Counselor helps ex-felons find jobs

Counselor helps ex-felons find jobs

There are 285 comments on the Kansas City Star story from Aug 21, 2007, titled Counselor helps ex-felons find jobs. In it, Kansas City Star reports that:

Patrick Danley brushes aside doubt with a preacher's zeal. 'What you want to do, bro?' he asked an ex-felon on a recent day.

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Weimar

United States

#107 Jun 22, 2008
Yeah, get off the pity pot and start looking! I'm a felon too but I never gave up hope. My situation was a little different than the rest of you, because I NEVER "intentionally" commited the crime I was charged with and now I'm labeled just like the rest of you. This is what happened:
I was pulled over for speeding (just going over 5 miles an hour), but I had been drinking a little that night too. The cop asked me to do a sobriety test and failed me. I also had a concealed carry permit and yes, the gun was in the car that night too. I figured this wouldn't be a problem because of my permit, so I told her told her exactly where it was, and she freaked out on me. I told her it was only for my own protection, but she seemed like she could not care less. This was when I was like, oh shit... Under normal circumstances, I would have been able to have the gun on me, but since she had suspected me of drinking, she arrested me on the spot and charged me with improper handling of a firearm, which is a 5th degree felony. The courts eventually found me guilty and even though I did no jail time other than for that one day I was arrested, I'm stuck with this stupid thing on my record.
Total fucking bad luck... I didn't rob a bank, I never sold drugs (never even did drugs), I'm definitely not a sex offender, never wrote a bad check, hell this was only my first DUI, and the gun was to PROTECT me from criminals, and look what the cops do to me! I'm paying my price for a mistake I had NO intention to make only because one anti-gun police officer wanted to make an example out of me.
Well guess what? I'm still able to live and sure, I may not get the job I want at a large company like Nationwide Insurance or Chase Bank, but I can still get a job at private companies who don't do background checks.
Some of you people just make me sick. We all make choices in this world, some are good and some are bad. I made the choice to drink and I was screwed over for it. You chose to commit the crime. Some of you don't even deserve any sympathy, because YOU were exactly the type of people I kept my gun to protect myself against. Now my right to baer arms are taken away (just like the cops want) and I'm tagged with the title of felon. Pish Posh... If I can survive through this, why can't the rest of you?
nc mom

Albemarle, NC

#108 Jul 1, 2008
I have a 24 year old son who will be released from prison this month. He now has two felonies on his record. After spending a year in prison for this last arrest, I want to believe that he has had time to think. When he gets out, he will need a job to support himself. Thank goodness, there are no children involved. I have tried to encouraged my son to get some higher education. He has a high school diploma. If anyone gave share some "pearls of wisdom," I would be greatly appreciative. If anyone is hiring in the Rowan County area, please let me know. My son has a good heart and can work hard. Our good Lord forgives us, please forgive my son.
Elaine

Palmdale, CA

#109 Jul 8, 2008
I have read all the postings on this page and found them all to be true with our society. But there is something we can do. If you have done your time and have been clean than there is a way to get around that question on an application "have you commited a crime" by answering in with a no and be okay and how is this true? well if your home and have the time all you need is a little foot work with the courts and it's free yes free! And all it took was 4 weeks for a judge to sign off on your application.:D

Since: Jul 08

Thiensville, WI

#110 Jul 8, 2008
First of all, I'd like to state that the economy is in the crapper. I know we are all shocked to learn this. As I've explained to clients numerous times, it's hard for anyone to get a job right now. I explained this:

A Diner used to pay 228.00 for the bi-weekly drop off of tomatoes, lettuce, onions, etc, that is used to make meals for their customers. His cost last Thursday was 442.00 for the same company to drop off the same vegetables. The diner owner is making up for this cost by not replacing employees when they quit.

