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Septicemic

Bluefield, WV

#63 Mar 6, 2011
perzz wrote:
blam the usa prez... he dont even have a birth certifict
you don't either if you were born in WV. WV like Hawaii only issues Certificates of Live Birth which Obama provided 4 years ago and is still available to see.

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1. Is Obama a U.S. Citizen?

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x-bread man

Bluefield, WV

#64 Mar 6, 2011
haha anti union wrote:
<quoted text>probably neverwill because i wont work for a union that rapes businesses until they have no choice to move out of the area or even the country. unions was started by the mob and are still run by a mob that uses fear to get what they want rather it be fear of a strike or fear of a grieveance. unions are the downfall of business.
right you sit at home on your fat ass an wait on your welfare to come to the mail box!!!!
I KNOW

Bluefield, WV

#65 Mar 6, 2011
I actually made this decision to avoid their products some years ago....I grew up on Sunbeam bread...I tried Whitewheat and others but all seemed more and more less than fresh and really always somewhat dried out.I tried different stores and the results were about the same.I am not sure if it was a different formula OR the carting of the products everywhere to get it here.
I found most Heiners was softer and fresher as is Sarah Lee.....
I make a lot of my own breads so soft fresh (not dried out) bread is a requirement when I do buy in the store.

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#66 Mar 7, 2011
once they started pulling products out and put them in other bakerys they were more worried about quantity not quality. other bakerys don't have guys there with10, 15, 20 years experience the employee turn over at other bakerys is unreal.
I KNOW

Bluefield, WV

#67 Mar 7, 2011
I would agree with you this was over about 5 or 6 years ago this started.I have been at Kroger when the bread man was stocking the shelves-bought bread-came home and used some within an hour of purchase and it was a dried out almost old tasting mess.I switched from Sunbeam to White Wheat and it was the very same dried out crap so I have been buying Heiners and Sarah lee and never have had that problem. COMPANIES MAKE BAD DECISIONS and the unfortunate part the ones that pay the price are the employees.Breads are not fresh when they are trucked back and forth and warehoused everywhere.Bread is in the range of 2.00 a loaf and if I have to pay this I want something I can eat.A Bluefield bakery could deliver good fresh bread to all of Wv-parts of Va-Ky and others and still be first day breads.The management made that change and ruined the product.(as management is always so good at)
For Real

Keen Mountain, VA

#68 Mar 7, 2011
get real wrote:
<quoted text>Well if its so bad fr the poor lil route drivers then why dont they find another job... its simple.. they choose to do this job and they will either do it or not so if they want to do it then quit whining and do it.. it is their choice and nobody cares really...
Well for one.. there are NO other jobs in this area.

And their contracts run for 10 years at a time. Would you want to pay a company half your salary and then quit 3 years into it, and loose absolutely everything you paid in? Even if you quit, the route itself and the truck is financed to YOU, and the payment doesn't just go away because you got tired of it. If they quit right now, Flowers could sue them for everything they have, if the bank don't take it for non payment. These routes cost as much as a house payment.

It's not McDonalds. You can't just quit and be done with it.

How would YOU feel if people were threatening your only source of income, because of something you can't control?
For Real

Keen Mountain, VA

#69 Mar 7, 2011
I KNOW wrote:
I actually made this decision to avoid their products some years ago....I grew up on Sunbeam bread...I tried Whitewheat and others but all seemed more and more less than fresh and really always somewhat dried out.I tried different stores and the results were about the same.I am not sure if it was a different formula OR the carting of the products everywhere to get it here.
I found most Heiners was softer and fresher as is Sarah Lee.....
I make a lot of my own breads so soft fresh (not dried out) bread is a requirement when I do buy in the store.
That would be because their bread has more preservatives. Things like that don't matter to some people, so it's all about personal choice. If you read nutritional rankings between the two, you'll find most Flowers products would be better for your health. Imagen it as comparing Cambels regular soup, and Cambels heart healthy soup. One has MSG, the other does not. So yes, one does go out of date faster than the other, and they taste similar, but not the exact same.
I KNOW

