Could JonBenet Ramsey's Murder Be Sol...

Could JonBenet Ramsey's Murder Be Solved?

There are 545 comments on the Canyon News story from Oct 18, 2011, titled Could JonBenet Ramsey's Murder Be Solved?. In it, Canyon News reports that:

BOULDER, Colo.-Nearly 15 years ago in 1996, a 6-year-old little girl, who the media constantly refers to as a pageant queen, JonBenet Ramsey was found dead in her parents' Boulder, Colorado mansion the day after Christmas.

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Since: May 11

Seattle, WA

#673 Sep 9, 2012
DrSeussMd wrote:
You aren't doing very well on accuracy today, are you? ;)
I would appreciate if you would keep your misinformation concerning me off this board. TIA.
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funny how prolific Biz has suddenly become when normally he/she disappears when asked for proof of her statements. I guess he/she feels threatened by Kolar's book enough to sit here for hours trolling;)

“WAX ON”

Since: Jul 10

WAX OFF

#674 Sep 10, 2012
I think all the IDI are threatened by his book!
realTopaz wrote:
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funny how prolific Biz has suddenly become when normally he/she disappears when asked for proof of her statements. I guess he/she feels threatened by Kolar's book enough to sit here for hours trolling;)

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#675 Sep 10, 2012
DrSeussMd wrote:
You aren't doing very well on accuracy today, are you? ;)
I would appreciate if you would keep your misinformation concerning me off this board. TIA.
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Oh now Seuss, what fun would any of them have if not for targeting you? LOL

Reporting is the way to go with nuts like that. You'd think that after all is said and done at least she would come on and answer or address some of her ridiculous claims with backup documentation instead of dredging up years old posts just to troll.

I also have reported the posts and have emailed them as well to let them know that I have further information if they need to contact her. She's not registered so they may think there is no way to reach her.

This was a sure sign of IDI panic.

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#676 Sep 10, 2012
Biz wrote:
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pinker---are you the former "Fatal Attraction" girlfriend that John Ramsey dumped? You sure sound like you were personally affected by this family...and Patsy. It's soooo obvious. You need professional help. Really. Just trying to be helpful .You aren't right. Sometimes I wonder if YOU were the one who sent the life size doll to John just to try to send him over the edge.
Why are assuming Moonjack's hat. Why do you change your hat so often?
First you accuse her of losing to Patsy in a beauty pageant and now you are inferring that she was a lover of John? John was a married man and surely would never cheat on his wife....oh wait, never mind.

It is obvious that you have regressed into a teenage tantrum which isn't flattering considering your age in real life. Get a grip.

You really should be ashamed of yourself for stooping as low as this. If anyone thought you were an adult interested in the CASE, you sure didn't need any of us RDIs to prove it is nothing more than just another apolgoist for the Ramseys. You did well all on your own, so for that I thank you
The Truth Hurts

United States

#677 Sep 10, 2012
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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She appears to on a mean streak, just report all of them, I did.
Already done.:)

Since: Feb 12

Flushing, MI

#678 Sep 10, 2012
DETROIT wrote:
<quoted text>Columbo rerun Funeral for a friend i think it`s called. Actually the idea behind was to drag it on until the next day so people wouldn`t search and find the body until the next day, the 20th anniversary of the Michigan child killings, one of which was Christmas and one of which was Valentines when he murdered his co-conspirator Helgoth. Helgoth thought the idea was to kidnap JBR for ransom of $118,000 and that he`d get half. That`s why he told Kenady that he`d soon have $60,000.$118,000/2=$59,000. Also the 2nd purpose of having the note was Fleet`s idea because he wanted to frame John for the murder. That`s why they left the top piece of the practice ransom note still attached to the pad and red and gray fibres from Patsy`s outfit in key places because they hated the Ramseys.
*** You are correct about Helgoth. His partner has changed his name to " RICK ". People who see him around town call him " WALRUS ". He always styles his facial hair in a way that hides his very distinctive chin. Osama bin Laden could not hide among his people because of his height. Bill Ramsey aka (now) Rick does have no choice but to hide his chin's unique feature. When the trained authorities question Bill and his two friend's, Terry and Ed about their alibi (leading up to the time of the murder) and friendship, ALL the pieces of the puzzle WILL fall into place for JonBenet's murder case. This man has dug deeper into hiding since his AA group discovered Bill's arrest record for assault.* BPD--- Do YOU know that --- ALL LEADS MUST BE INVESTIGATED?
The Truth Hurts

