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Jelly Fish

Dawsonville, GA

#1 Jan 13, 2010
The sweetest guy helped me find what I needed at Ace Hardware today. I wish I would of caught his name... He was a younger guy, very friendly.

Since: Jun 09

Dawsonville, GA

#2 Jan 13, 2010
Nice to hear something nice :) Hope you said thank you!!
tried so hard

Hotchkiss, CO

#4 Jan 13, 2010
we're really committed to shopping local, but over the years that Ace has always put us to the test - glad to hear someone had a good experience there - for us the place is full of men who aren't really comfortable dealing with anyone except other men, who know exactly what they want, quickly...

if you're thinking of a creative solution to a problem and can almost picture it, they're no help at all, and even if you know exactly what you're talking about/looking for, if they don't personally know (and there's lots they don't know), they have no humility or interest - simply dismiss you...

the cashiers are always nice though..
Out of work

AOL

#5 Jan 14, 2010
I will never buy anything from ACE until they stop letting illegals sit in there parking lot looking for jobs, and shame on anyone who hires them hires them.
Wilma

Ellijay, GA

#6 Jan 17, 2010
I agree with out of work, there are enough people out of work in this county, without allowing illegals to perch on their fence every morning, tring to find daylabor, and knock other Americans out of work. Ace Hardware should be reported, I know that the Chicken Plant got caught a few months ago for hiring illgal aliens-so maybe the will take heekd
Overdrive

Ellijay, GA

#7 Jan 17, 2010
Wilma wrote:
I agree with out of work, there are enough people out of work in this county, without allowing illegals to perch on their fence every morning, tring to find daylabor, and knock other Americans out of work. Ace Hardware should be reported, I know that the Chicken Plant got caught a few months ago for hiring illgal aliens-so maybe the will take heekd
What are you going to report Ace for? What have they done against the law? If I needed daylabor how would I find one of these out of work Americans? Most that I have tried to hire for a day or two do not want a job, they just want to get paid. Now don't read anything into this, I have not nor will I hire an illegal. But I try and work some of the local populous and they all have so many "issues" that it makes it impossible to get a days work out of them. They want to go to work but they have to get paid "under the table" so it does not mess up there disability. Then they have to leave in the middle of the afternoon to take their wife, girlfriend, baby or mother to the doctor. Then they can't show up to work the next day because they have to stay home with their wife, girlfriend, baby or mother. And to top it all off, they want to get an advance before they ever show up at the worksite.
Wilma

Ellijay, GA

#8 Jan 17, 2010
Isn't that always the excuse? You would love to hire a local, but they have so many issues....... Well maybe if you explain the job to them, when you first hire them, explain that you do not pay under the table, and they do not get paid until their work is done-there would not be any understandings. You are using the same generalization about the locals, not everyone here looking for a job is like this. Maybe it is just your experience. Maybe you should check the local DOL and ask them who is looking for work. They have an extensive database and I am sure they would love to point you in the right direction. Last I was aware of being in this country illegally is a crime, and Ace Hardware gets plenty of business from local builders, is this a coincidence? Probably not, just an easy way to pick up day laborers and not have to pay taxes nor workers compensation on them-and yes that is a crime. You are a builder, then you should know that.
Overdrive

Ellijay, GA

#9 Jan 17, 2010
Wilma wrote:
Isn't that always the excuse? You would love to hire a local, but they have so many issues....... Well maybe if you explain the job to them, when you first hire them, explain that you do not pay under the table, and they do not get paid until their work is done-there would not be any understandings. You are using the same generalization about the locals, not everyone here looking for a job is like this. Maybe it is just your experience. Maybe you should check the local DOL and ask them who is looking for work. They have an extensive database and I am sure they would love to point you in the right direction. Last I was aware of being in this country illegally is a crime, and Ace Hardware gets plenty of business from local builders, is this a coincidence? Probably not, just an easy way to pick up day laborers and not have to pay taxes nor workers compensation on them-and yes that is a crime. You are a builder, then you should know that.
Honey, I do explain and I am told "Oh please hire me. But then we get all the issues. There are NO mis-understandings. This is my business and I run the business and if you do not like my methods, take your issues somewhere else. Which is why I do not hire from a lot of the local pool. I do now get help thru thru DOL. And you have still failed to show where Ace is breaking any laws by having folks stand in their parking lot and ask for help. If you think they are illegalls, call INS and tell them you have hit the jackpot. And by-the-way I do pay taxes and workers comp and any other taxes I must plus I have all of my Liability ins and all.
This a big reason that I am out-bid on most jobs as the local home ownwers are only looking at what someone will do the job for, not what it will cost them. And believe me, in the long run it can cost you plenty.

