Tinley Park PAWS struggles with 49 do...

Tinley Park PAWS struggles with 49 dogs taken from Peotone barn

There are 43 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Mar 11, 2008, titled Tinley Park PAWS struggles with 49 dogs taken from Peotone barn. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Life at the Tinley Park animal shelter has not been the same since Cook County sheriff's deputies raided a suspected puppy mill in Peotone early this month.

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The Unit

United States

#1 Mar 11, 2008
How can we help?
Anon

Mokena, IL

#3 Mar 11, 2008
That PAWS is corrupt. Many of my friends tried to adopt from them in past years. They would submit the adoption papers and be told to come back tommorow. When they came back the dog would be gone. Always the same story of mixed up paper work.
sinking sand

Chicago, IL

#4 Mar 11, 2008
April 16? So the poor dogs, the shelter, and all the eager adopters have to twiddle their thumbs till then? Shame on whoever is allowing this case to fester for more than a month more.
Beefy

Bolingbrook, IL

#5 Mar 12, 2008
So, what laws were broken? Why did they take the dogs? Are they a government agency? These animal organizations are seriously overstepping their bounds.
politwriter

Arlington Heights, IL

#6 Mar 12, 2008
Beefy wrote:
So, what laws were broken? Why did they take the dogs? Are they a government agency? These animal organizations are seriously overstepping their bounds.
You're right. There are an awful lot of petty little martinets running the dog and cat rescue groups. Just look at the Humane Society in Boulder. It just got a little old lady a $1000 citation for dying her poodle pink with beet juice to support the breast cancer awareness march.
Love animals

AOL

#7 Mar 12, 2008
politwriter wrote:
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You're right. There are an awful lot of petty little martinets running the dog and cat rescue groups. Just look at the Humane Society in Boulder. It just got a little old lady a $1000 citation for dying her poodle pink with beet juice to support the breast cancer awareness march.
Now that is a joke! Keeping 50 dogs in an old barn in cages with no heat and keeping them unclean is a crime or should be anyhow
Help the dogs

United States

#8 Mar 12, 2008
They need to make sure they never go back to that woman. There is no way she can say she was taking care of them properly. She was trying to make money off of them and putting in as little effort as possible. I hope anyone that can help is working on that. And make sure she can't get her hands on any more and do it all over again. SPAY AND NEUTER FOLKS!!
Liz

Willow Springs, IL

#9 Mar 12, 2008
Beefy wrote:
So, what laws were broken? Why did they take the dogs? Are they a government agency? These animal organizations are seriously overstepping their bounds.
I volunteer for PAWS. THEY have no legal authority to take an animal without the police. THEY did not do anything. The police and animal cruelty were investigating in Peotone, found the dogs, and then called PAWS to take them. Paws is a no-kill shelter and does not turn away dogs. They are not corrupt, but only adopt (like everyone else) when you have gone through the process--which is more than filling out a form. You meet the animal, interview and take the time to consider if this animal is a good fit. Before an animal is released they go to a place with PAWS to judge their temperment, if they are high/low active animals, friendliness with kids etc... they do a very complete exam of the animal.

Places like this need more support and its shame people always look to blame instead of help.
protection

San Pablo, CA

#10 Mar 12, 2008
Anon wrote:
That PAWS is corrupt. Many of my friends tried to adopt from them in past years. They would submit the adoption papers and be told to come back tommorow. When they came back the dog would be gone. Always the same story of mixed up paper work.
I've adopted from Paws 3 times and a dog from Paws that went to rescue I adopted as well. I had no problems. My friend also adopted her purebred basset from Paws.
protection

San Pablo, CA

#11 Mar 12, 2008
politwriter wrote:
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You're right. There are an awful lot of petty little martinets running the dog and cat rescue groups. Just look at the Humane Society in Boulder. It just got a little old lady a $1000 citation for dying her poodle pink with beet juice to support the breast cancer awareness march.
no they save the animals from abuse and cruelty. why would you dye your dog? It's not a jacket. Dye your own hair.

I support shelters and rescue groups and have adopted dogs and cats from them all my life.

You are ignorant and misinformed.
Dog Lover

Chicago, IL

#12 Mar 12, 2008
So they're saying it's not a crime to breed dogs without being a licensed breeder and treat them this poorly? It certainly is.

Thank you to PAWS, the volunteers and all the people who have applied to provide loving homes for these dogs. You are the difference between life and death for these sweet little animals.

Adopting my two rescued dogs was the best thing I ever did. One came from a puppy mill and has had health problems directly attributable to being bred by an ignorant breeder out to make a fast buck. He's had surgery to correct some of them, and is on medication to correct others. Even so, I love him dearly and couldn't imagine life without either of my babies.

