Active Thread to Remove Zeb Brown as ...
MAC

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#61 Aug 7, 2011
Im afraid we jumped the gun on this one. A large part of this debate claims that Mr. Brown has no experience. Please explain to me how he would earn that experience without an administrative position. Give him a shot. As far as I am concerned, this is a new venue for Mr. Brown. If it be that he fails, so be it, you have already fed him to the wolves. However, I feel that we should keep our leaders in prayer. To the shot at Mr.Dixon previously, he brought something to his position to which a lot of administrators cannot attest to, the wisdom of a full life and a heart filled with encouragement for the discouraged student. Now we have Zeb and we want to strike him with pessimistic slander. Who knows what he will bring to the table? Lets see what happens.
the troller

Lynn Haven, FL

#62 Aug 7, 2011
concerned wrote:
I am NO ONE'S tool, as you appear to be Mr. Brown's personal Savior! I am posting this for the good of the community not for myself or any single person. I know the facts. Mr. Brown threatened a lawsuit to get a position. AGAIN!!!!FACT!!!!HE HAS NO ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE. HE COULD NOT RUN A CLASSROOM. NOW YOU EXPECT HIM TO RUN AN ENTIRE SCHOOL??? REALLY IS THAT THE ANSWER Our Week minded County Leaders folded and now they have got just what they deserve, a total investigation on how this county operates. Headed up by me. I promise you when Monday morning rolls around I am headed strait to the commissioner of education. The corruption, the lawsuit threats, and the Holmes County good-ole boy system will be investigated. This I promise to you. It is not Personal To Mr. Brown. You should have paid your dues and done things the right way like so many others before you have done. Oh BTW the "I am going to Sue" threats from Mr Brown are as real as they come. I just chose not to publicly name 3 maybe 4 different people that was in room when he made the threats. Sorry Believe what you will. I am basing everything I write on this blog on pure fact and no fiction. Sorry to disappoint you. As far as you are concerned "I am not going to keep reading this trash goes", I keep hearing it, now just do us all a favor and quit reading it and posting back :)
My campaign is not mud slinging or rock throwing just the real reporting of the facts that I am aware of. If I need to provide proof when the time comes I will do so. Trust me if I wanted to bash on someone I have heard lots of things that I could post but I do not operate that way.
All I have read on here is you are quoting what you have been told. The commissioner of education will laugh you out of his office if all you have is hear say evidence. Hear say evidence is inadmissable in a court of law, so I am quite sure it would be insufficient evidence to investigat the holmes county school system.

Have a nice day in Tallahassee and tell gov Scott hello from holmes county
concerned

Crestview, FL

#63 Aug 8, 2011
To, Mac. Admin Experience is earned as a principal in training or maybe a vice principal? Not by saying, "I am going to Sue you", to get what I want :)
To the troller, I have sworn statements and not hear say. Please don't insult my inteligence. Just because I will not out my sources on here doesn't mean that I do not have cold hard facts.
On that note I will have a great day in Tallahassee. Has anyone ever concidered that Mr Brown was set up to fail by someone? Threaten to sue, get what you want, then watch you self-destruct?
saddened

Niceville, FL

#64 Aug 8, 2011
I am saddened by all this. We can agree that there needs to be improvement or change of some type. mr Dixon was the principal we needed at the time. Someone to care to love our children and listen to us parents. He was great. But Mr Brown may be great in his own time too. He seems real different than when he taught here before. With all the fussing and hatefulness maybe yall should put your focus on improving your self for the job at hand and working with him not against him. I dont have a degree but i'm smart enough to know that nobdy can succeed without help. So help.
concerned