That diner isn't hiring anyone, regardless of their felony convictions.
smc

United States

#111 Jul 12, 2008
What has happened is that the Homeland Security Act that was passed in 2004(?) gave companies the right to go beyond 7 years to look at anyone's criminal history.
It makes one wonder how this "terrorist" legislation has yet again come around to further crucify the US population. AND, just by chance the majority of felons are "minority" groups.
I am an acoholic and found this claringly out in 1994 when I got 3 DWIS and a felony conviction. I deserved it. I am grateful for my life and soboriety.
It is sheer hell trying to find a job and getting turned down when you have a degree and 14 years of a solid work history.
I am laid off and humiliated as it is.Right now, all I can think is, "how long does one have to pay?" As an alcoholic all I can do is stay sober-I do.That is a life sentence as it is.
I know people have it worse. I know I just have to keep trying. I also know that it is absolutely nor right that something people did more than 5 years ago should be held against them. especially, if they are non-violent offeneders and it does not pertain to the job they are applying for.
GREGORY

Vandiver, AL

#112 Jul 14, 2008
HEY EVERYBODY I TO AM ALSO A EX-FELON LIVING IN THE STATE OF ALABAMA AND I HAVE BEEN OUT OF PRISON SINCE 2000, BUT HAS BEEN HARD FOR ME TO.FIRST LET ME SAY THIS TO MY FELLOW BROTHERS,AND SISTER OUT THERE TRYING TO GET A JOB BUT CANT YOUR PAST CAN'T DETERMINE YOU FUTURE.YOUR IDENTITY IS NOT IN YOUR PAST.WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WHAT EVER WE WANT TO DO WE JUST HAVE TO BE MORE STRATEGIC IN OUR APPROACH TO THIS UNGRATEFUL SYSTEM THAT WE LIVE IN.
GREGORY

Vandiver, AL

#113 Jul 14, 2008
Hey everybody its me again. I just want to also say that I'm in the process of forming a non-profit organiztion for Ex-felons I'm so pissed off right now becuase they won't give us a chance , but I say this we have legal rights to most of the people I Know that I did time with are extremely smart and Intelligent people.Again I repeat to my brothers and sisters we must be wise in our approach to this ungrateful system.if you agree hit me at grtwoth@aol.com.
DreDogg

United States

#114 Jul 17, 2008
My mother just got of prison. She is having a hard time finding employment. Could you please give me some advise to help her out. I think after so long a felon should not be on your record. Because with one you can not do anything. They should at least have som kind of second chance felons program after a certain tim period. Everyone makes mistakes!
shannon

Del Rio, TX

#115 Jul 22, 2008
walmart i know its case by case but they do hire felons and so does target
shannon

Del Rio, TX

#116 Jul 22, 2008
i have worked in the car buisiness also selling cars try different dealerships just be honest were ever you go. you lie they wont hire. tell the truth and they will give you a chance. THat goes were ever you go plus a lot of places get a tax brake for employing newly released felons. The big kicker is now not only are people checking your criminal history but also your credit history. So just ask what are your requirements. Dress for success. Be on time , Speak clearly, leave the getto talk in the getto. Be honest, let them know your past is staying in the past that it is not who you are now. And that you would be and asset to there company. Then so them you are!
john q public

United States

#117 Jul 22, 2008
my questions is why didnt any of these felon's think of the consequence's before they committed their crimes.
Wishful

Diamond Bar, CA

#118 Jul 23, 2008
john q public wrote:
my questions is why didnt any of these felon's think of the consequence's before they committed their crimes.
You always hear that question, but the fact is, people do stupid things in their youth. Some truly don't know what the consequences are. They probably knew it was wrong, but didn't think it was hugely criminal at the time. There are so many felonies that are relatively "minor". I'm not saying that ignorance should let them off the hook. However, once they pay their debt, they should have a decent shot at life. I'm not talking about multiple offenders who don't want to change. These people are not going around saying, "hey, I deserve that job!". They just want a chance just like everyone else. People do change for the better. The world would be a better place if more people felt that way.



