Rick Mimms. Drew's Ex Friend.

[Hide-n-Seek]

I'm curious what you think of him.
He's been Drews friend since 1980. 28 years!
and now he's selling pictures to the enquirer.
He claims that Drew threaten to take him as a hostage if needed. Where is the friendship here?
Rick sounds like a loser. He owes $40,000 in back child support, and I think he knows what happened to Stacy.
I went to school with Rick. He was a wannabe.
He just never fit in. He tried the jocks, the preppies, even the burnouts. He was better off just staying with the nerds. Ever since I've known him, he's tried to be noticed.
I think this is what he's been waiting for.
And I would'nt put to much in what he has to say.

[-Plainfield Mom -]

Hide-n-Seek wrote:

I'm curious what you think of him.
He's been Drews friend since 1980. 28 years!
and now he's selling pictures to the enquirer.
He claims that Drew threaten to take him as a hostage if needed. Where is the friendship here?
Rick sounds like a loser. He owes $40,000 in back child support, and I think he knows what happened to Stacy.
I went to school with Rick. He was a wannabe.
He just never fit in. He tried the jocks, the preppies, even the burnouts. He was better off just staying with the nerds. Ever since I've known him, he's tried to be noticed.
I think this is what he's been waiting for.
And I would'nt put to much in what he has to say.

Well, I think Ric gives truth to the old addage "With friends like you, who needs enemies?".

[STANFORD]

Hi nice PM

heard a few day's ago on CNN that Drew was bothering his neighbors...is this what you are referring to, is he hassling more of them

one thing i find odd is that no other women are comming out of the woodwork claiming Drew was playing them...not like Stacy with the steamy text messages...Drew just does not behave like a guy who has killed his wife(s), most would be hunkered down behind their lawyers

[STANFORD]

this Rick looked flackey from day one, however, if Drew is the master manipulator, this Rick would be the type of guy he woul play

[orphanannie]

STANFORD wrote:

Hi nice PM
heard a few day's ago on CNN that Drew was bothering his neighbors...is this what you are referring to, is he hassling more of them
one thing i find odd is that no other women are comming out of the woodwork claiming Drew was playing them...not like Stacy with the steamy text messages...Drew just does not behave like a guy who has killed his wife(s), most would be hunkered down behind their lawyers

we do not know for sure IF those text messages were 'generated' by Stacy, nor do we know if ANYONE texted her back legitimately....we only know what DREW and his motor mouth attorney says....since we have had no less than three supposed sitings of Stacy with letters in DREW's mailbox, it isn't too much of a stretch to think that the text messages found on a phone with a NEW SIM card was planted.....just like the letters and alleged photos....she traded phones and SIM cards with her step son....the text message was found on HIS phone by DREW....
now....here's a question:
WHY WOULDN'T HE TURN THAT OVER TO THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY TO CLEAR HIMSELF, BEINGS THAT HE CLAIMS TO BE SO INNOCENT....RATHER THAN RUN TO HIS LAWYER WITH IT...
the phone message could have been from ANYONE....
since we don't REALLY have the confirmed records with accompanying fingerprints, it cannot be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that those messages were generated by STacy....
while you, along with dots, continue to paint both Stacy and K. Savio as sluts,( I assume to deflect a lesser disdain for Drew) it only shows how lame your argument is!
1) blaming the victim is a dumb idea, juries are smarter than that
2)doing so makes Drew look more guilty, because it IMPLIES there is something to hide or protect....
3)it wouldn't matter if she got around more than the town bicycle, her 'disappearance' and K. Savio's death were not deserved....
4)Stacy did not willingly 'run away with another man'....there is NO evidence to prove that cockamamie theory....
there is however a PILE of evidence from MANY sources to support that she was INTENDING TO DIVORCE DREW...
for someone who had much more to gain monetarily by staying, it is unlikely she just 'ran off'....
she was in a very POWERFUL position to gain over one half of all of Drew's pension, and one half of the marital assets, plus child support and alimony....she would have been very well set by divorcing him.....(this was just the position K. Savio was in just before she was murdered....think about that!)
Drew does not share his toys well with ANYONE....
in my book, this is a strong case for motive....even more so, than a 'cheating' one.....money and greed is what makes Drew's world turn.