Bluefield, WV

#70 Mar 7, 2011
I actually bought the bread out of the "tray" the route man was stocking from so it was the freshest he had.I WOULD RATHER MAKE BREAD AT HOME where I can control everything in it and I do a lot.
haha anti union

Marion, VA

#71 Mar 7, 2011
x-bread man wrote:
<quoted text>right you sit at home on your fat ass an wait on your welfare to come to the mail box!!!!
yeah thhats exactly wrong... lol for one i dont think being 6 feet 1 inch tall and weighing 195 pounds is fat and for two i have no need for a welfare check.. but i bet since you are an EX breadman you couldd use a welfare check because its a handout that decent people pay with their taxes... kinda resembles the union really cause they drive prices up and people pay there overpayed workers wages everytime they bought the high priced bread products that wouldnt have been that high if the union wasnt a form of organized crime overcharging companies and running them into the ground... hmmm yep unions are a higher order of welfare just they only give to a selected group of assholes like you.. lol
get real

Marion, VA

#72 Mar 7, 2011
For Real wrote:
<quoted text>
Well for one.. there are NO other jobs in this area.
And their contracts run for 10 years at a time. Would you want to pay a company half your salary and then quit 3 years into it, and loose absolutely everything you paid in? Even if you quit, the route itself and the truck is financed to YOU, and the payment doesn't just go away because you got tired of it. If they quit right now, Flowers could sue them for everything they have, if the bank don't take it for non payment. These routes cost as much as a house payment.
It's not McDonalds. You can't just quit and be done with it.
How would YOU feel if people were threatening your only source of income, because of something you can't control?
well seems like ya shouldve done some research before jumping into it huh? guess some people just look at the small picture and forget about the entire scene and all of the variables... file bankrupt on the business you own since ya work for nothing and forget about it or wait a couple more years and lose more money when the routes are shut down..
For Real

Keen Mountain, VA

#73 Mar 7, 2011
All I'm saying is that if people really care about their neighbors, they will call and express their discontent with corporate, insted of taking it out on hard working people who will have to work twice as hard to compensate for the lack of a local bakery.

Morristown is only 2 hours away, so Flowers products freshness won't be affected.

We're all upset too, because now we don't have a local bakery to pick up extra bread at. We're struglling. We don't need people who legitamately like our products to stop buying them because management didn't want to fool with the union anymore. We don't have any sort of union to watch out for us.
Septicemic

Bluefield, WV

#74 Mar 8, 2011
Morristown is 2 hours away? Did they change the speed limit to 90?
For Real

Keen Mountain, VA

#75 Mar 8, 2011
get real wrote:
<quoted text>well seems like ya shouldve done some research before jumping into it huh? guess some people just look at the small picture and forget about the entire scene and all of the variables... file bankrupt on the business you own since ya work for nothing and forget about it or wait a couple more years and lose more money when the routes are shut down..
So using your logic, shouldn't the people at the bakery forseen this as well?

There was no way to know this would happen. I don't "work for nothing" but if people refuse to buy our products, yes I will be going in the hole. I sure hope nothing like this happens to you, because not knowing if your bills will be paid is one of the worst feelings in the world. Maybe you'll get someone acting like you, telling you it's your own fault a multi million dollar company blindsided you four years after you signed a contract.

