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#1 Jan 3, 2012
Does anyone know about the cameras being put up throughout town? I have heard they will be able to be watched by viewers online. I am worried about our privacy. Please post if you have any info on this. Thank you
Watcher

Birmingham, AL

#2 Jan 3, 2012
There are over 100 cameras being placed at various locations in town. Some are mounted on privately-owned property, such as the one on top of Tri-County Gas. It will monitor the intersection of Hwy 90 & Hwy 79. Others cameras are being placed in city-owned locations, such as the public parks. I do not know who will be able to view these cameras, but I have been told that, as of right now, the Bonifay Police Department will be the only folks with access. There are many concerns as to the legality or even the purpose of these cameras, or better yet, who is paying for them. Maybe some answers will be revealed soon.
sad

Panama City, FL

#3 Jan 3, 2012
Over 100? It seems they're going to be everywhere we turn around then. That is a little creepy to me. I have so many questions and concerns about it. Do you have any idea how it will be funded? I appreciate the information.
Observation

Argyle, FL

#4 Jan 3, 2012
1984 The book that is. George Orwell author I believe. Read it.

Who is paying for the cameras? Us the tax payer. Wonderful isn't it.

Invasion of privacy? Not in public places. Now if they put one on your property or in your house without your permission, might have a problem. But if your showing you rear in public, tuff.
sad

Panama City, FL

#5 Jan 3, 2012
Observation, it's funny you should mention the book because in my first post, I started to refer to it as "Big Brother-ish". I can understand the cameras in the parks due to vandalism, etc. and even in other public places; however, it was mentioned to me that the cameras (not sure how many) would be showing a feed which would be able to be viewed by the public via internet. That, to me, is a major concern. A hundred plus cameras in our small town sure seems like a lot...it's very interesting.
OMG

Chipley, FL

#6 Jan 3, 2012
Do you people not have aything better to do? By the way your tax dollars are not paying for the cameras. They CAN NOT be viewed online only by LAW ENFORCEMENT! It's not just bonifay its all ver the county that 100 cameras will be placed. People you need to realize that bonifay is not the only place that has these cameras! DOTHAN ALABAMA at almost every stop light, Panama City at almost every stop light its not invasion of privacy its a safety issue. Say someone was vandalizing the parks. It will b caught on camera, just like someone running a right red yes it too will b caught on camera. QUIT COMPLAINING
Meme meme

Panama City, FL

#7 Jan 3, 2012
OMG, please cite a credible reference which proves having cameras installed makes us "safer." I believe this is quite debatable. I don't think folks are able to complain yet, because we don't know the purpose of these cameras. We have a right to know how these cameras are being paid for, and more importantly, how they are being used. And furthermore, I don't care if they have red light cameras in Dothan or Panama City. That is a separate issue. I have NO problem with cameras placed in our parks and other similar places. Who knows, maybe they will help catch vandals in action. On the other hand, what if one of these cameras is placed on a public street next to my home? What if this camera, while intended to view the street, was able to view my activities in my own property? I'm not sure I like that. I'm sure that isn't the intention of this program, but who is responsible for installation? How do I know that they have adhered to the law? So, don't confuse concern and questioning with "complaining."
Time2Go

Panama City, FL

#8 Jan 3, 2012
OMG wrote:
Do you people not have aything better to do? By the way your tax dollars are not paying for the cameras. They CAN NOT be viewed online only by LAW ENFORCEMENT! It's not just bonifay its all ver the county that 100 cameras will be placed. People you need to realize that bonifay is not the only place that has these cameras! DOTHAN ALABAMA at almost every stop light, Panama City at almost every stop light its not invasion of privacy its a safety issue. Say someone was vandalizing the parks. It will b caught on camera, just like someone running a right red yes it too will b caught on camera. QUIT COMPLAINING
Red light cameras are questionable at best. I'm not sure there is any evidence that red light cameras do anything to improve safety. Some sources argue for it, others against.

The cameras in and around Bonifay, however, are not "red light cameras," so their purpose must be aimed at something different.

I would like to know where the cameras are placed, and who can view the footage. I'm glad to hear that they won't cost the taxpayers anything, if this is true. But if they are placed in public or city/county owned locations, then I would assume the citizens would be informed of their purpose.
OMG

Chipley, FL

#9 Jan 3, 2012
A local computer company is donating all the cameras etc! Their purpose is to allow people to login and see what's going on just like wjhg's tower cam. Some of the cameras are to prevent vandalism.Not all cameras are public but they are not costing the tax payers money
Time2Go

Panama City, FL

#10 Jan 3, 2012
OMG wrote:
A local computer company is donating all the cameras etc! Their purpose is to allow people to login and see what's going on just like wjhg's tower cam. Some of the cameras are to prevent vandalism.Not all cameras are public but they are not costing the tax payers money
Most of that seems pretty harmless. I hope they can be utilized to catch vandals. But I also prefer that the public be made aware that there are cameras watching. For example, place a sign at the park that states cameras are monitoring the premises. I think this would be fair to the honest citizen, it would deter the ones who are thinking of committing a crime, and the camera would catch the ones that are too stupid to heed the warning.
Wow

Wayzata, MN

#11 Jan 8, 2012
Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both- Ben Franklin
Just Saying

