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There are 72 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Nov 16, 2008, titled Victim's friend says schoolmate made threat before Boca Raton s.... In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

"The kid called Jacob [Zweig] last Saturday at around 9 p.m. and said, 'I'm going [expletive] kill you,'" said Jack Florens, 18.

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teacher

Pompano Beach, FL

#2 Nov 17, 2008
It stated in the article that he stayed out of trouble/ was a good kid. I'm not so sure I agree. I was told by some of his classmates that this incident was over cocaine and marijuana sales...
concerned

Vero Beach, FL

#4 Nov 17, 2008
It is also no secret that nbps does not enforce their own code of conduct or anti-bullying policies. They do not take enough intervention actions prior to physical confrontations occuring. If they receive a report of "bullying" and it doesn't meet their definition, they simple brush it off allowing the situation to escalate. They definately need to enforce their own rules and begin to take these "little" ongoing problems more seriously. Even though this didn't happen on school grounds, I was lead to believe that this was an ongoing issue between them both on and off campus.
hagen daaz

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Nov 17, 2008
Ok.. so you identify the victim and not the perp. Stupid
south fla life

Boca Raton, FL

#7 Nov 17, 2008
Sad. Middle class communities are not victims of many of the plagues of the impoverished ghettos around the U.S. and South Fla. They are not hit, at least not all at once, by unemployment beyond the definition of a "recession" (many of these neighborhoods have been in an economic depression for decades), criminal parents, absent parents (jailed, single parent, or working nights), alcoholism, drugs, and murder.
What drives priveledged spoiled kids to behave like this?
marsha

Walnut Creek, CA

#8 Nov 17, 2008
south fla life wrote:
Sad. Middle class communities are not victims of many of the plagues of the impoverished ghettos around the U.S. and South Fla. They are not hit, at least not all at once, by unemployment beyond the definition of a "recession" (many of these neighborhoods have been in an economic depression for decades), criminal parents, absent parents (jailed, single parent, or working nights), alcoholism, drugs, and murder.
What drives priveledged spoiled kids to behave like this?
They think they are invincible, they think they can bully their peers and anybody around them without any consequence, because in many cases their rich and parents will take care of any problem for them and actually will buy them a new car to make them happier so taht they can keep bullying some more.
I don't think the other kid should have stabbed him to death, but as basd as it sound Jacob Zweig had it coming
marsha

Walnut Creek, CA

#9 Nov 17, 2008
Had a couple of typos there, next time I'll use spell check.
Big Daddy

Lake Worth, FL

#10 Nov 17, 2008
There's more going on here than your regular high-school he-said/she-said or "you looked at my girlfriend" beef. These kids were obviously from well-off families (has a speakerphone, has a car in HS, just went to a Heat game, is going to an expensive private school, was out at a teen club), but they handle their problems just like people who have much less resources to learn better and more civil forms of conflict resolution.

Some people will blame this on everyone but these kids. But again, we are also to blame. All of us. No one could teach these kids that there is a way to handle your disputes without resorting to deadly physical violence. But maybe that's because we don't know how to do that.

I remember stuff like this happening when I was in high school. A kid we knew stabbed another kid over theft of a bicycle. Guys from the football team got into a big rolling brawl with guys from the wrestling team on a beach outing. My buddy got shot in the foot at a park ball court for refusing to give some other kid his gold chain.

The gist is that these things have happened all the time, all over our country since before the Jets and the Sharks got into it. It's just now, we have a constant stream of news that acts as a death tally banner. I never remember our beach brawls making the paper because when the cops would break it up, they would take everyone home and no one would get arrested. Now, we need to even arrest an 8 year old on felony charges because they brought a gun to school.

People need to take their noses out of other people's lives and out of their Blackberries and I-phones and really engage the people in front of them. Those constant distractions that we use to "communicate" are really ways to show people we think anything is more important than speaking to or listening to them when they are standing before us. The disconnect from people has been transferred to a virtual world that is spiritually and emotionally empty. Not to mention costly--all that money to do what 2 minutes on a phone used to accomplish.

Until we get back a sense of presence, we will see more and more of these senseless acts by our kids. It's the only way they have learned to get anyone's attention.
Bully

West Palm Beach, FL

#11 Nov 17, 2008
Looks like the bully lost, finally.
Veteran Schmeteran

Miami, FL

#12 Nov 17, 2008
Big Daddy wrote:
People need to take their noses out of other people's lives and out of their Blackberries and I-phones and really engage the people in front of them. Those constant distractions that we use to "communicate" are really ways to show people we think anything is more important than speaking to or listening to them when they are standing before us. The disconnect from people has been transferred to a virtual world that is spiritually and emotionally empty. Not to mention costly--all that money to do what 2 minutes on a phone used to accomplish.
Until we get back a sense of presence, we will see more and more of these senseless acts by our kids. It's the only way they have learned to get anyone's attention.
Amen brother!!!Well said. I can't tell you how many times my 22 month smiles at someone to get their attention, only to be completely ignored b/c the person is too engaged on their cell. It's as if this new technology has created a cultural and sociological disconnect. A smile or an aknowledgement from a stranger is completely ignored. It's as if people are too self-absorbed these days to even care about the value of "life." The kids see it and act out.
dumm guy