Since: Jun 09

Cleveland, GA

#10 Jan 18, 2010
It seems to be a neverending cycle with this issue... Illegals willing to work for next to nothing, locals not willing to work. I've seen it everywhere, not just here. If locals would be a little more dependable and actually want to "earn" the money, there would be absolutely no jobs for the illegals and they would look elsewhere.. You can't blame contractors for hiring illegals when they get the work done in most cases.
Wilma

Ellijay, GA

#11 Jan 18, 2010
I find it absolutely impossible to believe that in this economy that if a carpenter/builder were offered a decent wage, with W/C, insurance, and taxes taken out, they would be more than happy to work, rather than draw the the max $330.00 per week,(if they draw that much) suffer the humiliation) of having no job, going on welfare, food stamps, etc.
However, it always begins with the same old story...."I can't find any locals that are willing to work". I just do not find this plausible, when there are literally hundreds of people commuting to Atlanta, and Chattanooga, for jobs with benefits, insurance, and better pay. Believe it or not, several are carpenters.
As for getting the work done, how many "locals", have to go back and repair what was not done up to code, or correctly to begin with? Probably no statistics kept on that.
For those that want to hire illegals, have at it, you are still breaking the law, probably not paying taxes on them, etc, and what if they get hurt? Do you take care of them? What recourse do they have? They cannot turn you in, for fear of deportation, so it is a win-win for you. Soon they will not need you at all. They will get their amnesty, their contractor's license, and it will not be such a laughing matter for you anymore, when they put you out of business, because they have underbid you, and taken your jobs. We all know how fickle everyone can be when it comes to money. I bet then you will become righteous, and will not be able to believe that someone you took in, and "taught a trade", would take business from you. Guess what, they moved here, to raise their standards as well, not just yours. Then maybe, you can draw, hunt, fish, and collect food stamps for your own family.
As far as getting help from the DOL, I haven't seen one request come through for a carpenter, have you posted a job for a carpenter, or a builder, or any type of tradesman, most people who bother to register are pretty serious about a job. You can check the website, and see how many request that are on there for this type of help. Check the rates, and see if you could raise a family on them, if they have the nerve to even post them.
C O Jones

Jefferson, GA

#12 Jan 21, 2010
The mexicans are willing to hang out at ACE where people are in need of workers, the locals would rather hang out at Waffle King, or Waffle House waiting for someone to come looking for them.
wellll

Ellijay, GA

#14 Feb 14, 2010
i aint got anything for illigals but you gotta give them credit. at least theyre out lookin for work instead of sittin around waitin for a jpb to magically fly by
Overdrive

Ellijay, GA

#15 Feb 15, 2010
C O Jones wrote:
The mexicans are willing to hang out at ACE where people are in need of workers, the locals would rather hang out at Waffle King, or Waffle House waiting for someone to come looking for them.
Seen a guy picking up help at Ace Friday on the way in to get supplies and another one picking up help as I was leaving. Guess these two guys did not know to go over to the Waffle King. But then again, the locals have told me they would be damned if they would stand in a parking lot and wait for a job to come along. But hey, it's tax time and some of these locals just got their earned income credit so why work for the next few weeks. Look, I know it is not right, but there are a lot of folks out there that when they need help, they need help now, and they need someone that is willing to work all day mostly and not someone that has to have an advance to buy milk for the baby or to take the baby to the doctor or give them two days advance and then you never see them again. Integrity goes a long way when used right or at all.
Jerkinslotion

Ellijay, GA

#16 Feb 15, 2010
Thay Took are jobs!!
somewhatsavvy

Hotchkiss, CO

#17 Feb 15, 2010
tried so hard wrote:
we're really committed to shopping local, but over the years that Ace has always put us to the test - glad to hear someone had a good experience there - for us the place is full of men who aren't really comfortable dealing with anyone except other men, who know exactly what they want, quickly...
if you're thinking of a creative solution to a problem and can almost picture it, they're no help at all, and even if you know exactly what you're talking about/looking for, if they don't personally know (and there's lots they don't know), they have no humility or interest - simply dismiss you...
the cashiers are always nice though..
I usually shop ACE simply beause i have gotten help and suggestions from the men..can't say I ever been dismissed beause I am a woman, and sometimes I've been pretty sketchy about what I needed
Ridiculous

