Special Education in Warren County Pu...

Special Education in Warren County Public Schools

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missysue

United States

#1 Oct 15, 2011
Just wondering if others have had to fight at the district level for basic services for kids with disabilities?
missysue

United States

#2 Oct 15, 2011
sorry, didn't mean to put it on there twice.
mother

United States

#3 Oct 15, 2011
Which school? My kids go to Lost River and we have had lots of issues with them.
:)

United States

#4 Oct 15, 2011
missysue wrote:
Just wondering if others have had to fight at the district level for basic services for kids with disabilities?
That's what's wrong with our society, everyone wants someone else to take care of their "special" child. While I feel blessed everyday for my child, it is the parents responsibility to take care of the child & meet it's needs, it is a struggle but the world is in the shape it is because everyone wants to cry out for help instead of getting off their butt & doing it themselves... I actually have heard Warren County has an excellent Special Ed program. They go above and beyond to accommodate these children, yet it's never enough is it....
curious

Bowling Green, KY

#5 Oct 15, 2011
mother wrote:
Which school? My kids go to Lost River and we have had lots of issues with them.
What kind of things did you feel they should have done that they didn't do?
BGKY

Bowling Green, KY

#6 Oct 15, 2011
Every school district has to follow federal laws that are in place to protect the students. There is a specific process in place, called Response to Intervention, due to these laws. Data and intervention must take place before services can be considered. The decision of whether a child qualifies or not is based upon law, not on personal opinion of someone. The district has to be able to prove, based on intervention and data, that a student qualifies for services.
Sure can be frustrating!! I hope everything works out the way you would like for it to.
girlie

Canton, OH

#7 Oct 15, 2011
[QUOTE who=":)"]<quoted text>
That's what's wrong with our society, everyone wants someone else to take care of their "special" child. While I feel blessed everyday for my child, it is the parents responsibility to take care of the child & meet it's needs, it is a struggle but the world is in the shape it is because everyone wants to cry out for help instead of getting off their butt & doing it themselves... I actually have heard Warren County has an excellent Special Ed program. They go above and beyond to accommodate these children, yet it's never enough is it....[/QUOTE]

So your kids don't go to public schools?
not a rocket scientist

Bowling Green, KY

#8 Oct 15, 2011
What did you expect them to do that they didn't do?
mother

United States

#9 Oct 16, 2011
Be educated about my child's specific disorder to enable them to treat and communicate with him the proper way. Oh and not to be snooty b!tches every time I ask them how he is progressing. BTW,':)' yes, there are lazy parents out there but I have fought long and hard for my child to be where he is now and that took a team of specialists AND myself working with him. If you weren't such an idiot, you would know that children with special needs need all the special/extra/etc help thay can possibly get as frequently as possible in order to progress. But thanks so much for making it sound like us parents with special needs kids are lazy bc we expect the school system to actually abide by the programs they offer! Oh and just FYI when it comes to kids that need any kind of therapy sessions, whether it be speech or anything else, they do a WHOLE LOT better when working with a proffesional than they do with an untrained parent doing it with them at home. But wait, according to you, if a kid needs speech, I shouldn't take him to a professional bc then I would be lazy!!
Others

Lubbock, TX

#10 Oct 16, 2011
My friend has moved twice to get into the best district for her son. She is at briarwood now and they are fabulous.
mother

United States

#11 Oct 16, 2011
Yes, being in a different district is definitely something we are working towards. My best friends son goes to Briarwood and I see that they are awesome!
not a rocket scientist

Bowling Green, KY

#12 Oct 16, 2011
(Where did my post go?? Weird...)

So, you basically just want them to do the job they are being paid to do. That is certainly not asking too much. Isn't that what No Child Left Behind is all about? Making sure that NO child gets left behind? That includes kids like yours, the disabled, handicap, poor, abused, even the ones who come here as teens and can't speak a lick of English. If I were you I'd go to the principal, the school board, the super intendent, heck, call the mayors office if you have to. You do not deserve attitude just for asking how your child is progressing.
not a rocket scientist

Bowling Green, KY

#13 Oct 16, 2011
"Under NCLB, each state sets its own benchmark for purposes of demonstrating that it has achieved "adequate yearly progress." This is part of a larger trend in education that focuses on the collection of data and the analysis of that data in relation to student learning. Adequate yearly progress is measured over-all for each school as well as disaggregated, or reported separately, for students from major ethnic and racial groups, economically disadvantaged students, students with disabilities, and students with limited English proficiency. No Child Left Behind clearly provides that states must raise their target goals over time and that the federal government expects increasing numbers of students to meet them. More important, states are to evaluate all students, and each subgroup is to make adequate yearly progress or the school fails in its entirety. Schools that do not consistently meet these requirements may eventually have to reorganize and/or surrender to state control. The requirements of NCLB, however, do not apply to private schools or to students who are home-schooled."

