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#121
Dec 6, 2006
 
Hi Not Opinionated,

So I thought I would let you know that we have recieved a bit more information in regards to Paul's death. The knife that was used to kill Paul was NOT a pocket knife, it was a Kitchen knife and it was 7 inches in length. It seems that the weapon has made quite the duscussion and I want everyone to be on the same page as to how Paul was killed. I know on prior emails I had said it was of different size but my family has been told this by the DA so I can NOW believe it to be true.

I just wanted all to know the truth, maybe things will slowly become clear and we will have an understanding of the choices that were made that day.

Happy Holidays!

Jamie
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Dec 6, 2006
 
Jamie wrote:
Hi Not Opinionated,
So I thought I would let you know that we have recieved a bit more information in regards to Paul's death. The knife that was used to kill Paul was NOT a pocket knife, it was a Kitchen knife and it was 7 inches in length. It seems that the weapon has made quite the duscussion and I want everyone to be on the same page as to how Paul was killed. I know on prior emails I had said it was of different size but my family has been told this by the DA so I can NOW believe it to be true.
I just wanted all to know the truth, maybe things will slowly become clear and we will have an understanding of the choices that were made that day.
Happy Holidays!
Jamie
Hi Jamie, I just sent a reply to your post and it didnt show, so if by chance it does, please know I wasn't replying twice. The size of the knife and the fact that it was a kitchen knife really comes to a shock to me, you stated in one of your posts that it was 7" but that the DA had not released any information, well I am glad that they are finally giving you some answers. Did you read the post of Michaels mother, where she said that if she had known about the knife it would have been gone? That comment gave me the impression that it was a pocket knife. I have asked many people about the knife and the answer I get was that it was a pocket knife, so you see why I am reluctant to post anything that I hear unless I know it is the truth. I have talked with people of good reputation and like I have told you, everything that I know has been reported as it should have been. I am not afraid to tell the truth as many others may be. Thank you for the information at least now I can confront the people that have told me differently and hope they will admit to their lies. You have a Happy Holiday too and thank you for wishing me one.
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#123
Dec 7, 2006
 
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<quoted text>My name has nothing to do with anything as everyone has an opinion, most of the readers understand that. Yes there was a misunderstanding about the boarding school post, I do appologize for that. You and your mother have said hurtful things and your mother is a full grown woman and should know better. Why would you ask such a dumb question as to how many 22 year olds I know that would work at a boarding school? I have read how you play ball at a University, it sounds like you are bragging and it has nothing to do with Pauls death, and now you cant brag to him anymore about your games, that is exactly how you come across. I dont think a pocket knife is a weapon although it was used as one, a lot of people own a pocket knife, I would bet you even have one, but hey I could be wrong, even Boy Scouts buy them and they buy them for camping and other things they dont use them as weapons. I wont change my name for you either as I have a right to choose whatever name I like and unfortunately you cant control that so dont tell me what to do. Who has asked you for any sympathy for Mike Moll? I have not bashed anyone other than those that have intentionally hurt innocent people such as little girls, at least you are willing to admit you were wrong in doing so.
I am not a hateful, cruel person either, I do have much sorrow for the familys involved especially Pauls family their loss is forever. So I think before you make anymore statements to me they should be concerning Paul and not you. I would think that you would understand what I am trying to say as I do know the meaning, of not opionionated, do you know the meaning of condescending or arrogant? Hope you Hoidays are wonderful and that you have a happy New Year.
Your a very sarcastic pearson as am I. And you were wrong I don't own a pockett knife. And no I am not bragging I am simply making a point that i somewhat have my life put together. So that maybee the points that i had to make would make some sense and you wouldn't think that i am just some punk 22 year old friend of Pauls trying to stand up for him. And as far as the pockett knife... Anything can be used as a weapon if the pearson is trying to use it to hurt another. And most boy scouts who have them probably have parents who regulate it's use. And no I wan't telling you to put your name up i was simply saying that a real man would not be afraid to let others know what his opinions are. And you want my opinion, you are the type of person who likes sticking thier nose in where it doesn't belong. Now i don't know for sure what connection you have to either family but that probably is because you are afraid to let anyone know who you are. The fact is i have a direct connection to this matter and i do feel the need to stick up for not only my friend but my brother. And do you even know the emotional toll that a death can take on someone and you want to come on here and try to kick us around for our way of dealing with it. Yes at first i was angree and i have since gotten past that stage. So i have nothing more to say to the Moll family but i don't apreciate someone just sticking thier nose into places that it doesn't belong. And as far as me not being able to brag about my games to Paul. Have you ever had a best friend? Do you know what that is? The first person Paul hugged after he got off the mat at his state champion title match was me and he was so proud of what he had accoplished that he wanted to share it with his best friend. I wish i could do the same because as all athletes know it is the most important thing in the world to us besides the people that we get to share our wins and our losses with. Thats the point i was trying to make. How dare you try to even talk about mine and Pauls relationship in such a condisending manner. You know what you can say what you will about me but don't ever discuss mine and Pauls relationship again.
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Dec 7, 2006
 
