Church Haunted House Put On Hold Over...

Church Haunted House Put On Hold Over Fire Code Violation

There are 18 comments on the Fox4KC story from Sep 30, 2010, titled Church Haunted House Put On Hold Over Fire Code Violation. In it, Fox4KC reports that:

A church youth group in Blue Springs has run into a frightful problem with city officials who have pulled the plug on their Halloween haunted house over code violations.

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boo

Pilot Grove, MO

#1 Sep 30, 2010
To bad they didn't just ask for a tif. Carson and the boys would be tripping over each other to get that done. Too bad these kids can't have a little clean fun. Looks to me that the city of Blue Springs is the real nightmare.
MXER

Holden, MO

#2 Sep 30, 2010
Blue Springs can't do anything right. You don't have any freedom in their city. You can't even put trash out at the curb without getting a ticket.
Nanc

AOL

#3 Sep 30, 2010
Halloween represents the occult, witches, witchcraft, devils, etc. I wouldn't want to be a member of a church that celebrates this day. Even if it's supposed purpose is to raise money for mission trips or whatever, it still celebrates Halloween.
Fred Waring

Chillicothe, MO

#4 Oct 1, 2010
What did the city of Blue Springs do before they ever had Fire Sprinkler Systems. I realize we are in modern times, but this isn't like they were opening for business forever. Twelve days & the fire department close by... Let's just keep it simple. Let the group "just do it". I'm sure you could find other legitimate code violations at other places that just made sense.
momof5boyz

Overland Park, KS

#5 Oct 1, 2010
Nanc- usually haunted houses of this nature are to show what happens if you do not have christ as the center of your life. It is a way to bring unbelievers to Christ.They deal with things such as car accidents, drug overdoses,school shootings-real life things that the kids of today deal with on a daily basis. Then at the end they give the message of Christ and his forgiveness and eternal life.
concerned

Blue Springs, MO

#6 Oct 1, 2010
blue springs is not to bad i have never received a ticket for my trash being curbside its just makes the city better looking having rules also the trash company's are required to pick the trash up at the house then curbside i like it. on the real topic i feel sorry for the church but they should have looked into the rules before spending all the money for the haunted house its our kids safety even if the firetruck are around the block a child or someone still could be killed during a fire
concerned

Blue Springs, MO

#7 Oct 1, 2010
This code is in place in every city; not just Blue Springs. Every entity must adhere to the fire and building codes. This church was not singled out.
The cities lay this all out in the planning process but unfortunately some individuals have selective hearing and only glean what they want to hear from the planning meetings. The church proceeded without the proper permitting and did not adhere to the requirements. And this strip mall, that the haunted house was going into, does not meet code.
The point is, many of the materials used in haunted houses, including the cobwebs, are highly flammable. All it takes is one light bulb to get overheated and 'poof' the whole place goes up in flames in seconds. With blind corners, numerous walls and dark interior, these places become a death trap to those individuals that are within its confines. Remember the nightclub back east that went up in flames a few years ago and many people were injured and killed? Yeah, same scenario. Majority of the time those individuals in haunted houses are children and teens; our children. That would be the REAL nightmare. Just think about it.
Blue Springs is protecting our children, plain and simple. So lighten up folks and think about the facts here. Will we and this church put money ahead of children's safety? If we or the church does, well, our priorities are severely out of whack.
who you gonna blame

Kansas City, KS

#8 Oct 1, 2010
who would you people blame if hundreds of people burned to death? Who needs sprinklers when you got God right? The idiots should have read the fire code first.
a la

Kansas City, KS

#9 Oct 1, 2010
momof5boyz wrote:
Nanc- usually haunted houses of this nature are to show what happens if you do not have christ as the center of your life. It is a way to bring unbelievers to Christ.They deal with things such as car accidents, drug overdoses,school shootings-real life things that the kids of today deal with on a daily basis. Then at the end they give the message of Christ and his forgiveness and eternal life.
Hey lady, Christians die every day of all the things you listed. Group hallucinations don't change that.
Let me think

Grain Valley, MO

#10 Oct 1, 2010
Well now then, If I go to anyplace in Blue Springs... I shall report if they have no sprinkler systems....
Kay J