& Morristown is only two hours away from my location. I don't live in Bluefield. It's two hours and 30 minutes from Bluefield, or 2 hours and 58 minutes using perfect speed limit on Mapquest. & that is the location that already baked numerous products that the Bluefield bakery wasn't equipped to do.
get real

Marion, VA

#76 Mar 8, 2011
For Real wrote:
<quoted text>
So using your logic, shouldn't the people at the bakery forseen this as well?
There was no way to know this would happen. I don't "work for nothing" but if people refuse to buy our products, yes I will be going in the hole. I sure hope nothing like this happens to you, because not knowing if your bills will be paid is one of the worst feelings in the world. Maybe you'll get someone acting like you, telling you it's your own fault a multi million dollar company blindsided you four years after you signed a contract.
& Morristown is only two hours away from my location. I don't live in Bluefield. It's two hours and 30 minutes from Bluefield, or 2 hours and 58 minutes using perfect speed limit on Mapquest. & that is the location that already baked numerous products that the Bluefield bakery wasn't equipped to do.
well the last contract the workers signed there they shouldve taken a hint when they almost had to strike to get what the union demanded.. but no the good ole union had it under control and convinced the workers to be led right into this shit.. AND since ive been saying its the unions fault from the start i have no idea how to respond to your other comment about someone like me saying it is your fault..
For Real

Keen Mountain, VA

#77 Mar 8, 2011
Route drivers are not, and never have been, part of the union. It's not an option. We work out of independent warehouses and don't hear anything about bakery politics. We're at our wearhouses for about 20 minutes a day as we load, get our notes, and go deliver.

Please don't try to judge a situation you know nothing about.
for real

Marion, VA

#78 Mar 8, 2011
For Real wrote:
Route drivers are not, and never have been, part of the union. It's not an option. We work out of independent warehouses and don't hear anything about bakery politics. We're at our wearhouses for about 20 minutes a day as we load, get our notes, and go deliver.
Please don't try to judge a situation you know nothing about.
really? are you just not capable of understanding much or what? go read my comments and then your responses... you said the bakery employees had no way of knowing and i said the did.. not you dumb ass you are not a bakery employee remember? you are the one commenting on bakery politics and just contrdicted yourself with this statement that you dont get into them.. soooo which side of the horse are you going to ride on? i believe you are the one that dont know shit and it shows in your incosistant statements... im through debating anything with you so enjoy your job that you hate and expect that your days are numbered too...
Sorry this happened

Knoxville, TN

#79 Mar 9, 2011
I beg to differ with "For Real" until the strike of '86 or 87'(I can't exactly remember the exact year) route drivers with Flowers Bakery in Bluefield were part of the Teamsters Union..union members were out on strike for quite a while trying to keep these drivers part of the union but failed.

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#80 Mar 9, 2011
for real know your history the route drivers was part of the union until 1988 and the only thing morristown makes are speciality buns. that is just where everything will be shipped from. the bread will come from bradstown ky near over 6 hours away. they now have so much to bake they have to stay 2 or 3 days ahead so that means the bread will sit either on their shipping dock or in trailers in the parking lot. so how fresh can it be?
I KNOW

Princeton, WV

#81 Mar 9, 2011
Oh well I will get mine from Heiners that is from Huntington..a few hours away but regardless I have never had any problem with dried out or half stale breads.
I can agree the union created the problem and the company made a mess out of everything but the bottom line that neither cared about was the EMPLOYEES-they lost their jobs-and neither the union or the company cared one bit.

Whether the breads come from Tenn or Bardstown by the time they are out and in store shelves in the area they will be 2 days or more old -just stock them at the thrift store at a reduced price....I for one am not going to pay top dollar for bread that is 2 maybe 3 days old when I purchase it.If Heiners fails in quality then I will always make my own that way it is FRESH out of the oven.
Woman Who Cares

Bluefield, WV

#82 Mar 9, 2011
Make or Take wrote:
I ageee here are the products to boycott....
Nature's Own
Cobblestone Mill
Whitewheat
Sunbeam Bread
Bunny Bread
ButterKrust
Captain John Derst's
European Bakers
Blue Bird
Mrs. Freshley's
Mi Casa
Thanks for printing this list, it's helpfull info. I am one to boycott all these brands. Again thanks. It's the Dean CO all over again, this com had been here for over 90ys. and now because of misused funds and sending our products over seas it is closed for good. It's time we stood up for our people, and stop shaking the hands that are betraying us.

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