Truth about christianity?

Truth about christianity?

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OpenYourEyes

Jackson, MS

#2 Jan 1, 2013
And I didnt curse or say anything perverted so don't report my post ppl!!!
OpenYourEyes

Jackson, MS

#3 Jan 1, 2013
The "god" theory is about equal in evidence to the "tooth fairy" theory ! Yet this is wat u base your life and all ur choices on? Just because that's what The media tells u to do?
JustSaying

Jackson, MS

#4 Jan 1, 2013
Blessed Son

Bennington, OK

#5 Jan 3, 2013
My God is very real! The creator of all that is. And has made himself available to those who will seek him in honesty. There are millions of us who know him and he has made himself known to us in very real ways. He also chooses to hide himself from those who choose to not believe in him. Never-the-less he still love them and is waiting patiently, while there is still time, for them to get to know him.
Resident

United States

#6 Jan 3, 2013
Is that the "Truth about Christinity?" Comparing a religion followed by millions to a childs myth.

I haven't heard that the tooth fairy is able to give strength in times of trouble. Hope where there is despair.

Perhaps it wasn't there for you and that is what troubles you. Trust me friend when I tell you that God's love holds more for you then monetary gain.

If your mind is closed...giving evidence for the existense of God would fall on deaf ears. If the media is what you've chosen to base your choices and life on...you should get out more.

Faith is the key to happiness under the divine gaze of our father...evidence is only credible to those who lack that.

God bless all
Smack

Hattiesburg, MS

#7 Jan 3, 2013
We are all sinners and need a savior. Thank God for His Son Jesus. One day you will believe. Which side you believe on is the only thing that matters. Every knee SHALL bow and every ------- shall confess that He is Lord...
ha ha

Hattiesburg, MS

#8 Jan 3, 2013
Resident wrote:
Is that the "Truth about Christinity?" Comparing a religion followed by millions to a childs myth.
I haven't heard that the tooth fairy is able to give strength in times of trouble. Hope where there is despair.
Perhaps it wasn't there for you and that is what troubles you. Trust me friend when I tell you that God's love holds more for you then monetary gain.
If your mind is closed...giving evidence for the existense of God would fall on deaf ears. If the media is what you've chosen to base your choices and life on...you should get out more.
Faith is the key to happiness under the divine gaze of our father...evidence is only credible to those who lack that.
God bless all
How about the deaf ears and closed-mindedness of Christians to hear anything about evolution which is even being taught to children in school? I am just as strong in my convictions about it as you are religion but still all I get in response, after trying it your way at numerous churches for too many years, is study the bible and we'll pray for you or you're going to hell for thinking that way! I fully understand how humans evolved and can TRY to explain it to you but you don't care! You just want to believe what you always have even if it is wrong! Just some 50 years ago it was illegal for black people to go to college and the president had to send national guards to OLE MISS when it was legalized because white people were so strong in there convictions that they were right! What a joke! How many more years is this ''Jesus thing'' going to take in the South? People have interpreted it, translated it, studied it, learned it, hidden parts of it and turned it into what ever they want to but you still have to step off a cliff to BELIEVE THE BIBLE! It was good for early civilizations because its the only way they could explain things, much like a 3rd world country that still shoot hundreds of rounds of ammo at a lunar eclipse claiming to ''kill the snake that's swallowing it'', but we have a better understanding now! We as humans better step up and get the earth back in shape with our spare time and community efforts or I guess this whole debate will be answered for everyone! There's really no simple answer because we like our ''comforts'' but we HAVE TO take care of the water and recycle, reuse and don't waste or take plentiful food for granted! Streams, rivers, and lakes are so polluted by chemicals, mainly PCB, that they are going to be devoid of life! We are cutting all the trees, killing all the animals and the human population of earth is around 7 billion! We need stricter laws for heinous crimes like murder, rape, armed robbery and yea I'm talking about ''fry em'' or what I like to say ''make them go truly green''! I don't want to kill anyone but if they choose to do it.......Also let these young ignorant girls scrape their uterus out with abortions if they can't keep their legs closed before they bring ''unwanted'' children in this world from the start! No one was predestined! We are all a drain on available NOT UNLIMITED resources! I don't believe they should because they never get over the emotional part but its only right that a baby gets a chance! Also neuter any male who has 5 kids before age 21! People can say I'm crazy, warped or whatever but I believe ''religion'' fragmented to give a spin on the story to get more people involved....aka money for their own group.... just like the money making scheme Jesus died for at the hands of the Romans...how ironic? Now its time to put time and effort into undoing what we have done to the real creator and the one that sustains ours and every other species...the earth!
Resident