[orphanannie]

as for rick mims...
every narcissist needs a groupie...
they love to be followed around by weak minded people who are wishy washy, and cannot make a stand on anything....because this makes it MUCH easier to manipulate them....
and manipulation is what it is all about with narcissists...
I think Rick was not only USED by Drew, but I think Drew would intimidate him as well...
If Rick is going to the Enquirer with pictures, it is out of anger and spite, because he now has stepped out of the 'fog' that so many narcissists are famous for dumping around themselves to 'cover their sins'....this is why many family members cannot see the forest for the trees with their narcissist family member....for one, they are too close, and they cannot get a true perspective of who the narcissist REALLY is....
a narcissist is a chameleaon, constantly changing their colors to meet the need/s of th environment....truly a consummate actor, if you will...
the players around them, are kept 'off balance' by their charm, their raging, and their 'implied' intimidation....fear is a powerful tool when used against the right mindset....
narcissists are experts at this one characteristic.
Narcissists who do dirty deeds, ie serial killers, are very good at who they pick to be close to them, and who they will use to either uphold their own facade, or who they will use to take the fall for them....they are also very good at picking who they surmise may turn on them one day....these are the ones who, while they may become a Judas, the narcissist will make sure that Judas is something of a shady character themselves, so as to throw doubt on their credibility.....Rick Mims PERFECTLY fits this character....
Drew may be a schlump and a real sleaze ball, but he is not stupid in the selection process of those who have hung around him...
If you look at his response to ANYONE who dared challenge him, or confron him, he labels THEM as 'nuts"....ie Sharon B.....but if you look at the people he has used over time who know his shady dealings, they are too afraid to tell the truth of him, for fear of what it will also reveal about themselves....
Drew's tenacles run long....

[Just An Observer]

I like to look at the bigger picture. I'm always more concerned with a person like Drew Petersen, as opposed to the Rick Mimms of the world. Just my take.

[-Plainfield Mom -]

STANFORD wrote:

one thing i find odd is that no other women are comming out of the woodwork claiming Drew was playing them...not like Stacy with the steamy text messages...Drew just does not behave like a guy who has killed his wife(s), most would be hunkered down behind their lawyers

Seriously, you find it ODD that nobody else is coming forward to rat out Drew?? After one wife murders and another missing, I might be a little hesitant in coming forward myself!

[jewels]

orphanannie wrote:

as for rick mims...
every narcissist needs a groupie...
they love to be followed around by weak minded people who are wishy washy, and cannot make a stand on anything....because this makes it MUCH easier to manipulate them....
and manipulation is what it is all about with narcissists...
I think Rick was not only USED by Drew, but I think Drew would intimidate him as well...
If Rick is going to the Enquirer with pictures, it is out of anger and spite, because he now has stepped out of the 'fog' that so many narcissists are famous for dumping around themselves to 'cover their sins'....this is why many family members cannot see the forest for the trees with their narcissist family member....for one, they are too close, and they cannot get a true perspective of who the narcissist REALLY is....
a narcissist is a chameleaon, constantly changing their colors to meet the need/s of th environment....truly a consummate actor, if you will...
the players around them, are kept 'off balance' by their charm, their raging, and their 'implied' intimidation....fear is a powerful tool when used against the right mindset....
narcissists are experts at this one characteristic.
Narcissists who do dirty deeds, ie serial killers, are very good at who they pick to be close to them, and who they will use to either uphold their own facade, or who they will use to take the fall for them....they are also very good at picking who they surmise may turn on them one day....these are the ones who, while they may become a Judas, the narcissist will make sure that Judas is something of a shady character themselves, so as to throw doubt on their credibility.....Rick Mims PERFECTLY fits this character....
Drew may be a schlump and a real sleaze ball, but he is not stupid in the selection process of those who have hung around him...
If you look at his response to ANYONE who dared challenge him, or confron him, he labels THEM as 'nuts"....ie Sharon B.....but if you look at the people he has used over time who know his shady dealings, they are too afraid to tell the truth of him, for fear of what it will also reveal about themselves....
Drew's tenacles run long....

Brilliant, as always. It's been awhile since I have had a chance to catch up. Your "take" is always right on.