To Not Opionionated

First off when a person knows not of which they speak it is usually best they say nothing at all. You have no right to say anyhting to or about anyone involved in this horrible tragic loss. You obviously know nothing of grief either. One of the most important stages that a person must journey through in any loss is anger. Anyone that has experienced grief or has the capability to show compasion for those who have would know this. The comments that were made early on in this were just that......ANGER....coming from the depths of the souls of those affected in this. AND.....you have very selective understanding on which you have chosen to comment. Once the initial shock and anger had passed, did you not see the communications made by myself and my son to members of the Moll family? DO NOT even begin to preach your version or opinion on loss, grief and how to handle it to myself or my son. My husband and father of my son died six years ago...we know what loss is and grief feels like. You have no right to comment on who you think myself or my son are or on the kind of relationship we had with Paul. I am not saying any of this in anger, please do mistake this communication for that, I am writing to you because I pity you. I pity you because eveidently you were not loved enough as a child. If you were, you not say the things you have said on this subject to people who love Paul, and you would have enough self esteem to use your real name. You see, a real man or woman, which ever you are stands behind their words and thoughts. It is my hope that you will at some point in your life know what it is to be loved. Paul and my son know that they are loved, that is why they are (were in Paul's case)the wonderful men they are (were in Paul's case).

I will give not give you another thought as you do not deserve a second of my time or thought. You are nothing to me or to anyone who loves Paul.

Again, I'm so sorry for you that you did not receive the love and attention you needed as a child. I would however, take that up with the people who raised you and not the people who are connected to this situation. You may also want to consider seeking professional help. God Bless!!!!
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#125
Dec 7, 2006
 
Not opinionated wrote:
<quoted text>stop bring up past mistakes unless you have no skeletons in your closet.
The Moll family because you dont know, all of them are
pretty productive people. can you say that about yourself? STOP all of the blabbing and come up with some facts that are true . We all know Mike killed Paul, and Mike and Paul were pretty decent people, and neither were saints and you know that is nothing but the truth. I hope you find some kind of peace because anger and name slandering is not how you are going to get it.
I'll go ahead and say it again and as you would call it BRAGGING I am on a full ride scholorship, And as some of the kids said that i worked with at the boarding school, "Mr.Buck you have changed my life forever, and i concider you more than a staff member but a brother." So yes i have a pretty preductive life to this point. And what did you say you do in Salt Lake? How productive is your life? And you know what this will be my last communication with you. You don't deserve my time and effort! Because I have preductive things to do. And you know you have done nothing but try to cause pain and heartache to those on both sides. You have posted remarks to mikes little sister that were completely uncalled for calling her mother a drug pusher and was pretty upset at what she said about her father. And if you did know those things about her mother for a fact why would you go public with it and do the same thing that you are bashing everyone else for? So as far as making people feel lesser than they are i guess we are both guilty in that respect. but i have made my apologies as did my mother, so we have made our peace and i feel that you should do the same. But from what i read i feel that you are or could be molls father. Is that why you don't want to show your name? I have nothing more to say to you. If you feel the need to respond knock your self out. But because i know the relationship my mother and myself had with Paul and i don't need to try to sell that to anyone. And another reason being is that you are looking for reactions and you are nothing to me so i will give no more reactions. And you know what my friend at the end of the day positive or negative what your opinions are don't matter. So there for this is me signing off besides I have finals to study for.
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Dec 7, 2006
 