Don't shop...adopt!
Logical

Woodridge, IL

#13 Mar 12, 2008
protection wrote:
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no they save the animals from abuse and cruelty. why would you dye your dog? It's not a jacket. Dye your own hair.
I support shelters and rescue groups and have adopted dogs and cats from them all my life.
You are ignorant and misinformed.
Well said. Thank you for trying to educate the uninformed.
Mary

United States

#14 Mar 12, 2008
according to what I read about this story, the owner signed over all the pups!! If the pups were of ANY importance to the owner-they would of been taken care of!! The owner gave over the pups-then the pups were cleans, vaccinnated and taken care of--now she wants them back??? Possession is 9/10th of the law! Leave the pups in the shelter and have the neglected owner/breeder pay for the upkeep until all the pups are adopted out. Which by the way-will not be very long! When I was there, there was a line out the door!! PAWS is a wonderful place!!
Cat

Chicago, IL

#15 Mar 12, 2008
I'm glad the dogs were seized, but why hasn't she been charged? It was evident that a neglect charge was warranted! They are leaving the door open for this "heartless" women to get the dogs back! Yikes!
BJM

Palatine, IL

#16 Mar 12, 2008
Cat wrote:
I'm glad the dogs were seized, but why hasn't she been charged? It was evident that a neglect charge was warranted! They are leaving the door open for this "heartless" women to get the dogs back! Yikes!
I agree with you. Why would they allow this case to be prolonged. Paws is undergoing enough stress. This only adds to the already damage done.
Fact straightener

Roseville, MI

#17 Mar 12, 2008
Liz wrote:
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Paws is a no-kill shelter and does not turn away dogs.
This is NOT TRUE.

Let me first say that animal shelters (all of them) and the people involved try very hard help animals as much as they can.

You are greatly mistaken if you think that PAWS will take in a terminally ill or dangerous dog and adopt it out to the public. PAWS and other "no-kill" shelters have a moral obligation to lessen the suffering of ill or dangerous animals. If this were true, PAWS would have a warehouse of fighting and dying dogs where they would stay forever (which is inhumane in itself). The truth of the matter is, whether it be one shelter or another, some animals have to be euthanized (like it or not).

Not every dog is adoptable and those that are not, should not live out their lives in cages. More dogs are taken in than are adopted. Simple math, sad but true.

We need to shut down puppy/kitten mills and enforce spay and neutering laws. Also, people need to get over the "but we want a puppy" syndrome and if they can't perhaps they need to get over the "we want a goldendoodle or puggle" stupidity.

Don't get me wrong. PAWS is great, but they are not the "savior of all animals" shelter that they market themselves to be. They are not the answer to the "open door" admission (will-have-to-euthanize in some cases) animal shelters.

Thanks.
Deb

Bellwood, IL

#18 Mar 12, 2008
Re: Tinley Park Paws... they are wonderful. We just adopted a sweet purebred cocker. She required a lot of medical attention and received it costing thousands of dollars. For the people who wanted the puppies... I could not believe what I saw when I went to the shelter. Pushing shoving etc. " I called first" blah blah. Are you people so ignorant that you dont recognize the need for the shelter to screen you ? If you work all day are you going to be able to care for a neglected animal ? Seriously, stop thinking about yourself first and put the poor pups needs as the priority. I saw a couple with a baby that had no carseat, a car falling apart, the young mom had no winter coat and yet they wonder why they would not be chosen ? If you cannot care for yourselves and your child how will you care for the pup ?
If you really "just want to help" adopt a special needs animal or older animal. Of course, most are not interested in that scenario.
Natalie

United States

#19 Mar 12, 2008
Don't forget, PAWS returned one of these dogs, Lance, to the alleged puppy mill's owner's half-sister, Mica Davis. Davis said that she knew her sister had the dog at the puppy mill, but now she would give him a good home. HUH??? This is on ABC 7's website. Do you think she cares about this dog? The dogs were in terrible condition when they were brought in, if you've seen any of the coverage, you know that. She admitted that she KNEW the dog was there...why should she get the dog back? Why did the PAWS board want to return her??? How is she treating that dog? It's not fair to Lance.

Yet the PAWS board of directors requested that a judge release the dog back to this owner. What kind of board is this? Is this the action of a board who cares about animals? To put him back in the same situation from which he came? The board did not do their homework, and now poor Lance is who knows where.

Almost everyone at PAWS are wonderful, caring people. However, the board of directors were careless in this situation. They seem to be forgetting that PAWS stands for Peoples Animal WELFARE Society. This action shows that they are not interested in Lance's welfare at all.

How can any board member even put the slightest bit of negativity into this story? Forty-eight dogs were saved from a living hell. Arrends says that it's been difficult handling this much attention? HUH? What does the comment about them NOT being German Shephards have to do with anything? Is she saying she wishes they were so that they wouldn't have gotten so many calls? Here's an idea Sue, DON'T VOLUNTEER if you don't want to help!!

Some of the board members seem to be the first ones in line to be interviewed (some of them holding the cute dogs for the camera) so that they can get their names and faces in the paper and on tv.

Please, if anyone has legal authority, please do something to save Lance.Let Lance get a home where people love him, instead of suffering in a home that gave him up to allegedly be used as a breeder stuck in a barn with several other dogs without heat, and with feces and urine built up in their cages.

TO ANYONE WHO IS A PAID MEMBER OF PAWS, PLEASE call the shelter and DEMAND that the board resigns. They failed miserably on this one, and they should not have another chance, Lance didn't get one.
Animal Lover

United States

#20 Mar 12, 2008
The Unit wrote:
How can we help?
1. Call/write the state's attorney's office requesting that charges be brought against this woman.

2. Request help for Lance, the dog who was returned to the half-sister.

3. Report any and all animal abuse you may see to an animal shelter and FOLLOW UP on it.
The Unit

United States

#21 Mar 12, 2008
Animal Lover wrote:
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1. Call/write the state's attorney's office requesting that charges be brought against this woman.
2. Request help for Lance, the dog who was returned to the half-sister.
3. Report any and all animal abuse you may see to an animal shelter and FOLLOW UP on it.
Thanks for the reply.

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