Miami, FL

#13 Nov 17, 2008
The Cafe owner should be sued for failure to provide sufficient security. Close this place down. No need to have teenage kids hanging around at 1 am fighting and killing each other.
Not so surprising

Boca Raton, FL

#14 Nov 17, 2008
FAKE TOUGH GUY BULLY GOT WHAT HE DESERVED.
Disturbing

United States

#15 Nov 17, 2008
marsha wrote:
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They think they are invincible, they think they can bully their peers and anybody around them without any consequence, because in many cases their rich and parents will take care of any problem for them and actually will buy them a new car to make them happier so taht they can keep bullying some more.
I don't think the other kid should have stabbed him to death, but as basd as it sound Jacob Zweig had it coming
Your a complete miserable idiot and you have no idea what you are talking about. Your assuming all sorts of things and making generalizations about people who are more affluent. Not all kids who grow up in upper middle class families and go to private schools are indulged the way you are describing. Many of the families that attend that school, work very hard and make sacrifices just to be able to send their kids there. Many teens have jobs, save money and buy their own cars. Stop blaming those who work harder and have more for your lack of motivation and success!
sad but true big daddy

Tucson, AZ

#16 Nov 17, 2008
I agree completely with what you have so eloquently put into words. I have thought the very same thing for quite some time now, & wonder if it will only get worse. I don't see "technology" slowing down for the sake of "humanity" - though heaven knows we need it to for the sake of interpersonal relationships.
Michelle R

Hialeah, FL

#18 Nov 17, 2008
As a student and friend of Jacob i just want to say if any of you actually knew Jacob Samuel Zweig you would know he was caring brother and loving friend. But the fact that you people (who have no life and are very judgemental) are judging him becuase of what you think about him is unethical and unreal. But he was a real person just like you and me, and does not deserve to be called a "bully jew" or any other harmful names you are so sudden to call him. So before you are so quickly to judge Jacob you should know he was one of the most happiest and compassionate person ive ever met. Whenever he had a job to do, he would go above and beyond to complete it. Confidence was just one of the many words that described him. The slightest things in life could make him smile, and this made a huge impact on the lives of his family and friends. Jacob Zweig lived his last years not only training to be a soldier. But i believe that he was born and lived life always being a true solder.[Definition of Soldier]-A brave warrior; a man of military experience and skill, or a man of distinguished valor; used by way of emphasis or distinction. I stand strong by my word choice and opinion on this young man. Noone deserves for this to happen to them, and is truly a tradgedy for both lives of these young men and their families. Please keep them in your prayers.

R.I.P- Jacob Samuel Zweig
November 15, 2008
andrea

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#19 Nov 17, 2008
how sad. what a loss. jacob's legacy will hopefully be to save one kid from being in a similar situation. pray for those loved ones left behind
Peace

AOL

#20 Nov 17, 2008
Gary Glitter wrote:
It's Monday.
Why is last weeks news on the SS today?
The bully jew is dead. Lets move on!
may god forgive you and your ignorance and despicable prejudice
NAP

United States

#21 Nov 17, 2008
Gary Glitter wrote:
It's Monday.
Why is last weeks news on the SS today?
The bully jew is dead. Lets move on!
You are an ignorant idiot. I can't believe there are people like you in this world. Take your opinion and and shove it.
NAP

United States

#22 Nov 17, 2008
Marsha your are an idiot, why don't you get the entire story before you make judgements. No 17 year old deserves to be stabbed and killed for any reason and I am in disbelieve that you and others have made such accusations about this boy being a bully, judging him by his religious believes. Who is the bully now? I hope you can live with yourself for your comments. Your a discrase to humanity, all of you.
NAP

United States

#23 Nov 17, 2008
Another moron without the entire story. Why do you believe everything you read in the paper as face value...there is another story on this same subject saying the other kid threatened his life. Unless you were there, you don't know so keep your small brained comments in your small brain.
Straight Arrow

Miami, FL

#24 Nov 17, 2008
south fla life wrote:
Sad. Middle class communities are not victims of many of the plagues of the impoverished ghettos around the U.S. and South Fla. They are not hit, at least not all at once, by unemployment beyond the definition of a "recession" (many of these neighborhoods have been in an economic depression for decades), criminal parents, absent parents (jailed, single parent, or working nights), alcoholism, drugs, and murder.
What drives priveledged spoiled kids to behave like this?
Sounds like they have a very Liberal agenda

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