Crestview, FL

#65 Aug 8, 2011
saddened wrote:
I am saddened by all this. We can agree that there needs to be improvement or change of some type. mr Dixon was the principal we needed at the time. Someone to care to love our children and listen to us parents. He was great. But Mr Brown may be great in his own time too. He seems real different than when he taught here before. With all the fussing and hatefulness maybe yall should put your focus on improving your self for the job at hand and working with him not against him. I dont have a degree but i'm smart enough to know that nobdy can succeed without help. So help.
Sorry but a cold hard fact is that MR. Brown did not listen to Parents and Students when he was a teacher, so what make you think that he will listen to Parents, Students, teachers, Staff or anyone else that needs a leader? I will repeat one more time. He has the education, he has the degree (not a Doctorate like earlier stated) but enough to hold the position as principal. The fact is HE GOT THE JOB BY THREATS OF A LAWSUIT, IF HE DID NOT GET THE POSITION THAT HE WANTED AND HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE WORKING UNDER A PRINCIPAL OR AS AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL. He should have applied for the job differently? Just stating facts facts facts facts. What more do you want. The problem starts at the Supers Office and sh*t rolls down hill :)
the troller

Lynn Haven, FL

#66 Aug 8, 2011
concerned wrote:
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Sorry but a cold hard fact is that MR. Brown did not listen to Parents and Students when he was a teacher, so what make you think that he will listen to Parents, Students, teachers, Staff or anyone else that needs a leader? I will repeat one more time. He has the education, he has the degree (not a Doctorate like earlier stated) but enough to hold the position as principal. The fact is HE GOT THE JOB BY THREATS OF A LAWSUIT, IF HE DID NOT GET THE POSITION THAT HE WANTED AND HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE WORKING UNDER A PRINCIPAL OR AS AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL. He should have applied for the job differently? Just stating facts facts facts facts. What more do you want. The problem starts at the Supers Office and sh*t rolls down hill :)
How did things go in Tallahassee today?
wildcatter

Niceville, FL

#67 Aug 9, 2011
concerned wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry but a cold hard fact is that MR. Brown did not listen to Parents and Students when he was a teacher, so what make you think that he will listen to Parents, Students, teachers, Staff or anyone else that needs a leader? I will repeat one more time. He has the education, he has the degree (not a Doctorate like earlier stated) but enough to hold the position as principal. The fact is HE GOT THE JOB BY THREATS OF A LAWSUIT, IF HE DID NOT GET THE POSITION THAT HE WANTED AND HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE WORKING UNDER A PRINCIPAL OR AS AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL. He should have applied for the job differently? Just stating facts facts facts facts. What more do you want. The problem starts at the Supers Office and sh*t rolls down hill :)
I dont beleive you at all. I dont beleve he got it by threating. We already lost Mrs Raper the greatest person to listen to parents ever, and then Miss Lolly who didnt do nothing but try with kids as hared as she could, like my kid and she tried to get the best out of them. maybe you people should do your job as teachers and quit running your mouth. Theres problems in that school so give him a chance to do something which is better than sitting there griping.
JANIE

Fort Walton Beach, FL

#68 Aug 9, 2011
reality wrote:
If you want a professional pay one. No one who works in Holmes County makes even close to what other counties pay. So we wind up with someone who makes poor decisions. All that can be done now is sit back and watch the train wreck.
I TOOK MY CHILD OUT OF THAT SCHOOL UNDER DICKSON. HE WAS AN ABOMINATION AND KISS ASS. GO ZEB!!!
life

Bonifay, FL

#69 Aug 9, 2011
maybe yall should do some investigation into what your typing before you do it. If you would have then you would know that he has been doing jerry dixons job before he was even considered for the position. Are you mad that zeb brown got the job or that the person you wanted to get it didn't. Its time for change, not for the benifit of the ones who are teaching there but for the students who are attending bethlehem. Zeb Brown will provide that change so that the students of bethlehem will benifit regaurdless of the critisiam he has to endure. as far as the poor decisions zeb has made i know of only a few where most of us make many "some times god puts us on our knees to remind us to look up" Zeb is going to do the right thing with bethlehem, not what is popular but what is right.
disagreed

Niceville, FL

#70 Aug 9, 2011
I don't a gree with that at all about Mr Dixon. he was a good principal and I think Mr Brown will be too. Whoever the fool is who said he was an abomination must be a idiot.
outander

Niceville, FL

#71 Aug 9, 2011
SOS-Same Ole wrote:
Zeb, nephu of long time ex-principle of Bethlehem, Odel Paul who works at the GAP with The real super of HDSB...Jean West......not hard to figger...anything gotta be better than dickson
Yall need to get off Jeans case because everything that happens aint her fault. and i always liked dixon.
Observer

