The REAL Brandon Bradshaw
Good Grief

New Albany, IN

#84 Mar 31, 2013
Shooter wrote:
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On what "facts" do you base that statement? That's a very strong statement to make with no supporting information of measure.
If you have evidence, I would respectfully like to hear it. If that was a statement based on second hand information or a liking to the philosophy of another poster, then you are a perpetuator of the rumor mill, and are a part of the problem, not the solution. That's one of the most dangerous kinds of loudmouths. I'll await your response.
Dangerous? LOL. Shooter, don't sweat this dude. Only thing he shoots off is his mouth. Mouth in fifth gear, brain in neutral. Sharp tongue, dull mind. Diarrhea of the mouth, constipation of the brain. I think you get the picture.
Hold on a Sec

Hillview, KY

#85 Mar 31, 2013
Shooter wrote:
<quoted text>
On what "facts" do you base that statement? That's a very strong statement to make with no supporting information of measure.
If you have evidence, I would respectfully like to hear it. If that was a statement based on second hand information or a liking to the philosophy of another poster, then you are a perpetuator of the rumor mill, and are a part of the problem, not the solution. That's one of the most dangerous kinds of loudmouths. I'll await your response.
It may be a while before he can respond. His mom is probably coming downstairs for his weekly bed sheet change and he has to get up in order for her to do that.
citizen cane

Glasgow, KY

#86 Mar 31, 2013
only know what i have read but in my younger days if i came out of my truck on someone i was ready to whip a@@ or get whipped thats the way it worked kinda odd that someone from sheriff office couldnt handle the matter without killing someone what kind of training does this person have
Good Grief

New Albany, IN

#87 Mar 31, 2013
citizen cane wrote:
only know what i have read but in my younger days if i came out of my truck on someone i was ready to whip a@@ or get whipped thats the way it worked kinda odd that someone from sheriff office couldnt handle the matter without killing someone what kind of training does this person have
He was a bailiff. Two weeks training. Part of that training was when and how to use lethal force. Someone pulled a gun on him. He responded the way he was trained and possibly saved his own life.
nothing.

United States

#88 Mar 31, 2013
Bradshaw is not a good person like everyone says he is! Yeah he might of did good things. But someone like him cannot change over night. It was brads haws fault that he got shot! He shouldn't of pull his gun he had out on brown. That was uncalled for! Brown was just going to talk to him and see what his deal was.
Question

Russell Springs, KY

#89 Mar 31, 2013
[QUOTE who="nothing. "]Bradshaw is not a good person like everyone says he is! Yeah he might of did good things. But someone like him cannot change over night. It was brads haws fault that he got shot! He shouldn't of pull his gun he had out on brown. That was uncalled for! Brown was just going to talk to him and see what his deal was.[/QUOTE]
If Brown was simply going to talk why didn't he leave his loaded weapon in his vehicle?!? For fear he may encounter someone else with a weapon?!? If that was his fear why approach any way?!? Why not call police who have legal authority to stop, and approach with weapons?!? If you come to my home, approaching me about anything as a stranger, should I forget the fact that I have a weapon or does the law allow me to pull my weapon on you?!? His personal vehicle acts as personal property just as his home. I don't understand why you people cannot grasp the concept that BB was within every legal right to brandish a fire arm?!? What rights if any do you people believe Brandon Bradshaw had at the moment brown stopped his personal vehicle and got out approaching Bradshaw?!? Forget the back story of road rage and rely ONLY on what occurred from the moment brown stopped his vehicle with Bradshaw in tow...
Bombardier

New Albany, IN

#91 Mar 31, 2013
Question wrote:
<quoted text>
If Brown was simply going to talk why didn't he leave his loaded weapon in his vehicle?!? For fear he may encounter someone else with a weapon?!? If that was his fear why approach any way?!? Why not call police who have legal authority to stop, and approach with weapons?!? If you come to my home, approaching me about anything as a stranger, should I forget the fact that I have a weapon or does the law allow me to pull my weapon on you?!? His personal vehicle acts as personal property just as his home. I don't understand why you people cannot grasp the concept that BB was within every legal right to brandish a fire arm?!? What rights if any do you people believe Brandon Bradshaw had at the moment brown stopped his personal vehicle and got out approaching Bradshaw?!? Forget the back story of road rage and rely ONLY on what occurred from the moment brown stopped his vehicle with Bradshaw in tow...
The evidence did not show that Brown acted in such a way that justified Bradshaw to use lethal force (draw a weapon). Bradshaw followed Brown after they had separated. That showed Bradshaw was not in fear of Brown at that time. Bradshaw tried to get out of his vehicle to meet Brown face to face, kick his ass, whatever.
That showed Brandon wasn't afraid of Brown at that time either.

When Brown shut the door, it appears Bradshaw got madder, and pulled the gun out of the door pocket. Why would shutting a door put you in fear for your life? It wouldn't. It pissed him off. You know the rest.

In short, Bradshaw had to show reasonable fear of bodily injury or death in order to respond with lethal force. His actions prior to pulling the weapon did not indicate a man in fear for his life.