United States

#18 Feb 16, 2010
Talk about hijacking a post...Jelly Fish was simply attempting to give credit to a young man who assisted her and it turned into an argument about whether or not local workers are lazy and if it is against the law for illegals to stand in the ACE parking lot, which it is NOT. If it bothers any of you, start asking to see their green card, tell them you’re from INS and I guarantee they will run away in a hurry!
ExtraBucks

Kingsland, GA

#19 Feb 16, 2010
They took your jobs because you are too lazy to work for a fair price. Too many folks have been able to sit on their buts and collect food stamps and assistance. By the way I have never had a problem with anyone at ACE!! Would be willing to hire Mexicans, they actually show up and work!!
Overdrive

Ellijay, GA

#20 Feb 17, 2010
Ridiculous wrote:
Talk about hijacking a post...Jelly Fish was simply attempting to give credit to a young man who assisted her and it turned into an argument about whether or not local workers are lazy and if it is against the law for illegals to stand in the ACE parking lot, which it is NOT. If it bothers any of you, start asking to see their green card, tell them you’re from INS and I guarantee they will run away in a hurry!
Well shame on us, you are right that we did get off the original subject so, lets go back there. I have my account at Ace and have been asked by other contractors why. How can I afford their high prices and short inventory. All I got to say to that is you a'int shopping right. Ace has failed very few times to have or can get whatever I have ever needed and their prices are for the most part cheaper than the box store. Yes there are a few items that the box store beats Ace but it is very few times and not worth the effort to drive over there and change what I am doing. If I can buy a widget at Ace for $2.00 and the box store has it for $1.50 and even if I need 20 of them, it is not worth the time when I am already at Ace. Labor is much more costly than material. Granted, there are a couple of guys that are there just to have a job and act like Please do not ask me anything, but the Scot and Aron at the lumber counter, Rena in the paint department and Ronnie that looks after plumbing is top shelf personnel.
Been Around-Done That

Charlotte, NC

#21 Feb 17, 2010
Overdrive wrote:
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Well shame on us, you are right that we did get off the original subject so, lets go back there. I have my account at Ace and have been asked by other contractors why. How can I afford their high prices and short inventory. All I got to say to that is you a'int shopping right. Ace has failed very few times to have or can get whatever I have ever needed and their prices are for the most part cheaper than the box store. Yes there are a few items that the box store beats Ace but it is very few times and not worth the effort to drive over there and change what I am doing. If I can buy a widget at Ace for $2.00 and the box store has it for $1.50 and even if I need 20 of them, it is not worth the time when I am already at Ace. Labor is much more costly than material. Granted, there are a couple of guys that are there just to have a job and act like Please do not ask me anything, but the Scot and Aron at the lumber counter, Rena in the paint department and Ronnie that looks after plumbing is top shelf personnel.
I agree. I have been shopping Ace for years and am well pleased with the prices, quality, and service. As a matter of fact, I will be dropping by there today to pick up a few items. Home Depot is okay if you can find someone like Larry to help you find what you are looking for. Sometimes it can be frustrating and you wander the aisles looking for quite a while or get mis-directed by a clerk who sends you on wild goose chase! Ace is the place for the friendly hardware man (or woman)!
Been Around-Done That

Richmond, KY

#22 Feb 18, 2010
Been Around-Done That wrote:
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I agree. I have been shopping Ace for years and am well pleased with the prices, quality, and service. As a matter of fact, I will be dropping by there today to pick up a few items. Home Depot is okay if you can find someone like Larry to help you find what you are looking for. Sometimes it can be frustrating and you wander the aisles looking for quite a while or get mis-directed by a clerk who sends you on wild goose chase! Ace is the place for the friendly hardware man (or woman)!
Notice to all you bird lovers! Made the trip to Ace Hardware yesterday and bought five 20 pound bags of wild bird seed for five bucks each. Had a $5.00 off coupon on a *25.00 purchase which brought the price down to $4.00 a bag. Sure beats the price at Home Depot and even the Fannin County Co-op! Now the birds vare happy...my wife is happy...and I saved a few bucks. Hooray for Ace!

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