[Just An Observer]

orphanannie wrote:

as for rick mims...
every narcissist needs a groupie...
they love to be followed around by weak minded people who are wishy washy, and cannot make a stand on anything....because this makes it MUCH easier to manipulate them....
and manipulation is what it is all about with narcissists...
I think Rick was not only USED by Drew, but I think Drew would intimidate him as well...
If Rick is going to the Enquirer with pictures, it is out of anger and spite, because he now has stepped out of the 'fog' that so many narcissists are famous for dumping around themselves to 'cover their sins'....this is why many family members cannot see the forest for the trees with their narcissist family member....for one, they are too close, and they cannot get a true perspective of who the narcissist REALLY is....
a narcissist is a chameleaon, constantly changing their colors to meet the need/s of th environment....truly a consummate actor, if you will...
the players around them, are kept 'off balance' by their charm, their raging, and their 'implied' intimidation....fear is a powerful tool when used against the right mindset....
narcissists are experts at this one characteristic.
Narcissists who do dirty deeds, ie serial killers, are very good at who they pick to be close to them, and who they will use to either uphold their own facade, or who they will use to take the fall for them....they are also very good at picking who they surmise may turn on them one day....these are the ones who, while they may become a Judas, the narcissist will make sure that Judas is something of a shady character themselves, so as to throw doubt on their credibility.....Rick Mims PERFECTLY fits this character....
Drew may be a schlump and a real sleaze ball, but he is not stupid in the selection process of those who have hung around him...
If you look at his response to ANYONE who dared challenge him, or confron him, he labels THEM as 'nuts"....ie Sharon B.....but if you look at the people he has used over time who know his shady dealings, they are too afraid to tell the truth of him, for fear of what it will also reveal about themselves....
Drew's tenacles run long....

I thank God there are people like you in world, or else I would have nothing to believe in ,as far as mankind goes.

[dots]

FYI - SP wold not be entitlted to 1/2 of Drew's pension. His pension was earned by him, without any contribution from a spouse over a period of 29 years. They were married 4 years. She may have gotten a bit of money, representative of the amount added to the pension during those 4 years, but she is not entitled to 1/2 of the entire pension.

Further, since there is nothing to say that DP would not have gained sole custody of the children, especially his children from KP, don't jump on either of these issues as MOTIVE so fast. One of these "motives" is based on false information and the other is entirely speculative.

I have never referred to SP as the town slut, those are your words, which you use quite frequently for whatever reason.

The text messages: we will know more about them as time goes on, I am certain. However, we have Rosetto admitting to the exchange of racy text mesages with SP, so I can not understand the denial that such messages were in fact, sent to SP and that this particular message was more than likely one of the Rosetto texts.

It is entirely possible that SP took off to get away from her boring suburban life in which she was saddled with 4 kids and a old man for a husband. As long as this is possible, i.e., no body or real evidence of murder/death, it can not be ruled out with certainty.

[Dr tarrot]

Its ok for Mr Rick Mimms to be afraid of been murdered.

[orphanannie]

dots wrote:

FYI - SP wold not be entitlted to 1/2 of Drew's pension. His pension was earned by him, without any contribution from a spouse over a period of 29 years. They were married 4 years. She may have gotten a bit of money, representative of the amount added to the pension during those 4 years, but she is not entitled to 1/2 of the entire pension.
Further, since there is nothing to say that DP would not have gained sole custody of the children, especially his children from KP, don't jump on either of these issues as MOTIVE so fast. One of these "motives" is based on false information and the other is entirely speculative.
I have never referred to SP as the town slut, those are your words, which you use quite frequently for whatever reason.
The text messages: we will know more about them as time goes on, I am certain. However, we have Rosetto admitting to the exchange of racy text mesages with SP, so I can not understand the denial that such messages were in fact, sent to SP and that this particular message was more than likely one of the Rosetto texts.
It is entirely possible that SP took off to get away from her boring suburban life in which she was saddled with 4 kids and a old man for a husband. As long as this is possible, i.e., no body or real evidence of murder/death, it can not be ruled out with certainty.

WRONG!!!! dots....under ILLINOIS law, all assets earned maritally and EVEN before marital acquistion are considered part of the marital pot, and are distributed equitably, under the law....the ONLY exception is a pre-nup. Yes, some of his pension was earned BEFORE he married her, however, for the 7 year period they were married, and the fact that they had two children together, and the fact that he was the main wage earner, while she was the homemaker with no income, no skills, and no acquired income of her own, he would/could be ordered by a judge to fork over more of his 'future' income, ie pension....
I know this on a personal level, dots...so don't try to pull one of your 'counselor' diatribes here...I am walking in these very shoes at the moment....and I know what the law says....
Illinois is an equitable distribution state; but the law also has bi-furcation, in that if one party is found at de-fault in the marital contract, the other party is likely to gain much more from them....ie, the five major defaults are:
1) dissapation of marital assets 2) econmic default 3) adultery 4)giving your partner an STD 5)mental,physical, emotional, or sexual abuse
Since Stacy could undoubtedly prove some of the above, given his past history, he was CLEARLY at risk for losing much of his 'disposable' income....the child support alone would have strapped him for 18 years or more....
She qualified for alimony, and would have gotten it, despite the time of their marriage....some states require 10 years or more, but judges have had discretion in Illinois,( some counties are more liberal than others) to look at the whole picture, rather than just one part of it.
She could also get attorney's fees as well....
being that she was a young mother, with two kids by him...he would not look too good in court before a family court judge as to why he was dating a 16 year old at the age of 47....ahem...
she would have gotten a very good settlement from a divorce...had she not 'disappeared.'