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<quoted text>Your a very sarcastic pearson as am I. And you were wrong I don't own a pockett knife. And no I am not bragging I am simply making a point that i somewhat have my life put together. So that maybee the points that i had to make would make some sense and you wouldn't think that i am just some punk 22 year old friend of Pauls trying to stand up for him. And as far as the pockett knife... Anything can be used as a weapon if the pearson is trying to use it to hurt another. And most boy scouts who have them probably have parents who regulate it's use. And no I wan't telling you to put your name up i was simply saying that a real man would not be afraid to let others know what his opinions are. And you want my opinion, you are the type of person who likes sticking thier nose in where it doesn't belong. Now i don't know for sure what connection you have to either family but that probably is because you are afraid to let anyone know who you are. The fact is i have a direct connection to this matter and i do feel the need to stick up for not only my friend but my brother. And do you even know the emotional toll that a death can take on someone and you want to come on here and try to kick us around for our way of dealing with it. Yes at first i was angree and i have since gotten past that stage. So i have nothing more to say to the Moll family but i don't apreciate someone just sticking thier nose into places that it doesn't belong. And as far as me not being able to brag about my games to Paul. Have you ever had a best friend? Do you know what that is? The first person Paul hugged after he got off the mat at his state champion title match was me and he was so proud of what he had accoplished that he wanted to share it with his best friend. I wish i could do the same because as all athletes know it is the most important thing in the world to us besides the people that we get to share our wins and our losses with. Thats the point i was trying to make. How dare you try to even talk about mine and Pauls relationship in such a condisending manner. You know what you can say what you will about me but don't ever discuss mine and Pauls relationship again.
Hi Buck, now that you have vented, you should really try and re-read some of the comments that were made. You have completly taken my words and twisted them around to be something different than what was meant. As I said you probably have a pocket knife, but I could be wrong. Now lets get real. I do appologize for ripping you apart, but at sometime you needed to realize how very cruel you sounded. What does the fact of me having a best friend have to do with the Pauls death? I have not said anything about your relationship with Paul at anytime other than you come across as bragging about yourself in your posts. Its ok to be proud, of your accomplishments, but your accomplishments are of no value other than to you and your friends and family. As far as me sticking my nose where it doesnt belong, this site is for the public to read and respond to, it was not designed only for you. If you would read some of my earlier posts you would know what my realtionship is in the matter. If you have a dictonary on hand please look up the definition of condescending as you still dont know the meaning.
I am not on here to argue or compare accomplishments, or to discuss my private life or if I have a best friend, as it simply has nothing to do with Paul or Michael. And I really dont need to explain anything to you. I do feel that the only people that need any answers are the Kuhn family and the Moll family.
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Dec 8, 2006
 
