Is abortion wrong and why do you thin...

Since: Sep 12

New Albany, IN

#21 Oct 7, 2012
Against it wrote:
Will I tell someone else what I think they should do? Absolutely not. I am vocal about my opinion if the subject is brought up though. I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are yours. So I will tell you in a heartbeat I do not believe in it for any reason. You don't want the baby (which by the way is a baby and not just a blob- it's heart beats very early on, even before most women know they are pregnant and therefore is murder in my opinion) then I believe you should give someone else that blessing through adoption. People struggle everyday to try to experience this miracle and for this reason or that, it isn't possible. You don't want the baby, fine, but don't murder it when there are a lot of people out there who want children, but can't have their own.
As a mother who decided against abortion and opted for adoption I still have to disagree with you. It's a very big decision a parent has to make when they face themself with an unwanted pregnancy. It is the parents decision only and that should be respected by everyone. Even coming from that situation I know that I have no right to tell others what to do with their bodies or lives. As for the part where you mentioned all the hopeful prospective parents out there, have you thought of all the children that are already in the foster system? Earth is ridiculously overcrowded with plenty of great kids that could use good homes. No one seems to give two shits about them. I guess it's easier to care about a fetus than an actual child, right?

Since: Sep 12

New Albany, IN

#22 Oct 7, 2012
help me understand wrote:
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What are the statistics for rape babies? I've heard that there's a lot and I've heard that its below one percent.
How about molestation babies?
I've heard of more adults who were born abortion survivors than I have of pregnancies from the above horrible situations.
Is it a blob when the abortionist vacuums the baby's brain out while it's in the womb?
Getting pregnant is hard. It takes effort. It doesn't just happen. I'm pro choice in the regard that it's a choice to have sex, you do it, you deal with the consequences.
One of the funniest things to me is how many pro-abortion people are against the death penalty and anti-abortion folks are for the death penalty. That's completely off topic, but an interesting premise to me, especially since one side supports "choice" so much.
Getting pregnant is certainly not hard. Why do you even care about the statistics for rape/molestation babies? If a woman is raped she most certainly should not have to birth the child regardless of the statistics. Unless you're one of those that thinks a rape baby is a gift to the woman from god... "Hey lady, sorry about you getting raped and all. Here's a baby that you didn't have planned to always remever that special night." Sounds like a lovely gift.
help me understand

Georgetown, IN

#23 Oct 7, 2012
AOK wrote:
<quoted text>So your beef is having to pay for it. If you don't want to pay for one don't get one simple as that.

If you have never broken a condom you aren't doing it right. I've broken 100's and used 1000's. And birth control isnt foolproof.so if a person has taken all precautions to keep from geting knocked up there should be a back up plan in place.

Teaching young horny teenagers abstinence only is like talking to a brick wall. You're wasting your breath. Teens are going to have sex any way might as well arm and protect them from pregnancy and STD's. There is no point in them having to ruin their lives at 16.
No, I assume that ive never had a condom break because I've never bought one from a gas station bathroom (cheap) and I can read directions.

So, teaching abstinence with sex education is useless because teenagers dont listen? That's a ridiculous argument. Teenagers do stupid stuff, no denying that, we've all been there but saying that's the reason to not teach something (especially personal responsibility) isn't cool. I see your point though but still not the place of schools to dispense birth control.

Again, you don't want babies, don't had sex. Really simple solution.
help me understand

Georgetown, IN

#24 Oct 7, 2012
CyanCrane wrote:
<quoted text>Getting pregnant is certainly not hard. Why do you even care about the statistics for rape/molestation babies? If a woman is raped she most certainly should not have to birth the child regardless of the statistics. Unless you're one of those that thinks a rape baby is a gift to the woman from god... "Hey lady, sorry about you getting raped and all. Here's a baby that you didn't have planned to always remever that special night." Sounds like a lovely gift.
It is hard. It takes a decision, it's a choice. You dont just wake up pregnant one morning. Some couples try for years to have children and don't. This is one of the very few things in life that is easily preventable.

Never said that I think a rape baby is a gift. That's insane, rapists are the lowest of the low and I could not imagine the psychological torment of such a thing.The point that I was attempting to make and that I did a poor job of doing is that this is always cited as the key example for abortion yet I can't find any data on it. What I'm asking is for abortion advocates to do is to make me a believer. Show me the numbers because I can't find them, which leads me to believe that it doesn't happen. I am absolutely not trying to belittle or criticize anyone who has been victimized, just wanting evidence.
Senior Citizen

Savannah, GA

#25 Oct 8, 2012
haha wrote:
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Because the unborn child cannot defend itself. I don't want to control anyone. I just want to prevent the murder of an innocent unborn child.
And, do you also WANT To Pay More Taxes for Welfare Babies?