We can't have Brandon's words to go on obviously, so the actions are all the jury has to go by. If Brown had at anytime shown a weapon before Bradshaw, I don't think it would be self defense. But it wouldn't rise to murder either. Reckless homicide, yes.

If people saw Brown pull a previously CONCEALED weapon and fire immediately, and an eyewitness saw Bradshaw draw first, then its self defense.

Both men made mistakes. Yes, it looks like only one person paid for it. I see very clearly why alot of people are angry.
FBI

Glasgow, KY

#92 Mar 31, 2013
Bombardier wrote:
<quoted text>The evidence did not show that Brown acted in such a way that justified Bradshaw to use lethal force (draw a weapon). Bradshaw followed Brown after they had separated. That showed Bradshaw was not in fear of Brown at that time. Bradshaw tried to get out of his vehicle to meet Brown face to face, kick his ass, whatever.
That showed Brandon wasn't afraid of Brown at that time either.

When Brown shut the door, it appears Bradshaw got madder, and pulled the gun out of the door pocket. Why would shutting a door put you in fear for your life? It wouldn't. It pissed him off. You know the rest.

In short, Bradshaw had to show reasonable fear of bodily injury or death in order to respond with lethal force. His actions prior to pulling the weapon did not indicate a man in fear for his life.

We can't have Brandon's words to go on obviously, so the actions are all the jury has to go by. If Brown had at anytime shown a weapon before Bradshaw, I don't think it would be self defense. But it wouldn't rise to murder either. Reckless homicide, yes.

If people saw Brown pull a previously CONCEALED weapon and fire immediately, and an eyewitness saw Bradshaw draw first, then its self defense.

Both men made mistakes. Yes, it looks like only one person paid for it. I see very clearly why alot of people are angry.
Well said!!!!!!!
below

Sykesville, MD

#93 Mar 31, 2013
Chick Papa wrote:
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A little herbal weed doesn't make you a killer
That is why it was not mentioned at the press conference. No relevance.
Shooter

Elyria, OH

#94 Apr 1, 2013
Question wrote:
[QUOTE who="nothing. "]Bradshaw is not a good person like everyone says he is! Yeah he might of did good things. But someone like him cannot change over night. It was brads haws fault that he got shot! He shouldn't of pull his gun he had out on brown. That was uncalled for! Brown was just going to talk to him and see what his deal was. "


If Brown was simply going to talk why didn't he leave his loaded weapon in his vehicle?!? For fear he may encounter someone else with a weapon?!? If that was his fear why approach any way?!? Why not call police who have legal authority to stop, and approach with weapons?!? If you come to my home, approaching me about anything as a stranger, should I forget the fact that I have a weapon or does the law allow me to pull my weapon on you?!? His personal vehicle acts as personal property just as his home. I don't understand why you people cannot grasp the concept that BB was within every legal right to brandish a fire arm?!? What rights if any do you people believe Brandon Bradshaw had at the moment brown stopped his personal vehicle and got out approaching Bradshaw?!? Forget the back story of road rage and rely ONLY on what occurred from the moment brown stopped his vehicle with Bradshaw in tow...
Your post is exactly why "we" all ought to shut our mouths. The part about your post that sticks out in my mind is, it's mostly questions. The Grand Jury heard answers. An indictment or no true bill was "their" job, not ours, based on evidence, not rumors or suppositions. If you weren't actually there as a participant or a witness, you have absolutely nothing valid to offer, other than personal opinions or desires. It's fine to post those opinions - that's what this forum is about. But don't post an opinion and represent it as "evidence", or have an opinion/desired outcome other than judicial, and call it a miscarriage of justice. It simply means the justice system didn't find it to be the way you had hoped. And FYI- you NEVER "forget the back story", and his vehicle is NOT the same as his home (constitutionally speaking). Have a nice day.
Question

Russell Springs, KY

#95 Apr 1, 2013
Shooter wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post is exactly why "we" all ought to shut our mouths. The part about your post that sticks out in my mind is, it's mostly questions. The Grand Jury heard answers. An indictment or no true bill was "their" job, not ours, based on evidence, not rumors or suppositions. If you weren't actually there as a participant or a witness, you have absolutely nothing valid to offer, other than personal opinions or desires. It's fine to post those opinions - that's what this forum is about. But don't post an opinion and represent it as "evidence", or have an opinion/desired outcome other than judicial, and call it a miscarriage of justice. It simply means the justice system didn't find it to be the way you had hoped. And FYI- you NEVER "forget the back story", and his vehicle is NOT the same as his home (constitutionally speaking). Have a nice day.
First of all I have "no desires" to speak of. I have no foreknowledge of either party. Zilch. There is no that " I had hoped." In fact only have taken an interest in the case very recently. In understanding that the grand jury process is shrouded in secrecy, no one has any way of knowing what if anything solid was produced to build a manslaughter or murder case against the shooter. That is very unsettling.
A grand jury is not polled nor sampled for any biases AT ALL! We have no way of knowing who they were and if they have connections to either person. However if the shooter was employed as a bailiff there is a great likelihood that the jurors had seen and were aware of the bailiff. To my knowledge there was neither a special called grand jury.
I in no way was attempting to imply constitutional castle doctrines apply to a personal vehicle. I wanted readers to see that there are situations in which self defense is not justified by law. Mr. Brown has been found neither not guilty, nor innocent , nor not to have been acting in self defense. What has ONLY happened is that whatever charge be it murder or otherwise that the prosecutor put before the juror was not picked up for prosecutor by that grand jury at this time.
"Miscarriage of justice?!?" Again you in your supposition because I never said that in any form. Uninformed listeners are the easy targets. I don't think any person in BG should be uniformed about their rights! This issue isn't only about the victim and the accused it is about all citizens of BG.
yes