United States

#9 Jan 4, 2013
ha ha wrote:
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How about the deaf ears and closed-mindedness of Christians to hear anything about evolution which is even being taught to children in school? I am just as strong in my convictions about it as you are religion but still all I get in response, after trying it your way at numerous churches for too many years, is study the bible and we'll pray for you or you're going to hell for thinking that way! I fully understand how humans evolved and can TRY to explain it to you but you don't care! You just want to believe what you always have even if it is wrong! Just some 50 years ago it was illegal for black people to go to college and the president had to send national guards to OLE MISS when it was legalized because white people were so strong in there convictions that they were right! What a joke! How many more years is this ''Jesus thing'' going to take in the South? People have interpreted it, translated it, studied it, learned it, hidden parts of it and turned it into what ever they want to but you still have to step off a cliff to BELIEVE THE BIBLE! It was good for early civilizations because its the only way they could explain things, much like a 3rd world country that still shoot hundreds of rounds of ammo at a lunar eclipse claiming to ''kill the snake that's swallowing it'', but we have a better understanding now! We as humans better step up and get the earth back in shape with our spare time and community efforts or I guess this whole debate will be answered for everyone! There's really no simple answer because we like our ''comforts'' but we HAVE TO take care of the water and recycle, reuse and don't waste or take plentiful food for granted! Streams, rivers, and lakes are so polluted by chemicals, mainly PCB, that they are going to be devoid of life! We are cutting all the trees, killing all the animals and the human population of earth is around 7 billion! We need stricter laws for heinous crimes like murder, rape, armed robbery and yea I'm talking about ''fry em'' or what I like to say ''make them go truly green''! I don't want to kill anyone but if they choose to do it.......Also let these young ignorant girls scrape their uterus out with abortions if they can't keep their legs closed before they bring ''unwanted'' children in this world from the start! No one was predestined! We are all a drain on available NOT UNLIMITED resources! I don't believe they should because they never get over the emotional part but its only right that a baby gets a chance! Also neuter any male who has 5 kids before age 21! People can say I'm crazy, warped or whatever but I believe ''religion'' fragmented to give a spin on the story to get more people involved....aka money for their own group.... just like the money making scheme Jesus died for at the hands of the Romans...how ironic? Now its time to put time and effort into undoing what we have done to the real creator and the one that sustains ours and every other species...the earth!
ha ha wrote:
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How about the deaf ears and closed-mindedness of Christians to hear anything about evolution which is even being taught to children in school?
Assuming that all Christians dismiss evolution is absurd. I studied it and many more theories of creation. All create as many questions as answers and so Faith must be added to the equation.
ha ha wrote:
<quoted text> I am just as strong in my convictions about it as you are religion but still all I get in response, after trying it your way at numerous churches for too many years, is study the bible and we'll pray for you or you're going to hell for thinking that way!
I'm sorry but this is also a comment where you make an assumption that includes all Christians. My way is to study all religions and weigh all the evidence...theories before deciding for yourself. If someone is telling you you're going to hell for thinking! Well...any enlightened person wouldn't tell you that.
Resident

