heard James Caswell's OUT

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someyoungguy

Bowie, TX

#1 Sep 29, 2012
just what i heard dnt knw 4 sure
Rabbitmiester

United States

#2 Sep 29, 2012
Of the closet?
How

Wichita Falls, TX

#3 Sep 29, 2012
How on earth could someone with all the charges James Caswell had against him, and a sentence of 99 years, already be out after only 10 years?!?!??!! If in fact this is true, our justice system is more screwed up than I ever imagined. If he is out, it will be no time at all before him and Marta Buck are back cooking meth again!
Fastest Girl In Town

Wichita Falls, TX

#4 Sep 29, 2012
Did it used to be Marta Hopkins?
Bruce

Wichita Falls, TX

#5 Sep 30, 2012
How wrote:
How on earth could someone with all the charges James Caswell had against him, and a sentence of 99 years, already be out after only 10 years?!?!??!! If in fact this is true, our justice system is more screwed up than I ever imagined. If he is out, it will be no time at all before him and Marta Buck are back cooking meth again!
I think they meant the city manager. But the potential replacement might not be any better. He started the Bowie electric screw the citizens program. Bert
brittany

United States

#6 Sep 30, 2012
Bruce wrote:
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I think they meant the city manager. But the potential replacement might not be any better. He started the Bowie electric screw the citizens program. Bert
james Caswell is who this topic is about. Not James Cantwell. Huge difference.
How

Wichita Falls, TX

#7 Sep 30, 2012
Bruce wrote:
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I think they meant the city manager. But the potential replacement might not be any better. He started the Bowie electric screw the citizens program. Bert
James Caswell and his girlfriend Marta Buck were this towns biggest meth cookers, and dealers. Were arrested time, after time, after time, with meth labs. Finally arrested them and held them with no bail, awaiting trial. James was sentenced to 99 years, and that was 10 years ago. What is the point in a jury handing down the maximum sentence if they get out in a fraction of the time. They will be back cooking and dealing in no time. If James is truly out, they have probably already started.
Clean and Sober

Irving, TX

#8 Sep 30, 2012
10 years is a long time to contemplate the results of addiction. Hopefully James will keep his head out of his fat a$$ and remain clean and sober. Addiction is an ugly disease. In the meantime you well wishers will have to wait on the rail and if he does happen to choose incarceration over sobriety you all can revel in his misery. In the meantime you might want to check the origin of your hate.
yuper

United States

#9 Oct 1, 2012
Yup he is out. Seen hum at Walmart buying cold medicine. Looked to be sick.
old n tired

Wichita Falls, TX

#10 Oct 1, 2012
Clean and Sober wrote:
10 years is a long time to contemplate the results of addiction. Hopefully James will keep his head out of his fat a$$ and remain clean and sober. Addiction is an ugly disease. In the meantime you well wishers will have to wait on the rail and if he does happen to choose incarceration over sobriety you all can revel in his misery. In the meantime you might want to check the origin of your hate.
Addiction is illness, but it is by choice that the addict becomes afflicted. Others hate it because it's very contagious and those striken with it, will sadly go out of their way to infect others. It's an injustice to every clean person too, that an addict is allowed in any way, to affect the happiness and safety of others. Don't blame people for not wanting to watch this or any other crime go on openly.

Kudos to the ones with enough guts to get off the crap, I really admire those folks, but don't disparage "clean" people for wanting the law to be upheld and for wanting to see justice done. Addicts choose to put themselves in that place (outside society and the law), and no one else can do it to them, so there's no where else to assign the blame or point the finger but straight at the user. Just one more cop out.
Clean and Sober

Dallas, TX

#11 Oct 1, 2012
I gotta respond to the tired old idiot. Whereas I do support the disease model its not contagious nor is it an infection. As an addict in recovery I can honestly say that nobody infected me or gave me this ism. Its something I feel like I was born with. Im not going to rationalize my behavior but instead I will be responsible for my past actions and accept full responsibility for the harm I have caused others as well as the actions I took in my recovery process.

I dont know what in my statement you took to represent that I am trying to belittle "clean" people or anyone for wanting laws enforced. You want justice done I take it and thats fine. This person spent 10 years plus in prison and the parole board saw fit for him to be released. Im thinkin 10 years is a long time, not sure what you consider justice. Fact is, if he pisses dirty he is going straight back to TDC and he may who knows. What im saying is that those who get joy from other peoples misery suffer from a different kind of disease of which there may be no cure. I see you there with your hammer and nails, let the man piss dirty before you nail him to the cross, until then he could use your prayers.
old n tired

Wichita Falls, TX

#12 Oct 1, 2012
"In the meantime you might want to check the origin of your hate."