United States

#685 Sep 10, 2012
Thank you, Moderators!:)

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Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#686 Sep 11, 2012
The Truth Hurts wrote:
Thank you, Moderators!:)
I'll second that thank you. Topix has been more efficient with removing offensive posts so the reporting works. It may not happen as immediately as some would like, but they get it done
Henri McPhee

Houghton Le Spring, UK

#687 Sep 11, 2012
The Truth Hurts wrote:
Thank you, Moderators!:)
That's a bit mean. Biz is one of the most fair and sensible posters on this forum.

It looks to me like a concerted attempt by the RDI to drive IDI people off this forum by complaining to moderators about them, so that the forum can then be plastered with quite ludicroussly unsatisfactroy 'Burke did it' theories without facts.

It all reminds me a bit of when I used to post on some now defunct MacDonald case forums, where they all ganged up on pro- MacDonald posters to insult and ban them, and delete their posts.

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Since: Jul 10

WAX OFF

#688 Sep 11, 2012
The posts in question that were removed were not "case" posts Henri. If they had been I would agree with you. They were personal attacks against posters.
Henri McPhee wrote:
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That's a bit mean. Biz is one of the most fair and sensible posters on this forum.
It looks to me like a concerted attempt by the RDI to drive IDI people off this forum by complaining to moderators about them, so that the forum can then be plastered with quite ludicroussly unsatisfactroy 'Burke did it' theories without facts.
It all reminds me a bit of when I used to post on some now defunct MacDonald case forums, where they all ganged up on pro- MacDonald posters to insult and ban them, and delete their posts.
The Truth Hurts

Ypsilanti, MI

#689 Sep 11, 2012
Henri McPhee wrote:
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That's a bit mean. Biz is one of the most fair and sensible posters on this forum.
It looks to me like a concerted attempt by the RDI to drive IDI people off this forum by complaining to moderators about them, so that the forum can then be plastered with quite ludicroussly unsatisfactroy 'Burke did it' theories without facts.
It all reminds me a bit of when I used to post on some now defunct MacDonald case forums, where they all ganged up on pro- MacDonald posters to insult and ban them, and delete their posts.
The mods don't delete posts just because people ask them to. They delete them if they AGREE that they are offensive, insulting and trollish.

Biz has not been "fair" and "sensible" in her postings for quite some time now.
What would you know about being fair and sensible anyway? LOL

“God Save America ”

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#691 Jun 27, 2013
It seems the discussions of this case have almost ceased. I don’t believe the case will ever be solved, which is a shame. I wonder if the BPD has just given up permanently? Anyone know if there is anything happening with them?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#692 Jun 27, 2013
IMO It's not a matter of solving the case, it's prosecuting. Most have figured it out - Burke lost control of himself and his emotions hitting Jonbenet's head with a golf club and the Ramsey parents covered up for him.

All the answers are within the family and their hidden dysfunction. The kids behaved with one of the most absurd emotional symptoms known, they left bowel movements around the house for their mother to clean up. This is hallmark sign of mental illness and it's partnership with criminal behaviors.

The investigation is waiting for Burke to be interviewed which won't happen without court intervention like a Grand Jury. As time goes by more tidbits will leak out but the bigger issue is he may kill again...

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Since: Jan 07

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#693 Jun 27, 2013
moonjack wrote:
IMO It's not a matter of solving the case, it's prosecuting. Most have figured it out - Burke lost control of himself and his emotions hitting Jonbenet's head with a golf club and the Ramsey parents covered up for him.
All the answers are within the family and their hidden dysfunction. The kids behaved with one of the most absurd emotional symptoms known, they left bowel movements around the house for their mother to clean up. This is hallmark sign of mental illness and it's partnership with criminal behaviors.
The investigation is waiting for Burke to be interviewed which won't happen without court intervention like a Grand Jury. As time goes by more tidbits will leak out but the bigger issue is he may kill again...
I disagree. The case has never been solved, mainly because no one had the investigative skills or the wisdom to look past the ends of their noses. Burke, a mere child at the time, did not kill his sister and the Ramseys did not cover up, as there was nothing to hide. The police had no reliable information that family had proven dysfunctions as is reported. They were a normal, loving family who suffered an unbearable tragedy, a tragedy made worse by incompetent investigators and unfair treatment by the press, the police, and by ignorance.