United States

#10 Jan 4, 2013
ha ha wrote:
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I fully understand how humans evolved and can TRY to explain it to you but you don't care! You just want to believe what you always have even if it is wrong
You fully understand how humans evolved? You are a genius! Many scientist don't agree.
Ralph Seelke received his Ph.D. in Microbiology from the University of Minnesota and the Mayo Graduate School of Medicine in 1981, was a postdoctoral researcher at the Mayo Clinic until 1983, and has been an Associate Professor or Professor in the Department of Biology and Earth Sciences at the University of Wisconsin-Superior since 1989. An authority on evolution's capabilities and limitations in producing new functions in bacteria. Dissenting scientist.
"Darwinism was an interesting idea in the 19th century, when handwaving explanations gave a plausible, if not properly scientific, framework into which we could fit biological facts. However, what we have learned since the days of Darwin throws doubt on natural selection's ability to create complex biological systems - and we still have little more than handwaving as an argument in its favour."
Professor Colin Reeves
Dept of Mathematical Sciences
Coventry University
ha ha wrote:
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Just some 50 years ago it was illegal for black people to go to college and the president had to send national guards to OLE MISS when it was legalized because white people were so strong in there convictions that they were right! What a joke! How many more years is this ''Jesus thing'' going to take in the South?
Another irrelavant argument that blames the failures of humanity on religion. One which white southerners(whatever their beliefs) are tired of hearing
ha ha wrote:
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People have interpreted it, translated it, studied it, learned it, hidden parts of it and turned it into what ever they want to but you still have to step off a cliff to BELIEVE THE BIBLE!
Interesting that you say "People" instead of "I". I respect your opinion and hope that you've fully studied the histories before coming up with the "stepping off a cliff conclusion". Of course; if you did this then you would know the truth for sure and could make a valid argument.
ha ha wrote:
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It was good for early civilizations because its the only way they could explain things
Early civilizations are responsible for some of the greatist feats of engineering, monumental art, culture etc, including the beginnings of the sciences you place so much of your faith in. Perhaps we can still learn things from them.
God bless all
my my

Booneville, MS

#11 Jan 4, 2013
I have noticed while reading topix today that haha is arguing on two different threads- is that what you really want to do? just argue with your warped points? You need to spend more time studying the bible and maybe you will understand more- In the meantime, you are in my prayers. Have a good day!
Resident

United States

#12 Jan 4, 2013
my my wrote:
I have noticed while reading topix today that haha is arguing on two different threads- is that what you really want to do? just argue with your warped points? You need to spend more time studying the bible and maybe you will understand more- In the meantime, you are in my prayers. Have a good day!
No that's fine. This person seems to have only experienced ridicule or bible thumpers. He needs to understand that belief in God does not require conformity. Heaven knows there are many examples in history where religion hasn't shown its most endearing qualities.

That said...it comes down to awareness of the wonderous creation that surrounds us. The ebb and flow of the cosmos. Just one big coincidence? Amenoe acids, carbons and protiens comming together in a primordial soup...please. Isn't it more logical to see an intelligent design here?

God bless all.

Since: Jul 12

Lucedale, MS

#13 Jan 4, 2013
First of all. No one really has proof about most of the things in Christianity. And look at it this way. Basically from what I know. To get into heaven you need to be a good person. Want forgiveness. And just believe in the "one true" god. How many other religions are there that only have one god? There's quite a few. And the teaching of many religions are the same. So whose to say which ones right or wrong? Most Christians, atleast the ones that I know, refuse to tolerate other religions, races, and sexual orientations. Maybe that's why more people dont believe. You follow a god that tells you not to judge yet you use it to persecute others and pretend you yourself aren't being judged
Resident

United States

#14 Jan 4, 2013
GushouNicky777 wrote:
First of all. No one really has proof about most of the things in Christianity. And look at it this way. Basically from what I know. To get into heaven you need to be a good person. Want forgiveness. And just believe in the "one true" god. How many other religions are there that only have one god? There's quite a few. And the teaching of many religions are the same. So whose to say which ones right or wrong?
Indeed! Perhaps all have basis in fact. Life is like a twisting road...wandering, curving and dividing. There are many paths for life to take. God, Jesus, Muhammed, Buddah whatever you choose to call him gives us choice. I choose to follow the teachings of Christ perhaps even without the tangible proof required by scientific conjecture. That is the path I choose and I make use of other resources then just the Council of Nicaea's decision of how to worship.
GushouNicky777 wrote:

Most Christians, atleast the ones that I know, refuse to tolerate other religions, races, and sexual orientations. Maybe that's why more people dont believe. You follow a god that tells you not to judge yet you use it to persecute others and pretend you yourself aren't being judged
A sad truth and I'm sorry that the ones you know are like that, but I assure you...all are not.

