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sad_day_for_kids

Emory, TX

#1 Nov 9, 2011
Another bond package voted down..........how sad for the children of Bonham ISD. It seems that the old folks here in Fannin County dont really care about the kids here. They just seem to care about their precious tax rate. The real unfortunate part is that the State will come here and realize that the schools here are not safe for children to be in. They will see the leaking roofs and eventually the black mold that the moisture causes. Kids will be out more and more due to illness. Thats ok though......our tax rates are low. Oh and what about the State coming in and finding ASBESTOS......? Yes, ASBESTOS is in the buildings.....the older ones at least. Its showing. Go look. Thankfully, I dont live in Bonham anymore. I moved my kids to another school. So why do I care? I guess I shouldnt since I dont live in town anymore. However, I am not like the masses of "old schoolers" here. I care about the kids. They are our future, and will take care of me when I am old. Now I dont know if the bond package was the right amount or the right projects exactly....but people, something has to be done. The facilities here are horrible and YOU should be ashamed. I guess it is no different than in the business world. EVERYONE WANTS SOMETHING FOR NOTHING. Things cost money. Things arent free. Education IS NOT free. Pull your heads out and fix the problems.
fannin county

Texarkana, TX

#2 Nov 9, 2011
its definitely sad... to me its unbelievable though.. i could see this happening in Cuba or Haiti, but in Texas?? Seriously...

the bond could be free and fannin county would vote it down.

the state could pay bonham to fix the school and a handful of retards would still vote no..

o well, next election isnt that far away!!!
Be Serious

Texarkana, TX

#3 Nov 9, 2011
I voted for the bond so I'll get that straight right off. But.. when the bond didn't pass earlier why would you turn right around and try again only this time making it more expensive than the last. Does not make sense to me.
Well
#4 Nov 9, 2011
Democracy...How does it work??
sad_day_for_kids

Emory, TX

#5 Nov 9, 2011
No the next election isnt that far away and I hope the school board fires right back at the voters......

Mr. Be serious, I agree with you that it didnt make sense that this bond would be higher than last time however, with every passing day as the economy begins to turn around, supplies and labor costs go up. This issue wont get cheaper. It would be easy to reduce the number of issues that need attention, but those issues would still be there.

And Mr. Well, yes, this was democracy. I agree with that too but that doesnt change the fact that voters here are ignorant and seem to not care about kids. That is my issue, not the fact that it was voted down.
VOTE YES

Texarkana, TX

#6 Nov 9, 2011
Be Serious wrote:
I voted for the bond so I'll get that straight right off. But.. when the bond didn't pass earlier why would you turn right around and try again only this time making it more expensive than the last. Does not make sense to me.
regardless, the bond could be free and it would be voted down.
why

Sherman, TX

#7 Nov 9, 2011
Be Serious wrote:
I voted for the bond so I'll get that straight right off. But.. when the bond didn't pass earlier why would you turn right around and try again only this time making it more expensive than the last. Does not make sense to me.
This bond was more expensive because they added a UIL size stage and an Ag barn at BHS because there were many students, teachers and parents who came to the meetings and pointed out how the theater, band, choir and ag kids need adequate space for their education. The other reason this bond was more expensive is because the cost of materials went up 3%. At Evans alone, the materials increase was estimated at around $200,000.
and

Texarkana, TX

#8 Nov 9, 2011
why wrote:
<quoted text> This bond was more expensive because they added a UIL size stage and an Ag barn at BHS because there were many students, teachers and parents who came to the meetings and pointed out how the theater, band, choir and ag kids need adequate space for their education. The other reason this bond was more expensive is because the cost of materials went up 3%. At Evans alone, the materials increase was estimated at around $200,000.
and the costs will continue to be higher. let us know when the next vote is please
Another Fannin Co person

Emory, TX

#9 Nov 9, 2011
Sad Day,
I, for one, do not appreciate being called an ignorant voter. You also don't make sense when you say you are upset about us that said No that we don't care about children and not because the bond was voted down, then, turn right around and say you hope the school board fires right back at the voters! What?? People that voted yes are voters too.
You do not know me so how can you accuse me of not caring about kids? I do care, that is one reason why I did vote no. They are going to have enough to pay for from the mess this country is in now and so will their children. Quit spending more than you can handle.
sad_day_for_kids

Emory, TX

#10 Nov 9, 2011
Yes you are another Fannin County person who voted no..........I apologize if this offends you. This is a forum and I dont pretend to want all of the viewers to be happy. This bond is and has been a well thought out process more than once. These kids deserve a better place to learn. They should not have to tolerate mold, asbestos, or anything else.

Clearly this is my opinion.........and further, my opinion is that you dont care about the kids in fannin county. At some point these buildings will have to be remodeled or worse, replaced. Someone, even these children, will have to cough up the dollars to pay for it. It isnt an opinion about the situation, IT IS REALITY.

My question to you Fannin Co Person is this.........where will these children be educated when the State closes these buildings due to being unsafe? My opinion is that you are ignorant as a voter..........again (sorry of that stings.) IF you dont like the bond issue, get involved and help find a PROPER solution. That is the answer.