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/no-child-left-be...
missysue

United States

#14 Oct 18, 2011
[QUOTE who=":)"]<quoted text>
That's what's wrong with our society, everyone wants someone else to take care of their "special" child. While I feel blessed everyday for my child, it is the parents responsibility to take care of the child & meet it's needs, it is a struggle but the world is in the shape it is because everyone wants to cry out for help instead of getting off their butt & doing it themselves... I actually have heard Warren County has an excellent Special Ed program. They go above and beyond to accommodate these children, yet it's never enough is it....[/QUOTE]

What your ignorant self obviously doesn't realize that the state is REQUIRED to find children with disabilities and provide "appropriate" services for them. My child was in First Steps for a year and half and was told that if I opted out of preschool that I would have to provide PROOF that I was providing services for my child. First Steps sent an OT and Speech path for 1 hour/week, and I worked my butt off doing the HOMEWORK thy left for me every week. My son had autism. The best research based therapy for kids with autism is ABA therapy. I researched it, and consulted with people and set up our own home program. My son has made HUGE gains because of his home program NOT the school. They would do no ABA, lied and said they had never heard of the assessments I was asking for, and tried to put my son in group speech though he was in the 1st percentile for speech. After my oldest son entered kindergarten, we began to notice social deficits, a stutter and other autism traits. I had to raise CAIN to get the school to eval him even after he had been diagnosed on the spectrum by Dr. Heather Willis. So their "RTI" wasa 1-5 scale measuring "Uses appropriate behaviors with peers." 4, 5 4, 5 day after day after day. So I asked what was the intervention being used? No answer. Rosponse to INTERVENTION. Who is taking the data? The class aide!!! Who had never taken a course in child development or anything. What a joke. We moved to the city schools, and they have been amazing. I am STILL fiding out about things the staff at Alvaton lied to me about.
missysue

United States

#15 Oct 18, 2011
[QUOTE who=":)"]<quoted text>
That's what's wrong with our society, everyone wants someone else to take care of their "special" child. While I feel blessed everyday for my child, it is the parents responsibility to take care of the child & meet it's needs, it is a struggle but the world is in the shape it is because everyone wants to cry out for help instead of getting off their butt & doing it themselves... I actually have heard Warren County has an excellent Special Ed program. They go above and beyond to accommodate these children, yet it's never enough is it....[/QUOTE]

Also, check out the cost of providing the care for a child with autism... and I have TWO! I expect nothing more than the schools to follow the law. They dance around it in every way poosible. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/the-...
missysue

United States

#16 Oct 18, 2011
BGKY wrote:
Every school district has to follow federal laws that are in place to protect the students. There is a specific process in place, called Response to Intervention, due to these laws. Data and intervention must take place before services can be considered. The decision of whether a child qualifies or not is based upon law, not on personal opinion of someone. The district has to be able to prove, based on intervention and data, that a student qualifies for services.
Sure can be frustrating!! I hope everything works out the way you would like for it to.
What about when they deliberately set up RTI goals that ensure your child will never get services (ei. write joke goals, have untrained aides take data, and never use a real intervention). Data isn't objective when you are taking data on random untrained people's opinion. Btw, his psychologist set a 6 page report TO THE SCHOOL outlining her recommendations for education and social interventions in school. They gave every reason in the book why her recommendations were invalid, and why they disagreed. They should have used an actual intervention and written specific objectives under those goals and then taken data on his RESPONSE TO INTERVENTION.
Seriously

Bowling Green, KY

#17 Oct 28, 2011
Get a someone that is well versed in SpED laws and your childs disabilities to go with you and help you out. It does help. I know when I lived in MA they had ppl that would help you out and give you information. Goodluck!
c.c.

Washington, DC

#18 Oct 28, 2011
missysue wrote:
<quoted text>What about when they deliberately set up RTI goals that ensure your child will never get services (ei. write joke goals, have untrained aides take data, and never use a real intervention). Data isn't objective when you are taking data on random untrained people's opinion. Btw, his psychologist set a 6 page report TO THE SCHOOL outlining her recommendations for education and social interventions in school. They gave every reason in the book why her recommendations were invalid, and why they disagreed. They should have used an actual intervention and written specific objectives under those goals and then taken data on his RESPONSE TO INTERVENTION.
My son had a packet on his progress from a pychiologist, and the school had a lot of things to blame it on other than no help from the school.
jus wondering

Mayfield, KY

#19 Oct 28, 2011
[QUOTE who=":)"]<quoted text>That's what's wrong with our society, everyone wants someone else to take care of their "special" child. While I feel blessed everyday for my child, it is the parents responsibility to take care of the child & meet it's needs, it is a struggle but the world is in the shape it is because everyone wants to cry out for help instead of getting off their butt & doing it themselves... I actually have heard Warren County has an excellent Special Ed program. They go above and beyond to accommodate these children, yet it's never enough is it....[/QUOTE]
U should be thankful. I am as well for my 2 healthy kids, however try walking in someone's shoes who isn't so lucky. It's easy to sit here & say they need to get off their butts. Do you realize all that goes into caring for a child with special needs? I have a niece with special needs. It is non stop dealing with schools. Next people are gonna complain because the parents don't care enough to do anything.
Sixpac

Bowling Green, KY

#20 Oct 28, 2011
Briarwood IS a part of Warren County Schools. The prior messages made it sound like it was not.

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