God bless all
ha ha

Ridgeland, MS

#15 Jan 5, 2013
Believe me, resident, you make up a small fraction of Christians that are willing to even hear the word,''evolution''! Maybe you just have to see it from my point of view and life experiences! I personally don't think evolution creates as many questions than answers! In fact it answers all my questions! Religion was all unanswerable questions to me and usually I got the same reply when I did question it; ''you just have to believe, have faith and don't question it! I'll pray for you!''
I never said I could specifically explain all the ''hits and miss'' details that has made us what we are today but I will NEVER believe any living or abiotic thing was created with ''divine inspiration'' or ''intelligent design''...or however you want to state it!
You gave all those credentials but do you know if Dr. Seelke is a Christian?
I only brought up how the black people were treated to prove a point about how so many people can believe something is right, when actually its wrong! You are the one that said I was blaming religion for white racists who were convinced they were right!
Were all those great feats you speak of done by Christians? I think of Rome, Italy and Egypt when I think of great feats done by early civilizations! None of them were Christians unless you count the Roman Catholics as Christian! We, as humans, do still have so much to learn from previous civilizations! I only hope we don't destroy the evidence before we have a chance to study it!
If you don't mind answering, what denomination of Christianity have you settled with? Or are you still deciding which one? Explain if the yes, please! Was there a defining moment when your god answered your prayers or did it just slowly happened to you over time?
Resident

United States

#16 Jan 5, 2013
ha ha wrote:
Believe me, resident, you make up a small fraction of Christians that are willing to even hear the word,''evolution''! Maybe you just have to see it from my point of view and life experiences! I personally don't think evolution creates as many questions than answers! In fact it answers all my questions!
It would be difficult to believe that I make up a "small fraction of Christians", unless you can honestly say you've met every Christian in the world; otherwise you're simply generalizing as you say Christians do.
Think about this and be truthful to yourself. All your questions? How far back? The Paleozoic, the Cenozoic. Or even farther to the big bang? Or are your questions answered even beyond that to Quantum Physics, Superstring theory and beyond. No my friend...your logical mind will only carry you so far before speculation,imagination lead to theory experimentaion , Ultimatly questions will keep the individual searching until faith comes into play that the answers are there.
Consider this...you already have faith (though you may not admit it). Positive faith that there is no God through scientific knowledge is a fallacy; there isn't any...yet your seeming disregard for the faith of others has left you angry. I understand from life experience as you say...why this is possible. Science is a gift from God to man. It can also be used as a tool by evil. The answer isn't to give up on religion entirely...consider it as a possibility even to the rest of your life. Keep an open mind to all possibilities. Try this prayer:
God,
I have no idea where I am going.

I do not sense the road ahead of me.
Nor do I really know myself,
And the fact that I think I am following the right path to the truth,
Does not mean that I am actually doing so.
But I believe that the desire for answers
Does in fact include you.

And I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire.
And I know that if I do this,
You will lead me by the right road
Though I may know nothing about it.

Therefore will I trust you
Though I may seem to be lost and in the shadow of death.
I will not fear, for you are with me,
And you will never leave me to face my struggles alone.
ha ha wrote:
You gave all those credentials but do you know if Dr. Seelke is a Christian?
My friend you miss the point. Would you deny Dr. Seelke is not an insightful, intelligent and open minded Scientist? What drew him to Christianity?

God bless all
lord have mercy

Booneville, MS

#17 Jan 5, 2013
haha, you are indeed twisted in the mind. i do feel sorry for you. i have read your posts on this thread as well as on another one. i do hope and pray that you will have a change of heart before your life ends. one day, every knee will bow and confess that Jesus is indeed Lord- yes, that means YOU will too. just remember, God loves all, and that means he loves you too.
God is a fairy tale