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To Not Opionionated
First off when a person knows not of which they speak it is usually best they say nothing at all. You have no right to say anyhting to or about anyone involved in this horrible tragic loss. You obviously know nothing of grief either. One of the most important stages that a person must journey through in any loss is anger. Anyone that has experienced grief or has the capability to show compasion for those who have would know this. The comments that were made early on in this were just that......ANGER....coming from the depths of the souls of those affected in this. AND.....you have very selective understanding on which you have chosen to comment. Once the initial shock and anger had passed, did you not see the communications made by myself and my son to members of the Moll family? DO NOT even begin to preach your version or opinion on loss, grief and how to handle it to myself or my son. My husband and father of my son died six years ago...we know what loss is and grief feels like. You have no right to comment on who you think myself or my son are or on the kind of relationship we had with Paul. I am not saying any of this in anger, please do mistake this communication for that, I am writing to you because I pity you. I pity you because eveidently you were not loved enough as a child. If you were, you not say the things you have said on this subject to people who love Paul, and you would have enough self esteem to use your real name. You see, a real man or woman, which ever you are stands behind their words and thoughts. It is my hope that you will at some point in your life know what it is to be loved. Paul and my son know that they are loved, that is why they are (were in Paul's case)the wonderful men they are (were in Paul's case).
I will give not give you another thought as you do not deserve a second of my time or thought. You are nothing to me or to anyone who loves Paul.
Again, I'm so sorry for you that you did not receive the love and attention you needed as a child. I would however, take that up with the people who raised you and not the people who are connected to this situation. You may also want to consider seeking professional help. God Bless!!!!
What does any of this have to do with Paul?
You really have no idea do you? You are a full grown woman and still have not learned to express yourself, in any other way other than to say ugly things to someone. However I dont know you personally and you apparently dont know me. You have given some really good advice, why dont you take it. I realize I may have hit some sore spots and I really am sorry for that, but you were horribly cruel, you hurt more people than what was necessary, that was why I replied back in such an ugly way to you. You should know by now that in a time of sorrow is not the time to be cruel to anyone.
God Bless you too. and I do mean that. Happy Holidays
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Dec 8, 2006
 
Buck Turnidge wrote:
<quoted text>I'll go ahead and say it again and as you would call it BRAGGING I am on a full ride scholorship, And as some of the kids said that i worked with at the boarding school, "Mr.Buck you have changed my life forever, and i concider you more than a staff member but a brother." So yes i have a pretty preductive life to this point. And what did you say you do in Salt Lake? How productive is your life? And you know what this will be my last communication with you. You don't deserve my time and effort! Because I have preductive things to do. And you know you have done nothing but try to cause pain and heartache to those on both sides. You have posted remarks to mikes little sister that were completely uncalled for calling her mother a drug pusher and was pretty upset at what she said about her father. And if you did know those things about her mother for a fact why would you go public with it and do the same thing that you are bashing everyone else for? So as far as making people feel lesser than they are i guess we are both guilty in that respect. but i have made my apologies as did my mother, so we have made our peace and i feel that you should do the same. But from what i read i feel that you are or could be molls father. Is that why you don't want to show your name? I have nothing more to say to you. If you feel the need to respond knock your self out. But because i know the relationship my mother and myself had with Paul and i don't need to try to sell that to anyone. And another reason being is that you are looking for reactions and you are nothing to me so i will give no more reactions. And you know what my friend at the end of the day positive or negative what your opinions are don't matter. So there for this is me signing off besides I have finals to study for.
Buck, I didnt call her mother a drug pusher there you go twisting words again, re-read the posts.
Good luck with your exams, school will make your life easier, it is very important to get an education especially in this day and age. School takes a lot of sacrifice. Oh and I didnt tell Michaels little sister anything she didnt already know, but we really dont need to go there do we.
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Dec 8, 2006
 
TO Jamie and Jessica,
I have tried my best to find your answers, I believe yours as you got your information from the DA, but dont you think a knife is a knife regarless of what it is used for? Actually I have still been told that it was a pocket knife I will continue to ask questions but I dont want to tell you something that isnt true. Happy Holidays!!!
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Dec 8, 2006
 