Are you really qualified to make medical determinations about the mental stability of the Ramseys? If you have a medical license, you are; otherwise, I suggest you leave the psychiatric diagnosis to the experts. You have no proof the children behaved in such a manner, do you? Was it a reliable source who supplied that information or possibly someone who needed to draw attention from herself/himself, perhaps the actual killer?

There is no need to reinterview Burke. Once again, the incompetent BPD is wasting time and money in repeating their mistakes in the initial investigation, lacking the intelligence and skills to conduct their investigation with open, logical minds; so nothing again will be resolved unless they charge an innocent Burke with murder while continuing to allow the murderer to remain unapprehended. There must be something in the air in Boulder that causes such stupidity, for most learn from their mistakes.

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Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#694 Jun 27, 2013
There, their, they’re Logan, not to panic.

Nobody will ever be charged and the murderer/s have gotten away with it :)

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Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#695 Jun 27, 2013
Capricorn wrote:
There, their, they’re Logan, not to panic.
Nobody will ever be charged and the murderer/s have gotten away with it :)
I certainly agree. No one will ever be charged and the murderer(s) has gotten away. If the truth ever comes out, we both may be surprised. If it turns out to be the Ramseys, I will accept it; and I'm sure you would if it's not the Ramseys. The only thing that matters is catching him/her.

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Since: Jan 07

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#696 Jun 28, 2013
DrSeussMd wrote:
I think all the IDI are threatened by his book!
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Sorry but I doubt that. It's just another book of misinterpretation and bias. He is wrong in his conclusions.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#697 Jun 28, 2013
Patsy killed JonBenet deliberately. No one else was involved. There was no staging for police. Everything that was done was done by Patsy for Patsy as part of a psychotic fantasy revolving around an imagined relationship with a supernatural being, the fear of judgment by that God and the fear of death. What people mistakingly take as staging for police had symbolic meaning known only to Patsy. This includes the ransom note. There were two aspects to what was done to the body: the ligatures were suspension devices, the body was posed and viewed and then taken down, placed in the small room, wrapped and the duct tape applied to set the kidnapping scene up in Patsy's mind. The ransom note is full of the ideas that swirled in Patsy's mind that night and plagued her for many years.

The goal was not to kill JonBenet but to make an Angel out of her.

Patsy herself said after the funeral "JonBenet is in Heaven with God awaiting her mother's arrival and it won't be long." Patsy put JonBenet in that heaven to complete the fantasy and in her mind assure her life after death.

As the dedication in DOI says:

Wherever we go ...
Whatever we do ...
[We're gonna go through it together ...]
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#698 Jun 28, 2013
There are no such things as supernatural beings.

But the Gods are real.

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Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#699 Jun 28, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
Patsy killed JonBenet deliberately. No one else was involved. There was no staging for police. Everything that was done was done by Patsy for Patsy as part of a psychotic fantasy revolving around an imagined relationship with a supernatural being, the fear of judgment by that God and the fear of death. What people mistakingly take as staging for police had symbolic meaning known only to Patsy. This includes the ransom note. There were two aspects to what was done to the body: the ligatures were suspension devices, the body was posed and viewed and then taken down, placed in the small room, wrapped and the duct tape applied to set the kidnapping scene up in Patsy's mind. The ransom note is full of the ideas that swirled in Patsy's mind that night and plagued her for many years.
The goal was not to kill JonBenet but to make an Angel out of her.
Patsy herself said after the funeral "JonBenet is in Heaven with God awaiting her mother's arrival and it won't be long." Patsy put JonBenet in that heaven to complete the fantasy and in her mind assure her life after death.
As the dedication in DOI says:
Wherever we go ...
Whatever we do ...
[We're gonna go through it together ...]
Surely you don’t believe that . That is the wildest theory I’ve ever read and the most unbelievable

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