[Just An Observer]

Ha! A little FYI for Dots there.

[orphanannie]

as for going for sole custody:
under Illinois law, fathers are not as "honored", as it were.It is a huge uphill battle for them, which is unfair...but Illinois does not grant sole custody of the kids to one parent unless the other parent either waives their parental rights and grants it, or the other parent is found to be unfit under the family court guidelines....
Stacy was not an unfit mother, so your suppostion is fantasy.
You have repeatedly on this forum alluded to Stacy being/having multiple affairs, sexual relationships with everyone from the pastor to the long lost RN.....and your implication borders on that because she allegedly had all these 'relationships' with all these local men, that it gave Drew just cause. YOu have made the same comments about K. Savio on numerous occasions, claiming she had a drug problem, that she was unstable and "that it was her who made all those 18 police calls to her house"....etc. etc...
Don't back pedal here, you imply many things about how bad the women were who were involved with Drew Peterson, almost to the point of saying that the problem is THEM!! when the common denominator is HIM!
You have alluded that Stacy may have even had a 'relationship' with the married pastor, because DREW said that when she would go to speak with him, "she got all dressed up."
If that isn't a low brow, chauvinistic pig comment, I don't know what is! With that sort of logic/thinking (if it is that...)you would be the type who would say, "Well, she was dressed suggestively, so therefore she deserved to be raped..." It's the same kind of mind set....
and IT"S WRONG.
There is no proof whatsoever that Stacy was seeing anyone outside the confines of her marriage to Drew. I doubt very much that she would even go there....since Drew was such a control freak, and she had first hand seen what he was capable of with K. Savio....I don't think she was that foolish.
There is no proof that those text messages that just 'happened' to appear on her RN friend's phone were made by her.....Drew has been notorious for 'setting people up' not excluding his own police officers....a text message is nothing! and it proves nothing....
While I can appreciate your defense of 'innocent until proven guilty' I cannot support your continual downgrading and devaluing two beautiful viable women who seemingly were murdered. Let's face it, even if they were questionable in their morals, what right do YOU have to judge them??? Since when is it a prerequisite to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness that you have to be a Puritan first????
I wish you would apply the same moral code to Drew that you so willingly slap on his two previous wives....at least it would level the playing field a bit.
You aren't elevating Drew to any higher level, by downgrading Stacy or Kathleen.....
He's been a guttersnipe from the get go....it's too bad for them, that they were snookered into believing he was actually a man of honor and integrity....
I guess we all know who he really is....I am sorry for you that you cannot admit this to yourself.

[AVALON EWO]

ORPHAN: REPLY POSTS 13 and 15; You really should have gone into Law. What a Sterling, cogent,informative dissection of DOTS, reply to you. If you were not into Nursing, I would swear it was YOU that was the Divorce Counselor and not someone else. Your points were eloquent, and inciteful.
I wish you were on the team with John Q. Kelly. There is not a thing else to say, you said it all. Much to the annoyance of one in particular. Hey, when you know what you are talking about, you don't have to back pedal. Well Done! Box of Gavels Avalon

[sugarbuns]

Joel, Joel, your true colors are showing man.

OA, he can't admit to that about Drew because he sees the cash cow chomping away at the haybale.

What a loser you are troll brodsky.

[dots]

You excuse women the behavior for which you condemn men. You are chauvin.

[AVALON EWO]

dots wrote:

You excuse women the behavior for which you condemn men. You are chauvin.

REPLY: The subject matter here
is not about a Woman being suspected of Murder. What does your statement have to do with all the lead in China? Yeeesh, nothing but dead weight, over and over again.

[STANFORD]

Hi Orphan

you called it correctly on Narcissists collecting a retinue of flunkies to use when convenient to their agenda

as to guys like Drew in LE, they usually marry down, be it economic status, education, sophistication, etc.

i do find it odd, that no 'other women' have surfaced, particularly in the light of how most of you perceive him

thanks, to Dots, for refreshing our memory on Rosetto (saw the news piece)

it would not be unusual for a female spouse who is disillusioned and angry, to seek solace elsewhere and to line up a new guy