Not opinionated wrote:
<quoted text>What does any of this have to do with Paul?
You really have no idea do you? You are a full grown woman and still have not learned to express yourself, in any other way other than to say ugly things to someone. However I dont know you personally and you apparently dont know me. You have given some really good advice, why dont you take it. I realize I may have hit some sore spots and I really am sorry for that, but you were horribly cruel, you hurt more people than what was necessary, that was why I replied back in such an ugly way to you. You should know by now that in a time of sorrow is not the time to be cruel to anyone.
God Bless you too. and I do mean that. Happy Holidays
I forgot to mention, that you seem like a very sad a lonely woman, and please it wouldnt bother me one bit if you didnt think of me another time. I only want to wish you health and happiness as you dont seen to have had much in your life and you deserve to be happy. You never know what has happened in a persons life to make them like they are. You seem like you could be quite nice if you could overcome the bitterness you hold inside. I forgot to remember that in some of my posts.
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Dec 8, 2006
 
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<quoted text>I forgot to mention, that you seem like a very sad a lonely woman, and please it wouldnt bother me one bit if you didnt think of me another time. I only want to wish you health and happiness as you dont seen to have had much in your life and you deserve to be happy. You never know what has happened in a persons life to make them like they are. You seem like you could be quite nice if you could overcome the bitterness you hold inside. I forgot to remember that in some of my posts.
This just goes to show that you really do not know what you are talking about. I am anything but sad and lonely. I am a loving, giving and caring person (not that I have anything to prove to you), I always have an open heart, as was exemplified when I opened my home and my heart to Paul when he lived with me during his senior year of high school, I served homeless veterans on thanksgiving, and I have shown those who know me what it is to have faith. There is NOTHING lacking in my life as far as happiness. I have a son that I am very proud of, and many of his friends who call me momma. I have life long friendships, someone who is sad and lonely does not have these wonderful blessings in thier life. Have I experienced heartache, you bet, but it is my faith and heart that has carried me. As stated before things have been said in the moment of which I have apologized for. I will forgive you as well for your un called for behavior and assumptions you have made about people you admittedly don't even know. I feel you gain some type of satisfaction or self enrichment over judging others. I don't worry about what you think of me, it just doesn't matter. At the end of the day I have only on judge, and I'm pretty sure he is proud of the person I am. Have a wonderful life, I hope you find love and happiness.

This will be the last time I respond to you. I will only pray for you.
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This just goes to show that you really do not know what you are talking about. I am anything but sad and lonely. I am a loving, giving and caring person (not that I have anything to prove to you), I always have an open heart, as was exemplified when I opened my home and my heart to Paul when he lived with me during his senior year of high school, I served homeless veterans on thanksgiving, and I have shown those who know me what it is to have faith. There is NOTHING lacking in my life as far as happiness. I have a son that I am very proud of, and many of his friends who call me momma. I have life long friendships, someone who is sad and lonely does not have these wonderful blessings in thier life. Have I experienced heartache, you bet, but it is my faith and heart that has carried me. As stated before things have been said in the moment of which I have apologized for. I will forgive you as well for your un called for behavior and assumptions you have made about people you admittedly don't even know. I feel you gain some type of satisfaction or self enrichment over judging others. I don't worry about what you think of me, it just doesn't matter. At the end of the day I have only on judge, and I'm pretty sure he is proud of the person I am. Have a wonderful life, I hope you find love and happiness.
This will be the last time I respond to you. I will only pray for you.
HI Debbie, I have forgiven you also for the cruel things that you have said and I do realize that some of us deal with things differently, I am not out here to judge you or anyone else. I am happy to know that you are not lonely, I as well have much love and happiness in my life. But you see Actions speak louder than words, you can accross as being a very hateful woman, and I understand now that you were only angry, anger and hate have a fine line. As I have said once before, love is a very natual thing, hate you have to invite in. I have found my peace in life, I didnt get it by being bitter or cruel, thats too much for a person to carry and the load is heavy. I am not a hateful or cruel person, if you will read my posts as well as yours, I agree things were said by both of us that should never have been said. My true concern is for the Kuhn and Moll family it is not with you. I will not pray for you tonight instead I will do something good for someone and think of you when i do it. Thanks for your letter and have a good holiday
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Dec 8, 2006
 