Merely responding to your poorly thought out and unjustifiably defensive statement...When someone makes meth (to sell), they have a knowing exert a very negative outcome on the community. Their intention is to make themselves a living supplying others (infecting). Alot of them are kids - with families that get drug down with them.

Call me whatever you want, but you're defending your choices wrongly - even if you have a genetic addiction problem, you made a conscious decision to use and someone facilitated your choice.

I consider a dealer or manufacturer to be "infectious" - and while 10 years might be a long time, he was given a life sentence. That's a pretty lucky break and we will all be watching to see if it was a good choice or not. It's just one of the consequences of his choices.

I have worked in the drug testing field, and yes, he'll go back, but only if he gets caught and you and I both know all the ways to fudge tests. Until we know that's he sincere, people have a right to be skepitcal - they'd be stupid not to be. We all know that rehab is an iffy prospect at best.

Your feathers' got ruffled so easily, sort of makes me wonder how solid your recovery is and if you shouldn't be exploring where that reaction comes from yourself.
old n tired

Wichita Falls, TX

#13 Oct 1, 2012
And for the record, it's not joy, it's really more like fear, exasperation, disgust.

We've all been here before and suffered thru the slow, painful process of waiting/trying to get another dealer away.
Clean and Sober

Dallas, TX

#14 Oct 1, 2012
I have no problem with locking people up that manufacture drugs whether or not they are addicts or not. They belong in prison period. Im not defending the drug dealer so do not try to put words like that in my mouth.

Yea there are ways for parolees to beat the piss test from time to time but do you really think this guy is capable of beating the test if he is using. I seriously doubt it. Not many (if any) REAL drug addicts can beat the piss test consistently for any period of time. The disease always catches up with us one way or another. An seriously, this guy got busted 3 times before he got to court. Do you really think he is capable of pulling the wool over a parole officers eyes?

Yea his chances of recovery are small, very small in fact.%5 maybe?%1 maybe who knows. But if he or anyone else like him is trying to recover from this usually fatal disease do you think they really need a coalition of virtual vigilance antagonizing them and reveling in the failure of their struggle. I think not.

Oh yes and thanks for your concern for my recovery.
Its all good today :)
old n tired

Wichita Falls, TX

#15 Oct 1, 2012
I can understand your empathy for another addict honestly, but to the non using community, his being back here constitutes a risk and people here are rightfully concerned for their kids and famiy members, friends etc.

There's no "virtual vigilance" going on - it's just that probably no one expected to see him here again and not in only 10 years, given his sentence. This is a small town and privacy is pretty much a myth anyhow, but most people take that into consideration with those debatable decisions that happen in life.

Who knows, sometimes having people doubt you is just the impetus you need to keep you going - so here's to some personal accountability.
Clean and Sober

Dallas, TX

#16 Oct 1, 2012
I "AM" a part of the "NON USING" community thank you very much and I am pretty sure James is not going to come to my house and make me do drugs. Nobody ever made me do drugs.

I would drink to "personal accountability" but in this case you can have one on me :)
Not victimless

Wichita Falls, TX

#17 Oct 2, 2012
No, but did someone make you drugs?

"Within days of moving in this past summer, Beth Hankins, an ER nurse, started experiencing breathing problems. Then Jonathan got migraine-like headaches and nosebleeds. By the third week, their 2-year-old son, Ezra, developed mouth sores."..."Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske, head of the president's Office of National Drug Control Policy, testified that "U.S. meth lab seizure has more than doubled between 2007 and 2010, and these labs pose a major threat to public safety and the environment."....."W ith or without disclosure laws, Mazzuca believes scores of home buyers are at risk because only one in 10 meth labs are busted"

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mystery-i...

"before you buy or rent a house:
•Check the DEA's National Clandestine Laboratory Register.
•Talk to the property's neighbors.
•Contact the local health department and police for past issues.
•Buy a kit to test for chemicals."

Check for KNOWN drug houses
example/Bowie

http://www.homefacts.com/methlabs/Texas/Monta...
old n tired

Wichita Falls, TX

#18 Oct 2, 2012
CnS - I don't drink, but whatever it takes for you to make yourself feel better.
Clean and Sober

Dallas, TX

#19 Oct 2, 2012
old n tired wrote:
And for the record, it's not joy, it's really more like fear, exasperation, disgust.
We've all been here before and suffered thru the slow, painful process of waiting/trying to get another dealer away.


That was in jest, I do not drink either but you sound like you could use one.

As for your fear, exasperation and disgust i stand corrected there is a treatment for that, one word "Alanon" they meet weekly.

ALANON
old n tired

Wichita Falls, TX

#20 Oct 4, 2012
ALANON? Not so much. Lived around here too long to believe in anything but hard work on the addict's part. Anything else is wasted time.

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