I have never met a CONservative who Wants to Pay Welfare Taxes to Feed, Clothe, House, Educate or Medicate a Welfare Baby.
donny danko

Portage, MI

#26 Oct 8, 2012
No we need abortions, the world is overpopulated enough as is. people need to quit bringing unwanted children into this world that they can't afford to take care of.
IMHO

New Albany, IN

#27 Oct 8, 2012
I think it should be regulated, but not banned completely. Abortions during the later two trimesters seem very wrong to me. You should have made up your mind long before then. If done sooner rather than later, the worst you are doing is preventing life. If a fetus is grown enough to feel, have a heartbeat, hear it's surroundings... then you have a baby, and that's not right.

We need to focus on the here and now, as well as the future. To be desperate enough for an abortion, a potential mother (possibly couple) knows this is not the right time in her life to be giving birth and raising a baby. Whatever mistakes she had made, she is still a human being with a lot of life to live, and she is alive right now. And parents who are not ready to raise a baby often end up ruining their child's life as well.

Is it morally right? Perhaps not. But everyone's morals are different, and religious beliefs should NOT dictate laws.

I will speak from experience because it's all I know. I have a family of religious extremists who actually believe you are not to spend time alone with, or KISS in any manner, a person you have feelings for until you are married. Now obviously, as an adult, I know relationships need time and experience to blossom into true love. And, honestly, my personal opinion is that you actually have to get PASSED the sex to know a persons true intentions.(Because desperate men will hold out for ages for good pussy.)*cough cough*

I am responsible, and I use protection. I waited until I was eighteen to have sex, and didn't have it regularly until 21. I can count the number of sex partners I've had on one hand... actually on three fingers. Each of which I waited at least 6 months to even begin to explore a physical relationship with. But if at any time I had become pregnant, my ENTIRE family would abandon me. Literally abandon, it's part of the religion. And without the love and support of a family, I would have been out on the street with a cold, unwashed child, possibly with a father that bailed on us.

I am an adult now, and while I'd likely put a child up for adoption at this point because I am barely scraping by while trying to find myself, I don't believe I would have an abortion.

Everyone always thinks the worst when they hear abortion. But there is a lot more thought put into it than you realize. A girl or couple who opts for abortion, would do so after hours upon hours upon weeks of serious thought, and would likely never have one again.

Do away with abortion, and we'll have a lot more suicides, incidents of abandoned newborns, and attempted home abortions. We'd suffer economically worse than we already are. Think about it.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#28 Oct 8, 2012
help me understand wrote:
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Again, you don't want babies, don't had sex. Really simple solution.
That statement makes about as much sense as standing in the yard at night and telling cats in heat not to breed. Get real!
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#29 Oct 8, 2012
CyanCrane wrote:
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As a mother who decided against abortion and opted for adoption I still have to disagree with you. It's a very big decision a parent has to make when they face themself with an unwanted pregnancy. It is the parents decision only and that should be respected by everyone. Even coming from that situation I know that I have no right to tell others what to do with their bodies or lives. As for the part where you mentioned all the hopeful prospective parents out there, have you thought of all the children that are already in the foster system? Earth is ridiculously overcrowded with plenty of great kids that could use good homes. No one seems to give two shits about them. I guess it's easier to care about a fetus than an actual child, right?
There are plenty of kids out there in the system awaiting adoption but prospective parents want to choose the little perfect healthy child of THEIR choice. Why not change the system to require the adoptive parents to take "next in line" regardless of health,race,creed,or whatever. If they choose to wait on the little blue eyed blond perfect baby,let them go to the end of the line and start over. All parents take chances when having children and we take what God sends us regardless. Why should some get to pick over the rest and take the best?
help me understand

Georgetown, IN

#30 Oct 8, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>That statement makes about as much sense as standing in the yard at night and telling cats in heat not to breed. Get real!
Are cats capable of making intelligent decisions? Do their brains work that way?

What I'm saying is no different than not smoking, eating fatty foods, etc, it's a personal decision.

I'm really kind of amazed that people actually think that having sex isn't a choice.
Blake

Georgetown, IN

#31 Oct 8, 2012
adoptee wrote:
Pro-choice, who are we to tell another person what they can and can't do...freedom
Pro-life. Because I don't think we should be telling someone else (the unborn) that their life isn't worth living. I call that freedom.