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TO Jamie and Jessica,
I have tried my best to find your answers, I believe yours as you got your information from the DA, but dont you think a knife is a knife regarless of what it is used for? Actually I have still been told that it was a pocket knife I will continue to ask questions but I dont want to tell you something that isnt true. Happy Holidays!!!
Hi Not Opinionated:
How are you? Obviously very busy. You know I have been communicating with a member of the Moll family outside of this website, vie email, I know thats kind of unusual. As you have probably noticed I am very open to peoples thoughts and opinions. However I am able to distinguish the difference between characteristic and ignorance. I do agree at the get go of these postings there were ALOT of people who said alot of thoughtless and unnecessary things, but I believe with time all things can and will change.
I obviously have NO clue who you are or of what relationship you have with my brother and the MOll family and I have NO Clue who your informant is. Regardless of that lack of knowledge I have I still appreciate your efforts in helping us get the answers that we want and need.
Like I told the member of the Moll family that I have been communicating with, I dont want to hear opinions I only want to hear the truth, regardless of how painful it might be. Also in regards to the knife, I dont know who is telling you that its a pocket knife, however I do know that it was a "large" knife (this was even passed on to me by this memeber of the Moll family from Michaels attorney.) So regardless of the knife and the size of the knife, Paul was killed.
Another thing that I have been discussing is that fact that we ALL know that we are NEVER going to get the 100% truth. There were only 2 people there at that moment, one is dead and the other in prison fighting to get out. Noone will ever hear Paul's version so our faith and hope lies in the hand of the justice system and God.
At this time I am just going to wait and see what unfolds. Really I have decided that noone's opinins are going to give us the answers we want. I do know that in my heart I believe that Michael Moll should serve the time for what he did regardless of the outcome.
I have decided that its the best for me to not thrive off of others opinions and wait and hope to get some answers on January 19th. I want to truly thank you for all your efforts that you have displayed in helping my sisters and I, it is greatly appreciated. I hope that in the future we might have the opportunity to meet, and if not I hope you have the best of holidays!
Once again thank you for all the honest and truthful answers that you have given me!
If you ever want to contact me outside of this postings my email address is tjworthen2001@yahoo.com

Happy Holidays!

Jamie Worthen
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Dec 9, 2006
 
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Hi Not Opinionated:
How are you? Obviously very busy. You know I have been communicating with a member of the Moll family outside of this website, vie email, I know thats kind of unusual. As you have probably noticed I am very open to peoples thoughts and opinions. However I am able to distinguish the difference between characteristic and ignorance. I do agree at the get go of these postings there were ALOT of people who said alot of thoughtless and unnecessary things, but I believe with time all things can and will change.
I obviously have NO clue who you are or of what relationship you have with my brother and the MOll family and I have NO Clue who your informant is. Regardless of that lack of knowledge I have I still appreciate your efforts in helping us get the answers that we want and need.
Like I told the member of the Moll family that I have been communicating with, I dont want to hear opinions I only want to hear the truth, regardless of how painful it might be. Also in regards to the knife, I dont know who is telling you that its a pocket knife, however I do know that it was a "large" knife (this was even passed on to me by this memeber of the Moll family from Michaels attorney.) So regardless of the knife and the size of the knife, Paul was killed.
Another thing that I have been discussing is that fact that we ALL know that we are NEVER going to get the 100% truth. There were only 2 people there at that moment, one is dead and the other in prison fighting to get out. Noone will ever hear Paul's version so our faith and hope lies in the hand of the justice system and God.
At this time I am just going to wait and see what unfolds. Really I have decided that noone's opinins are going to give us the answers we want. I do know that in my heart I believe that Michael Moll should serve the time for what he did regardless of the outcome.
I have decided that its the best for me to not thrive off of others opinions and wait and hope to get some answers on January 19th. I want to truly thank you for all your efforts that you have displayed in helping my sisters and I, it is greatly appreciated. I hope that in the future we might have the opportunity to meet, and if not I hope you have the best of holidays!
Once again thank you for all the honest and truthful answers that you have given me!
If you ever want to contact me outside of this postings my email address is tjworthen2001@yahoo.com
Happy Holidays!
Jamie Worthen
I know what you mean by busy, soem people are just hard to deal with, they seem to be on subjects that have no meaning, and I may be wrong, but it seems to me that they are not getting enough attention, some people are cruel because it makes them feel better, i understand that, actully I makes me laugh and believe me they have to much time on their hands, they have forgotten what is important, buy they dont bother me.
how is your family doing? Really, what could I do to make you Christmas a little nicer? I would love ot do somehthing nice as you deserve it. Can I ask you a question it wont hurt my feelings but i really need to know did you find me out of line on the last posts? I just believe they have no idea of what is going on and sometimes the truth hurts. I know i may have hurt them, and i did it with intention just to shut them up, I am still unable to do it so I give up. What is Pauls plot # and where does he rest. I would like to pay a visit to him I bet he has a lot to say. I am so glad that you dont have the heavy burden of hate to carry with you anymore you must admit it was heavy. I got home around 10:45 tonight I started around 2:00 all of this time i was asking questions, some match some are off the hook. Well whatever you will find out the truth. If you are communicating with Mrs Moll she seems to be nice but watch out.
Good luck Jamie you are doing well at this, better than i could.
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Dec 9, 2006
 