Keke

Enid, OK

#119 Jul 26, 2008
I have 2 felonies from my past too. I have never been in trouble until 2002. i went to prison on a 2 year term but was released within a year. I had good jobs. I love to work .It has been 4 years almost 5 next year and I can't get anyone to hire me. I even changed my lifestyle,went to Ministry school because that's the only place that accepts me.I doo know it's hard to get a job.We've all found a job it's just the fact will anyone trust us to work for them. I beleive deeply that God will provide for all of us that's going through this. The way I see it is "It's mighty strange that man will look at you and won't give you another chance but, once you asked God for forgiveness and believe in him he will no longer remember our past.So I say to you all coming from a "Sista" it's not only happening to the black it's happening to the white and hispanic's too but we have to HOLD ON because A CHANGE IS GONNA COME!
OBSIDIAN

Buffalo, NY

#120 Jul 29, 2008
Get your hands on "The Ex-Inmate's Complete Guide to Successful Employment" by Errol Craig Sull, a guide full of useful advice that can be utilized by many that have posted.

While it's disheartening to read the posts because so many feel just as I do...a chance is needed for those who circumstances are isolated. Career criminals are another topic/post IMO.

Non-profit agencies are a good start, the people that run them and do the hiring tend to be more "liberal" in their views and willing to give 2nd chances. VOLUNTEER if you have to, volunteer staff aren't generally subjected to the rigorous hiring requirements as regular staff. A good volunteer will make a good employee, the agency I worked at always looked to pull from quality volunteer staff. You'll pick up skills needed that are transferable later. Getting your foot in the door is key.

Call the local United Way, they keep a comprehensive list of agencies as they fund most non profits.

Be honest, don't even think about NOT disclosing your conviction status.

More importantly, keep the faith, just as an earlier post stated, man may let you down, but He won't.
DarkGlitch

Kansas City, KS

#121 Jul 31, 2008
BEYOND THE CONVICTION wrote:
1601 East 18Th Street
KCMO 64108
December 27, 2007
To one and all please come to 1600 East 18th Street Kansas City, Mo.
Suite 200-F sign in and someone will escourt you to the class room
Orientation is 9am , 11am or 6pm on Mondays.
Our work-shop is Tuesday thru Friday at 9am and 6pm
Feel free to give us a call here at the office if you have any questions.
You may call to reserve a seat as our work-shops our filling up fast.
Thank you we look forward to being of assistance .
PS. DONT GIVE UP REMEMBER
HELP ONE SAVE ONE
Respectfully,
BTC STAFF
If you are a felon:

BTC DOES NOT HELP YOU FIND A JOB. The only thing they do it tell felons how to find other ways to get a job. They DO NOT give you a list of people that hire felons. They will tell you this themselves. I've been to a few of their meetings. The only thing I got out of it was "Yeah its hard being a felon".

Nice, guys, I really needed that.
PissedoffKCFelon

Kansas City, KS

#122 Jul 31, 2008
OBSIDIAN wrote:
Get your hands on "The Ex-Inmate's Complete Guide to Successful Employment" by Errol Craig Sull, a guide full of useful advice that can be utilized by many that have posted.
While it's disheartening to read the posts because so many feel just as I do...a chance is needed for those who circumstances are isolated. Career criminals are another topic/post IMO.
Non-profit agencies are a good start, the people that run them and do the hiring tend to be more "liberal" in their views and willing to give 2nd chances. VOLUNTEER if you have to, volunteer staff aren't generally subjected to the rigorous hiring requirements as regular staff. A good volunteer will make a good employee, the agency I worked at always looked to pull from quality volunteer staff. You'll pick up skills needed that are transferable later. Getting your foot in the door is key.
Call the local United Way, they keep a comprehensive list of agencies as they fund most non profits.
Be honest, don't even think about NOT disclosing your conviction status.
More importantly, keep the faith, just as an earlier post stated, man may let you down, but He won't.
Are you INSANE? Volunteer? How am I supposed to pay bills? How am I supposed to care for a family? Are you saying that I should work for a NON PROFIT business when I'm trying to make a PROFIT to raise my kids? How stupid do you have to be to post something like this? I'm so angry at this post I don't know what to do. You try raising a family when you can't get a job. I'll 'volunteer' alright...and I'll bet it will be something that will make people like you say 'lock them all up'.
OBSIDIAN