Go ask someone who is born of incest or rape if their life is worth living. That's ultimately the call you make when you say the unborn should be aborted. And you claim to cloak yourself in the mantle of personal liberty, while you terminate the life of another human being because you find their life unacceptable.

So much easier to stomp on the personal liberty of someone you can't really see or look in the eye. Dehumanize them and then it's so much easier to justify. The 20th century's fascists are proud of you for learning your lesson so well.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#32 Oct 8, 2012
help me understand wrote:
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Are cats capable of making intelligent decisions? Do their brains work that way?
What I'm saying is no different than not smoking, eating fatty foods, etc, it's a personal decision.
I'm really kind of amazed that people actually think that having sex isn't a choice.
I was making a point about trying to preach abstinence goes in one ear and out the other. They hear you but when: The right body,the right face,the right feeling,the right place situation arises, the kids are like the cats. Young people are having sex at a much earlier age than some think. Parents find that when they think their kids are ready for "the talk",they're a few years to late . When school systems want to have sex education,parents rise up and say that they will teach their own children about sex when the time comes and that teaching will give the kids the green light to be promiscuous. These parents that are so in the dark about what is going on out there sometime get a new name..........GRANDPARENTS!
Against it

United States

#33 Oct 8, 2012
As I said, it is my opinion and I am entitled to it as you are yours. And I specifically said I will not tell the next person what to do as it is ultimately their body, their baby, their choice. I never once discounted the numerous children already in the system. A fetus is a baby, a child, just as the ones in the system. Their heartbeats too. I believe all children, born or in utero, deserve a chance at life and being loved. Disagree or agree, I am only stating how I alone feel about it.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#34 Oct 8, 2012
Against it wrote:
As I said, it is my opinion and I am entitled to it as you are yours. And I specifically said I will not tell the next person what to do as it is ultimately their body, their baby, their choice. I never once discounted the numerous children already in the system. A fetus is a baby, a child, just as the ones in the system. Their heartbeats too. I believe all children, born or in utero, deserve a chance at life and being loved. Disagree or agree, I am only stating how I alone feel about it.
Good thoughts. People can respect your beliefs when you also respect their's. Our problem today is that many want to FORCE their beliefs on others by changing laws and legislating religious based morals and lifestyles. That's not the way this country works. We have soldiers in harms way overseas fighting ragheads that have the same mindset as some of the anti-choice zealots in this counrty.
REALLY

Wichita, KS

#35 Oct 8, 2012
AOK wrote:
A fetus isn't a baby its a blob.
Women have a right to do with their bodies as they see fit. If a woman is raped she should have to live with raising the rapists baby. If a father molestation his daughter she shouldn't have to raise a child she didn't plan on.
A women's uterus is her business and no one else's. If she wants to keep/abort it is her choice and right.
If you think a fetus is just a blob then please do not have any children. Or if you do have children I feel sorry for them.
FreeThinker

Elizabethtown, KY

#36 Oct 8, 2012
I'm pro-choice myself. It's none of my business if a woman/couple make that's choice. I would much rather someone have options then try to raise a child with no way to support it. What if a woman is told by her doctor that if she doesn't have one, she will die. Does that still make abortion wrong? Which life you you save? Wow, I certainly wouldn't want to be put in that situation. I can't fathom the emotional stress of that situation. Also, I think that a mandatory ultrasound before a procedure is wrong. Anyway, I don't judge anyone's decision in an abortion. There are always circumstances that we don't see from the outside.
Senior Citizen

Savannah, GA

#37 Oct 8, 2012
http://gopchoice.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/hot...

Hypocritical Republicans also support Abortion Choice, they just USE the issue to get votes.
CashNOW

La Grange, KY

#38 Oct 9, 2012
murder wrote:
You hit a pregnant woman resulting in the death of the baby, you get tried for murder. You abort and murder your baby, you're making a "choice"..what a crock of sh!t...

BOTH ARE MURDER!!!!!

Agreed!
not a rocket scientist

La Grange, KY

#40 Oct 9, 2012
Blabber blabber blabber! Excuses excuses excuses!

It's wrong, it takes a human life.

Unless the life of the mother is in danger it is just selfishness.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#41 Oct 9, 2012
not a rocket scientist wrote:
Blabber blabber blabber! Excuses excuses excuses!
It's wrong, it takes a human life.
Unless the life of the mother is in danger it is just selfishness.
Only your way but with your exceptions. Typical zealot thinking.

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