Panama City, FL

#12 Jan 8, 2012
Wow wrote:
Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both- Ben Franklin
I would say your saying those who vandalize public property should have the liberty too do so! I suppose you think all people who have cameras at their homes and businesses should remove them because they are sacrificeing their liberties! BS, Get a life! Ben Franklin didn't have to deal with meth heads and dopers that people deal with today! You do away with cameras and security lights, you might as well do away with everything, because if you do,someone will either still it or destroy it, just that simple. Just Saying!
Just Saying

Panama City, FL

#13 Jan 9, 2012
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>I would say your saying those who vandalize public property should have the liberty too do so! I suppose you think all people who have cameras at their homes and businesses should remove them because they are sacrificeing their liberties! BS, Get a life! Ben Franklin didn't have to deal with meth heads and dopers that people deal with today! You do away with cameras and security lights, you might as well do away with everything, because if you do,someone will either still it or destroy it, just that simple. Just Saying!
OOPS, that should be steal, not still.Just Saying.
Tony B

Birmingham, AL

#14 Jan 9, 2012
...and where is the evidence or documentation that these cameras do ANYTHING to make us more secure or safe? Spin it how you want, and justify it however you wish. I can see this spinning itself into Bonifay having red-light cameras one day, which is nothing more than a revenue-provider. It WILL NOT make you safer.
Just Saying

Chipley, FL

#15 Jan 9, 2012
Tony B wrote:
...and where is the evidence or documentation that these cameras do ANYTHING to make us more secure or safe? Spin it how you want, and justify it however you wish. I can see this spinning itself into Bonifay having red-light cameras one day, which is nothing more than a revenue-provider. It WILL NOT make you safer.
"Tony B" if you don't run a red light, you don't have anything to worry about, but if someone runs a red light and kills someone in your family, I'm sure you would like to know. I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with anyone's privacy! JUST SAYING,IF SOMEONE BREAKS THE LAW THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY!!!!!
Wow

United States

#16 Jan 9, 2012
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>"Tony B" if you don't run a red light, you don't have anything to worry about, but if someone runs a red light and kills someone in your family, I'm sure you would like to know. I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with anyone's privacy! JUST SAYING,IF SOMEONE BREAKS THE LAW THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY!!!!!
The more we allow the government whether local or on a larger level take away our privacies and freedoms so they can "protects us more", the further we divulge ourselves into a communistic style government. Why not allow the government to read everyone of your e mails to make sure you aren't committing any crimes? Oh wait, they already can thanks to the patriot act. It may not be such a bad thing for the cameras to be put up, but it is a bad thing to allow the government and police more and more control over our daily lives. Ben Franklin may not have had to deal with Meth heads and drug dealers, but he did have to deal with conspirators and anti federalists trying to bring down our government. I can educate you quite a bit on it if you like. The fact of the matter is, the government shouldn't be at such a high level as it is. Have you ever heard of the case of the man who built a dock on his private property without a permit and had to pay to tear it down, pay for a permit, pay for the goverment to check its safety, and then pay to rebuild it. That my friend, should outrage you as an American. Allowing things like cameras to watch your every move is just paving the way for things like that. Say the camera catches you not wearing your seatbelt, what's to stop the police from tagging a ticket to your license plate? You should read the book 1984, its a pretty good reference for what is happening in America.
Tony B

Panama City, FL

#17 Jan 9, 2012
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>"Tony B" if you don't run a red light, you don't have anything to worry about, but if someone runs a red light and kills someone in your family, I'm sure you would like to know. I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with anyone's privacy! JUST SAYING,IF SOMEONE BREAKS THE LAW THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY!!!!!
Not much logic I this statement.
Tony B

Panama City, FL

#18 Jan 9, 2012
Not much logic in this statement. Sorry about the typo. If someone runs a red light and kills my family, they will most likely pay. A camera has never been necessary to accomplish that. Just keep on swallowing a little of this crap at a time. Eventually you will have no privacy anywhere, not even at home. But I guess we will be "safer."
myself

Ponce De Leon, FL

#19 Feb 18, 2012
OMG wrote:
A local computer company is donating all the cameras etc! Their purpose is to allow people to login and see what's going on just like wjhg's tower cam. Some of the cameras are to prevent vandalism.Not all cameras are public but they are not costing the tax payers money
I can't believe you want us to believe a computer company is donating all of the cameras. I have installed cameras for others as well as myself. They are VERY costly! If thease are "IP" cameras (or even wireless) you are looking at anywhere from $260.00 to as much as $1200.00 each depending on how much each can do. Then you have the cost of installing each one unless people are now working for free. 30 cheap cameras would cost over $10,000.00 with install. I know I am not the only person not believing they are a gift. I would like to see the bill posted in the local newspaper as this "is" paid for by the people.
ive heard it all

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#20 Feb 18, 2012
OMG wrote:
Do you people not have aything better to do? By the way your tax dollars are not paying for the cameras. They CAN NOT be viewed online only by LAW ENFORCEMENT! It's not just bonifay its all ver the county that 100 cameras will be placed. People you need to realize that bonifay is not the only place that has these cameras! DOTHAN ALABAMA at almost every stop light, Panama City at almost every stop light its not invasion of privacy its a safety issue. Say someone was vandalizing the parks. It will b caught on camera, just like someone running a right red yes it too will b caught on camera. QUIT COMPLAINING
blah blah blah lah........ well i guess we wont have to pay the officers anymore since the cameras will be doing their job.

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