Armonk, NY

#11 Oct 1, 2010
concerned wrote:
blue springs is not to bad i have never received a ticket for my trash being curbside its just makes the city better looking having rules also the trash company's are required to pick the trash up at the house then curbside i like it. on the real topic i feel sorry for the church but they should have looked into the rules before spending all the money for the haunted house its our kids safety even if the firetruck are around the block a child or someone still could be killed during a fire
Blue springs IS that bad. I too live in Blue Springs and have for all my life. And they will give you tickets for that for sure. Not to mention notifications of you breaking city codes even when you haven't. We repeatedly got letters from the city saying our lawn was over 6 inches and needed to be mowed.. but the kicker is our lawn has NEVER gotten to such heights...

I do understand the whole issue about safety, don't get me wrong..But what I'm not understanding is how all the other stores that have been in that particular building have been able to remain open without a sprinkler system, but this haunted house (geared for a good cause) can't open. Sad, because the fire department is literally right behind it in walking distance.
Let me think

Grain Valley, MO

#12 Oct 1, 2010
momof5boyz wrote:
Nanc- usually haunted houses of this nature are to show what happens if you do not have christ as the center of your life. It is a way to bring unbelievers to Christ.They deal with things such as car accidents, drug overdoses,school shootings-real life things that the kids of today deal with on a daily basis. Then at the end they give the message of Christ and his forgiveness and eternal life.
This one is clearly not one like that its just looks like a haunted house like any other, on the news video
concerned

Blue Springs, MO

#13 Oct 1, 2010
Any new development has to bring the site to code. The fire department can site a business for violations. The existing tenants in that building have paid for the improvements to bring their tenant spaces to code. The cities inspect new businesses, not existing ones unless they are inhabitable.
Eugene

Shawnee, KS

#14 Oct 1, 2010
Maybe this is Gods way of telling them a church shouldn't be conducting a haunted house. Regardless of how fun or scary it may or may not be. A Christian organization shouldn't be engaging in this kind of thing.
applauding Blue Springs

Kansas City, MO

#15 Oct 5, 2010
I live in Blue Springs and will say I am not happy with how they conduct some things but I will also say I sgree with the city for not allowing them to operate. I agree with another poster that if a fire broke out, think of the possibilities of injuries....or deaths. Man the city sure would held liable then. I cannot believe someone did not look in to the "codes" prior to putting all of the time in to building of the haunted house.
I don't know how people got in to the trash can issue but since it was mentioned I will say I love that the city doesn't allow them at the street. People leave them empty at the curb days after the trash has been picked up. They drive by it each time they pull in their driveway but it still sits there.
Bubba of Blue Springs

United States

#16 Oct 7, 2010
Halloween has its origins in the ancient Celtic festival known as Samhain (pronounced "sah-win").

The festival of Samhain is a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture. Samhain was a time used by the ancient pagans to take stock of supplies and prepare for winter. The ancient Gaels believed that on October 31, the boundaries between the worlds of the living and the dead overlapped and the deceased would come back to life and cause havoc such as sickness or damaged crops.

The festival would frequently involve bonfires. It is believed that the fires attracted insects to the area which attracted bats to the area. These are additional attributes of the history of Halloween.

Masks and consumes were worn in an attempt to mimic the evil spirits or appease them.
Rachelle

Kansas City, MO

#17 Oct 22, 2010
Fred Waring wrote:
What did the city of Blue Springs do before they ever had Fire Sprinkler Systems. I realize we are in modern times, but this isn't like they were opening for business forever. Twelve days & the fire department close by... Let's just keep it simple. Let the group "just do it". I'm sure you could find other legitimate code violations at other places that just made sense.
What is wrong with you? You never went out trick-or-treating and also went to church on Sunday? I can't stand people like you. Mindless creature, can't see out of the box fool. Ugggg
BKA

Evansville, IN

#18 Aug 30, 2011
Nanc wrote:
Halloween represents the occult, witches, witchcraft, devils, etc. I wouldn't want to be a member of a church that celebrates this day. Even if it's supposed purpose is to raise money for mission trips or whatever, it still celebrates Halloween.
Who are you to judge....?
If you will do a little research you will see that this holiday was started by the catholic church. It is narrow minded people like yourself who give this holiday a bad rap. Educate yourself before making such a reply.

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