Saltillo, MS

#18 Jan 6, 2013
Resident wrote:
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It would be difficult to believe that I make up a "small fraction of Christians", unless you can honestly say you've met every Christian in the world; otherwise you're simply generalizing as you say Christians do.
Think about this and be truthful to yourself. All your questions? How far back? The Paleozoic, the Cenozoic. Or even farther to the big bang? Or are your questions answered even beyond that to Quantum Physics, Superstring theory and beyond. No my friend...your logical mind will only carry you so far before speculation,imagination lead to theory experimentaion , Ultimatly questions will keep the individual searching until faith comes into play that the answers are there.
Consider this...you already have faith (though you may not admit it). Positive faith that there is no God through scientific knowledge is a fallacy; there isn't any...yet your seeming disregard for the faith of others has left you angry. I understand from life experience as you say...why this is possible. Science is a gift from God to man. It can also be used as a tool by evil. The answer isn't to give up on religion entirely...consider it as a possibility even to the rest of your life. Keep an open mind to all possibilities. Try this prayer:
God,
I have no idea where I am going.
I do not sense the road ahead of me.
Nor do I really know myself,
And the fact that I think I am following the right path to the truth,
Does not mean that I am actually doing so.
But I believe that the desire for answers
Does in fact include you.
And I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire.
And I know that if I do this,
You will lead me by the right road
Though I may know nothing about it.
Therefore will I trust you
Though I may seem to be lost and in the shadow of death.
I will not fear, for you are with me,
And you will never leave me to face my struggles alone.
<quoted text>
My friend you miss the point. Would you deny Dr. Seelke is not an insightful, intelligent and open minded Scientist? What drew him to Christianity?
God bless all
I would also have to say that unless you too have met every single Christian in the world, who are you to say you're NOT part of a small fraction of Christians??? practice what you preach when criticizing someones generalization with your own generalization... If any of you had open minds and actually kept up with the world of science and theology, you'd find many of your statements are contradictory or and absurd. Unless every "christian" on earth believes in all the Greek, native American, Mayan, etc. gods that have ever existed, then one can not argue that they too are Atheists.... What makes your god so special??? The world of theoretical physics has proven many times that the universe and all within it didn't have to "be created" by an "all knowing creator" in order for it to be....and before you respond too quick, do your homework before you go flapping your jaws about what you do not know. Science is over stepping religion and everyone is going to have to get used to it. Science flies us to the moon, religion flies us into buildings.....

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime, give a man religion and he'll die praying for fish"...

Absence of evidence IS, in fact, evidence of absence!!
God is a fairy tale

Saltillo, MS

#19 Jan 6, 2013
"...a God who could make good children as easily a bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice, and invented hell--mouths mercy, and invented hell--mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people, and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slaves to worship him!"
-- Mark Twain
God is a fairy tale

Saltillo, MS

#20 Jan 6, 2013
Here's one for you to ponder..."Russell's Teapot Theory":

“If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes.

But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.
If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time." ~ Bertrand Russell - British mathematician and one of the founders of Modern Analytic Philosophy.

Give me your BEST (not quickly thought out which will make you look stupider than you already make yourselves to be) arguments so that I can tear them apart with cold hard facts and reasoning... OR...you can practice what you preach and stop judging the beliefs of others....(which god contradicts himself in the bible on judging others being good or bad, but anyways..)
Resident

United States

#21 Jan 6, 2013
God is a fairy tale wrote:
<quoted text> I would also have to say that unless you too have met every single Christian in the world, who are you to say you're NOT part of a small fraction of Christians???
I chose my words carefully so as not to generalize. "It would be difficult to believe," outside the scope of who I know. Just as it is difficult to belive in Russel's teapot theory; however if it had been written in ancient text and believed by millions, I would perhaps give it its due.
God is a fairy tale wrote:
<quoted text> If any of you had open minds and actually kept up with the world of science and theology, you'd find many of your statements are contradictory or and absurd.???
I have an open mind...to which statement I've made are you refering too?
God is a fairy tale wrote:
<quoted text> Unless every "christian" on earth believes in all the Greek, native American, Mayan, etc. gods that have ever existed, then one can not argue that they too are Atheists.... What makes your god so special?
That's arguing for the sake of argument since every Christian on earth doesn't believe it...hence all the different denominations. What makes God special to me, doesn't necessarily make him special to you. Would you stipulate so about the Greeks, Native Americans, Mayan etc? The word Atheist just doesn't have that air of mystery about it. It's sad because life is a mystery.
God is a fairy tale wrote:
<quoted text> The world of theoretical physics has proven many times that the universe and all within it didn't have to "be created" by an "all knowing creator" in order for it to be....and before you respond too quick, do your homework before you go flapping your jaws about what you do not know.
This is a ridiculous statement and frankly an out-and-out lie. Look Theoretical up in the dictionary. Were you choosing your words carefully when you said: "Didn't have to be created" It hasn't proven creation or evolution one way or the other. Unless you have access to some ancient technology the rest of us aren't aware of. LOL
God is a fairy tale wrote:
<quoted text> Science is over stepping religion and everyone is going to have to get used to it. Science flies us to the moon, religion flies us into buildings.
Science isn't over stepping religion...if anything it brings us closer to it. Men fly you into buildings. The rest of your statement is simply gibberish so I won't comment.

Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil, it has no point.

God bless all.

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