I am glad they have no clue, how would i be able to find anything out?
Debbie Turnidge

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Dec 11, 2006
 
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<quoted text>HI Debbie, I have forgiven you also for the cruel things that you have said and I do realize that some of us deal with things differently, I am not out here to judge you or anyone else. I am happy to know that you are not lonely, I as well have much love and happiness in my life. But you see Actions speak louder than words, you can accross as being a very hateful woman, and I understand now that you were only angry, anger and hate have a fine line. As I have said once before, love is a very natual thing, hate you have to invite in. I have found my peace in life, I didnt get it by being bitter or cruel, thats too much for a person to carry and the load is heavy. I am not a hateful or cruel person, if you will read my posts as well as yours, I agree things were said by both of us that should never have been said. My true concern is for the Kuhn and Moll family it is not with you. I will not pray for you tonight instead I will do something good for someone and think of you when i do it. Thanks for your letter and have a good holiday
I totally agree with you in regards to hate. I should know better that anyone that hating takes way to much energy. My husband was a body guard for Don King and heavy weight boxers. He once asked a person who was once heavy weight champion of the world if he had to be angry or feel hate at his opponent when he entered the ring, the boxer replied "no, it takes way to much energy to hate". Isn't this the truth. I agree with Jaimie that all that is important is to find out the facts. Speculation is not what is going to help anyone at this point.

I'm saddened that so much has been said and so many feelings hurt, I am not innocent, but I am not proud of some of the things I've said either.

I did love Paul very much and guess my emotions got the best of me.
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#137
Dec 11, 2006
 
Debbie Turnidge wrote:
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I totally agree with you in regards to hate. I should know better that anyone that hating takes way to much energy. My husband was a body guard for Don King and heavy weight boxers. He once asked a person who was once heavy weight champion of the world if he had to be angry or feel hate at his opponent when he entered the ring, the boxer replied "no, it takes way to much energy to hate". Isn't this the truth. I agree with Jaimie that all that is important is to find out the facts. Speculation is not what is going to help anyone at this point.
I'm saddened that so much has been said and so many feelings hurt, I am not innocent, but I am not proud of some of the things I've said either.
I did love Paul very much and guess my emotions got the best of me.
I agree emotions do get in our way, but at least you are woman enough to admit it. May your Holidays be great!!
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Jan 2, 2007
 
Everyone have a wonderful new year.
DebbieTurnidge

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Sep 11, 2009
 
Paul, Buck and I still think of you everyday, especially today. And to Paul's family, Buck and I hope you are doing well. Take Care and rest assured that we will never forget Paul.
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