Chipley, FL

#72 Aug 9, 2011
outander wrote:
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Yall need to get off Jeans case because everything that happens aint her fault. and i always liked dixon.
No, but her way of dealing with people and her abrasive stlye reflect badly on the superintendent. I suppose it doesn't bother him. She would deny playing favorites, but she does.
employee

Niceville, FL

#73 Aug 9, 2011
She does seem to favor those hwo work hard and mind their own busines. dang thats terrible.
dirtdigger

Argyle, FL

#74 Aug 9, 2011
concerned why dont you get a life.do you not understand that brown is going to be boss at bhs for this year so why dont you let the man do his job.and i think you are a woman and cant do nothing about it.
concerned

Crestview, FL

#75 Aug 10, 2011
I've sat back for a day and let people say what they will. To the Troller, meeting in Tallahassee was just to make an appointment to state my concern to the commissioner, paperwork had to be submitted back up some facts, sources had to be checked and finally I got a call back telling when the meeting was going to take place. So to answer your questions yes the meeting was very successful and no one laughed me out of their office. The meeting in Tallahassee was not just directed at Mr. Brown (although they thought that his threats to sue, to get a job was very unprofessional) but directed at the whole Holmes County School System. Really why does everybody up in the Holmes County Super's Office and School Principals need the taxpayers to pay for their cell phones? Can't you pay for your own? I do! Employees can't get a raise but (Upper Management if you can call them that) can have free cell service. So there are many issues being addressed.
Dirtdigger how bout go bury yourself your a fool or either the non-Christian side of Mr. Brown. Really I hope others don't figure out that you are posting under several different names on here. I can tell by some of the posts exactly who you are. It is almost like you have a split personality this really concerns me that you deal with children. Once again admin experience for principals is EARNED by assistant principal positions, or principal in training programs, maybe even make him the principal at that GAP school for a little experience. Point being is, the opportunity to advance the right way was there, but he made Threats To Sue I am going to Sue I AM GOING TO SUE IF I DON'T GET WHAT I WANT, I am Filing a Lawsuit!!! Give me what I want, and personally I hate that. So that is my personal grievance with Mr. Brown. Funny thing is I know this for an absolute fact, because someone got so tired of hearing him say it, they taped one of his "I am gonna Sue" rants on their cell phone and now it has made it's way to me. I am male not female for you out there trying to figure out who I am. Soon enough you will all find out. As for what I do to earn my living all I will say at this time, is that I keep people informed by FACT FINDING. I am not a teacher nor do I work for the School System
Another BHS Mom

Wayzata, MN

#76 Aug 10, 2011
These comments are the very reason our school has such a bad name and reputation in the county and surrounding counties as well. It's obvious from reading these posts that things will never change. It's sad to hear past students of BHS say they will not allow there children to attend school here because it's all in "who you know" and never about education. Let's ask ourselves, How many scholarships are awarded to our students on academics? AND how well do our guidance counselors monitor our children's grades to help assist them in pursuing their education after graduation? How many of our teachers working for the betterment of our future generation or just for a pay check? I feel we do have some there but we also have some that need to leave the drama at home, the "clicks" at home, or just stay at home. This is all very very sad!
concerned