Buffalo, NY

#123 Aug 1, 2008
PissedoffKCFelon wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you INSANE? Volunteer? How am I supposed to pay bills? How am I supposed to care for a family? Are you saying that I should work for a NON PROFIT business when I'm trying to make a PROFIT to raise my kids? How stupid do you have to be to post something like this? I'm so angry at this post I don't know what to do. You try raising a family when you can't get a job. I'll 'volunteer' alright...and I'll bet it will be something that will make people like you say 'lock them all up'.
First of all, try being a little less disgruntled and your negative tone isn't necessary. Suggestion, take it or leave it. You could've actually spent more time properly reviewing my post instead of critiquing it.

If you have time to sit on a message board w/o a JOB then you have time to volunteer. It's that simple. It's a form of networking, but you're unemployed so you obviously don't get that's what the hustle is all about. Getting someone else to see what your worth. Your bills obviously aren't getting paid whether you do or you don't, spending minimal time out of the week actually helping somebody, could eventually get you somewhere.

This post wasn't meant for you...hopefully someone with an open mind will read it and benefit.

If not, I'll lose no sleep...I've seen it work and guess what?? I HAVE a job and another one to grow on...non-profits do pay salaries, please check your facts before posting your foolishness.

Russ

Pearsall, TX

#124 Aug 9, 2008
How do I contact Patrick Danley the counsler
cbrite20b

Tacoma, WA

#125 Aug 15, 2008
Sebastian wrote:
Hello, all. Well, I'm 22 years of age and back when i was 18, I made very bad choices and ended up with 3 felonies. It was very hard on my family and I lost just about every friend I thought was a real one. I was a great student and my junior year, I lettered in academics. I've been back in society since 05 and had a job for almost two years, but left because I was verbaly and physicaly assaulted by my manager, I didn't lay a finger on my manager, but there was no action taken in the matter so I walked. I am a film actor and just finished a feature film where I played the lead role, but now that that has ended, my income is down to zero and must start looking for another job. I am also in a band, so if anyone wants to hire us to play, we'd be more than happy :) It is very hard to always be looked down on but we must be strong and continue to follow hope and believe in ourselves. Take care all and God bless.
Hi,

I am the mother of two young convicted sons (felons). I have been ministering and serving God for eighteen years. I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and invited Him in to my heart and life at 27 yrs of age. Now that my two sons age 25 and 261/2 are adults, the results of them accepting Jesus, inviting Him in and reading and praying has helped them become Counselors for other troubled people, and one is still incarcerated. Stay strong, and my prayer is that God show Himself to you in a mighty way. "God created and knows you" He has your best interest at heart Isaiah 45:4 for jacob My servants sake, and Israel (Gods creation) mine elect (chosen)(thats you) I have even called you by your name. I have surnamed you though you have not known Me (God). Also read Romans 10:9-10; Proverbs 12:1-2; Psalm 71; Matthew 8:1-13. You are Gods man and witness, He will have FAVOR on you. "go your way and as you have believed (Gods word), so will it be done unto you". Keep thanking God for his goodness no matter what....it will happen.
ZZZ

Kansas City, KS

#126 Aug 15, 2008
You still alive?
Nancy wrote:
I have been charged with 2 counts of forgery 8th degree. But I haven't been convicted yet. I cannot find employment I have done Office work and Floral design all my life. I have 4 children, no Support system basically alone in the state of Kansas my husband is divorcing me leaving me out on the street no money, no job, no hope...I have been in the hospital 3 times for suicide and about to do my fourth I can't handle this...I AM ALONE..and theres no help...I have bills and cars being repo'd I want to die...I am no use to anyone not even my children call me anymore.Someone out there please help

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