United States

#96 Apr 2, 2013
Since its been such a big deal Feds putting brown and family in a nice house in a unknown location and letting him retire early not only got out of it but got rewarded
yu

United States

#97 Apr 2, 2013
Gy
Get a Clue

New Albany, IN

#98 Apr 2, 2013
yes wrote:
Since its been such a big deal Feds putting brown and family in a nice house in a unknown location and letting him retire early not only got out of it but got rewarded
ROFLMAO.
everlast

Bowling Green, KY

#99 Apr 2, 2013
Enough Already wrote:
Justice for Brandon!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =2lE4nhxYhj8XX
I've seen a rich man beg
I've seen a good man sin
I've seen a tough man cry
I've seen a loser win
And a sad man grin
I heard an honest man lie
I've seen the good side of bad
And the down side of up
And everything between
I licked the silver spoon
Drank from the golden cup
Smoked the finest green
I stroked the fattest dimes at least a couple of times
Before I broke their heart
You know where it ends
Yo, it usually depends on where you start

I knew this kid named Max
He used to get fat stacks out on the corner with drugs
He liked to hang out late at night
Liked to get shit faced
And keep pace with thugs
Until late one night there was a big gun fight
Max lost his head
He pulled out his chrome .45
Talked some shit
And wound up dead
Now his wife and his kids are caught in the midst of all of his pain
You know it crumbles that way
At least that's what they say when you play the game

God forbid you ever had to wake up to hear the news
'Cause then you really might know what it's like to have to lose
Then you really might know what it's like

To have to lose...
Kal-El

Louisville, KY

#100 Apr 2, 2013
below wrote:
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That is why it was not mentioned at the press conference. No relevance.
. Maybe the reason they did not mention it , is because there is still an ongoing investigation into who gave Brandon the steroids that sent him into a roid rage.
Shooter

United States

#101 Apr 2, 2013
Question wrote:
<quoted text>First of all I have "no desires" to speak of. I have no foreknowledge of either party. Zilch. There is no that " I had hoped." In fact only have taken an interest in the case very recently. In understanding that the grand jury process is shrouded in secrecy, no one has any way of knowing what if anything solid was produced to build a manslaughter or murder case against the shooter. That is very unsettling.
A grand jury is not polled nor sampled for any biases AT ALL! We have no way of knowing who they were and if they have connections to either person. However if the shooter was employed as a bailiff there is a great likelihood that the jurors had seen and were aware of the bailiff. To my knowledge there was neither a special called grand jury.
I in no way was attempting to imply constitutional castle doctrines apply to a personal vehicle. I wanted readers to see that there are situations in which self defense is not justified by law. Mr. Brown has been found neither not guilty, nor innocent , nor not to have been acting in self defense. What has ONLY happened is that whatever charge be it murder or otherwise that the prosecutor put before the juror was not picked up for prosecutor by that grand jury at this time.
"Miscarriage of justice?!?" Again you in your supposition because I never said that in any form. Uninformed listeners are the easy targets. I don't think any person in BG should be uniformed about their rights! This issue isn't only about the victim and the accused it is about all citizens of BG.
Yeah, I don't have time to answer all of that. But I saw your response. Thanks.
not true

Bowling Green, KY

#102 Apr 18, 2013
Yes yes I do wrote:
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Also someone contacted the BB page to confirm that her friend was alive bc she received Brandon's lungs. If there was something in Brandon's system.. they couldn't have used the organs.. could they?
A friend of mine had a liver transplant; as soon as someone comes in to the hospital that is a donor; they keep them on the vent until the organs are harvested. AND the people to get the organs are called and the tests start. I do know in this particular case; the man that was waiting for the lungs,could not get them because the donors lungs were in very bad shape. BUT my friend knows where his liver came from!
not true

Bowling Green, KY

#103 Apr 18, 2013
And BTW..The reason the lungs couldn't be used is alegdly the guy was a meth smoker.I cant elaborate on the situation; but desperate times call for desperate measures.I remember they were also telling my friend that there could also be issues with the liver as well due to the guys previous drug use; but my friend had liver cancer and was desperate to live..and that's a fact..ALOT of people die waiting for donors*
FACTS

Morgantown, KY

#104 Nov 18, 2014
shame

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