Crestview, FL

#77 Aug 10, 2011
Another BHS Mom wrote:
These comments are the very reason our school has such a bad name and reputation in the county and surrounding counties as well. It's obvious from reading these posts that things will never change. It's sad to hear past students of BHS say they will not allow there children to attend school here because it's all in "who you know" and never about education. Let's ask ourselves, How many scholarships are awarded to our students on academics? AND how well do our guidance counselors monitor our children's grades to help assist them in pursuing their education after graduation? How many of our teachers working for the betterment of our future generation or just for a pay check? I feel we do have some there but we also have some that need to leave the drama at home, the "clicks" at home, or just stay at home. This is all very very sad!
It is obvious that you cannot comprehend what you read. Maybe you need to go back to high school and freshen up on your comprehension skills. This thread is about 2 concerns. Let me once again be real clear for you and spell it out. You are brining up other areas that may need to be looked into. This is the first mention that I have heard of this. You can bet I will look into it because it is my job to investigate a topic and report my findings
1. Qualification to be a high school principal. Work experience in the field under proper leadership. Not the threats to Sue or File a Lawsuit to get what you want!
2. Corruption at the county level in our schools system (the good-ole-boy plan). Side-stepping issues. Legally I will not comment further on that until, I have my meeting with the Commissioner. If and when it is investigated by their office, Only then will I publish my findings. You can make a lot of wrong doing disappear when you know you are up to being investigated
If you are concerned with "Who I am" and you can't figure it out by this post really go back to school. I have now spelled out my job description for you.
Another BHS Mom

Wayzata, MN

#78 Aug 10, 2011
To Concerned: my post/comment was directed to the remarks in general NOT what y'all are arguing about. The discussion alone is what aids in giving BHS a bad name. My comprehension skills are excellent - you started a discussion BEFORE you have all the facts whether they are warranted or not! It is the forum that disgusts me. If you are disgruntled with the decision that was made regarding the school boards decision, you really need to take it to the next school board meeting rather than start a mud slinging match on here. This forum isn't going to solve anything no matter what the subject/complaint is. Again, it's discussions/conversation held in this manner that gives BHS a bad name. Everyone should be working for the betterment of our school and education of our students! That includes: faculty, staff, parents, and students alike. BTW, this is just my second post so please don't assume I'm someone else on here.
concerned

Crestview, FL

#79 Aug 10, 2011
Another BHS Mom wrote:
To Concerned: my post/comment was directed to the remarks in general NOT what y'all are arguing about. The discussion alone is what aids in giving BHS a bad name. My comprehension skills are excellent - you started a discussion BEFORE you have all the facts whether they are warranted or not! It is the forum that disgusts me. If you are disgruntled with the decision that was made regarding the school boards decision, you really need to take it to the next school board meeting rather than start a mud slinging match on here. This forum isn't going to solve anything no matter what the subject/complaint is. Again, it's discussions/conversation held in this manner that gives BHS a bad name. Everyone should be working for the betterment of our school and education of our students! That includes: faculty, staff, parents, and students alike. BTW, this is just my second post so please don't assume I'm someone else on here.
I promise you one thing, My post raises awareness and I have done no mud slinging or name calling. I have just stated facts. I will prove all the facts this I promise, soon you and everyone else can read all about them. This one is going to make Headlines. The facts however will not be displayed on this site, at least not before it is all public knowledge. Read this how you will, I am not trying to destroy anyone just make them acknowledge that they have gone about things the wrong way from the county office down to Mr Brown. I would welcome him to accept a Vice Principal Position, Gap Principal, or a Principal Training Program. Then and Only then I wish him the best. I hate the county office chose him for their fall guy. He has no one blame but himself for pushing the Super's Office with threats of a Lawsuit and publicly bragging about it. Threat don't always payoff in the long haul Mr. Brown. It may have earned you your position but lets see if your bosses set you up? I suspect that they have indeed!!!
concerned as well

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#80 Aug 10, 2011
First of all this has been a long time coming for Holmes County. I just hate the fact that a young man is putting all of his hardwork on the line just to be the fall guy for what is about to happen. I too have concerns about the inexperience, but I know Mr. Brown personally and I do feel that he is going to put the students first.BUT..... How long can he buck the system against his "people of authority" of doing what is right, before he is taken down? That is the big question. I totally feel that as far as education goes he is at the front of the line, again my concern as well as many others is the lack of experience. What happened to the principal training program that was once in place in Holmes County. It is so hard to find a qualified candidate that the entire training program was thrown out the window??? Poor management at the county level is going to hurt the schools, teachers, and students more than one really understands. Education is suppose to be what is best for the students,to meet their specific needs, but the so called leaders that we have are robbing the students of that very thing. Again, I am not a Mr. Brown basher or follower, just someone that has a very strong interest in what is about the happen to a very good school and I worry to what effect it will have on the students.

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