote:
Don"t believe a word Wayne Andersen says, hew doesn't have a clue!
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Wayne Andersen is a outstanding person always up front with you .wether you like it are not .he will stand face to face with you .you can't put him down he bounces right back in your face yes I am a Wayne Andersen FAn.

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