Finally, if any of the voters who voted yes for my comments were offended I apologize. My comments were only "fired" at the ones who voted no.
That

Emory, TX

#11 Nov 9, 2011
Another Fannin Co person wrote:
Sad Day,
I, for one, do not appreciate being called an ignorant voter. You also don't make sense when you say you are upset about us that said No that we don't care about children and not because the bond was voted down, then, turn right around and say you hope the school board fires right back at the voters! What?? People that voted yes are voters too.
You do not know me so how can you accuse me of not caring about kids? I do care, that is one reason why I did vote no. They are going to have enough to pay for from the mess this country is in now and so will their children. Quit spending more than you can handle.
Please let us refrain from labeling those that voted NO on the bond as IGNORANT, as I don't think that is helpful nor fully accurate. I do believe, however, that stating they are selfish, self centered, and short sighted is a more apt and accurate depiction. Don't you DARE take THEIR weekend Choctow Casino and Cigarette money away to pay for someone else's education.
Be Serious

Texarkana, TX

#12 Nov 9, 2011
why wrote:
<quoted text> This bond was more expensive because they added a UIL size stage and an Ag barn at BHS because there were many students, teachers and parents who came to the meetings and pointed out how the theater, band, choir and ag kids need adequate space for their education. The other reason this bond was more expensive is because the cost of materials went up 3%. At Evans alone, the materials increase was estimated at around $200,000.
You just made my point. When it could not pass earlier why were other things added to make it more expensive? Should have been looking for ways to cut the cost. Reminder: I voted yes.
why

Boise, ID

#13 Nov 9, 2011
Be Serious wrote:
<quoted text>
You just made my point. When it could not pass earlier why were other things added to make it more expensive? Should have been looking for ways to cut the cost. Reminder: I voted yes.
The folks that came to the meetings made a compelling case for the need for a stage and a ag barn. There was much serious debate about perhaps just doing Evans or giving voters a choice on Evans and a separate choice on BHS. If we did go with Evans now, then the question was, how much longer before we could get another bond passed for BHS? Also, with interest rates and construction costs currently being so low, the consensus of the group was that if we wait til later to fix BHS, it will cost us all more in the long run, as the bond interest rates and construction costs will continue to go up.
VOTE YES

Texarkana, TX

#14 Nov 9, 2011
Another Fannin Co person wrote:
Sad Day,
I, for one, do not appreciate being called an ignorant voter. You also don't make sense when you say you are upset about us that said No that we don't care about children and not because the bond was voted down, then, turn right around and say you hope the school board fires right back at the voters! What?? People that voted yes are voters too.
You do not know me so how can you accuse me of not caring about kids? I do care, that is one reason why I did vote no. They are going to have enough to pay for from the mess this country is in now and so will their children. Quit spending more than you can handle.
im sorry u are so offended. lets just watch as the schools fall to the ground, the kids will understand that we did it for them
Devin Robertson

Kirksville, MO

#15 Nov 9, 2011
sad_day_for_kids wrote:
My question to you Fannin Co Person is this.........where will these children be educated when the State closes these buildings due to being unsafe?
Is that a veiled threat that children will be tossed out into the streets to become little waifs-of-the-alley's and dirty gutter-urchins from 8AM-3PM??

BISD needs to live within their means, and their given budget, just like us ordinary citizens.
and

Texarkana, TX

#16 Nov 9, 2011
Devin Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that a veiled threat that children will be tossed out into the streets to become little waifs-of-the-alley's and dirty gutter-urchins from 8AM-3PM??
BISD needs to live within their means, and their given budget, just like us ordinary citizens.
or we could legalize alcohol sales and do something that fannin county hasnt done in 100 years, NOT SUCK, but then again that would be the smart thing to do, and we know that goes against the number one rule here... keep sucking
Disagree

Texarkana, TX

#17 Nov 9, 2011
why wrote:
<quoted text>
The folks that came to the meetings made a compelling case for the need for a stage and a ag barn. There was much serious debate about perhaps just doing Evans or giving voters a choice on Evans and a separate choice on BHS. If we did go with Evans now, then the question was, how much longer before we could get another bond passed for BHS? Also, with interest rates and construction costs currently being so low, the consensus of the group was that if we wait til later to fix BHS, it will cost us all more in the long run, as the bond interest rates and construction costs will continue to go up.
You can talk about people making a compelling case all you want but if it wasn't going to be approved by a majority of the voters than it was all in vain, higher construction costs, interest rates, etc. This YES voter again believes school board should have tried to make the no voters happy since they already had the yes votes.
what

Trenton, TX

#18 Nov 9, 2011
Devin Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that a veiled threat that children will be tossed out into the streets to become little waifs-of-the-alley's and dirty gutter-urchins from 8AM-3PM??
BISD needs to live within their means, and their given budget, just like us ordinary citizens.
I commend you on being completely debt free. No loans for a car? No mortgage loan? You are probably in the top 1% of Fannin County without any debt. The school is essentially asking to take out a loan to purchase adequate housing for the children. Yes, the citizens are the 'owners' if you will. Some people are proud to maintain a nice environment and some don't mind living in filth and disarray. This is evident if you just take a little fieldtrip around the city. Look at buisness's around town. Do they keep a neat appearance? Are they inviting to the customer? Look at some of the homes in the neighborhoods. Some are rotting to the ground, siding falling off, drafty windows.(This may be the person who complained that they could not pay their bills some months). Some people invest effort into keeping a nice place.

Yes, over the years, the school has gone downhill. Most buildings, with that much traffic, do not have an infinate lifespan without major renovations. We have come to the point that those renovations are needed. Some seem to want to hold the kids and the current administration/school board hostage for past indiscretions of former administrations/school boards.

If you want to make the argument that the higher taxes would have a detrimental effect on you life, then I could respect your argument although I think someone living in a 100k home should be able to find an extra $200 throughout the year. Holding current administrations/school boards accountable for previous leaders' misdeeds is clearly ignorance at it's finest and those I would claim are selfish at best.
Really

Sherman, TX

#19 Nov 9, 2011
I am not old. But I am not stupid.We win.
yes voter man

Texarkana, TX

#20 Nov 9, 2011
Really wrote:
I am not old. But I am not stupid.We win.
I'm not old, but I'm not stupid. We win. did u go 2 bonham? i can tell. its shake n bake and u helped.. DUMMY

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