New Garbage Incinerator for BI
disgusted

Midlothian, IL

#328 Aug 30, 2010
No 7th ward aldermen.
Carol

AOL

#329 Aug 30, 2010
The 7th ward aldermen did not attend Thursday's meeting.
Carol

AOL

#330 Aug 31, 2010
Give This Senior a Break wrote:
Mayor Donald E. Peloquin asked the Council to approve (2) six month contracts with ISAS, Inc., and Sustainable Property Transmission.
The first company would build a municipal solid waste plant and the second will manage it.
Later in the meeting, Mayor Peloquin asked the Council to agree to a resolution that would allow Blue Island to work with the Villages of Calumet Park, Alsip, Midlothian, Posen and Robbins in finding solutions to disposing of plasma technology. Both requests were agreed to.
Mayor Peloquin said,
“This is not an incinerator.”
There had been a meeting the Friday before to discuss this.
A disc will soon be available upon request.
*Those funds could have been better spent
cleaning up the streets and
fixing sidewalks
to attract
*NEW Business(es)!
Where are they?
Carol

AOL

#331 Sep 1, 2010
Mayor Donald E. Peloquin asked the Council to approve (2) six month contracts with ISAS, Inc., and Sustainable Property Transmission.
The first company would build a municipal solid waste plant and the second will manage it.
Later in the meeting, Mayor Peloquin asked the Council to agree to a resolution that would allow Blue Island to work with the Villages of Calumet Park, Alsip, Midlothian, Posen and Robbins in finding solutions to disposing of plasma technology. Both requests were agreed to.
Mayor Peloquin said,
“This is not an incinerator.”
There had been a meeting the Friday before to discuss this.
A disc will soon be available upon request.

Have these contracts expired? Were the contracts renewed?
Glen

Joliet, IL

#332 Sep 7, 2010
You own it girl. You own it boy. You my friend, you bought it. You my friend you own it.
greed

Chicago, IL

#333 Sep 8, 2010
Glen wrote:
You own it girl. You own it boy. You my friend, you bought it. You my friend you own it.
Glen you hit the bulls eye. This is proof that you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.
Carol

AOL

#334 Sep 8, 2010
The Citizens Committee for a Clean Blue Island
VISIT OUR WEB SITE AT: BLUEISLANDPLASMA.COM

On August 26th, more than 65 residents of Blue Island, Beverly, Morgan Park and, Alsip, and attended the most recent meeting sponsored by “The Citizens Committee for a Clean Blue Island” at Evangelical Community Church in Blue Island.

The purpose of the meeting was to discuss issues relevant to the proposed plasma arc incinerator planned for the northeast area in Blue Island; and how it would impact the quality of life for residents in Blue Island and the surrounding communities.

After opening remarks by Mistress of Ceremonies Nancy Thompson, Carol DiPace-Greene discussed quality of life issues, operating problems, failure to meet pollution standards encountered by plasma arc waste disposal units in other countries, and economic risk; as evidenced by cities in and outside of Illinois.

Ronald Young discussed the need for careful feasibility, cost studies, and market study
for the byproducts from plasma arc units before seeking state approval to form a cooperative to build such a unit. Young expressed grave concerns over the ability of any kind of incinerator to compete with the cost of disposing of municipal solid waste in landfills.

Mayor Donald Peloquin of Blue Island then spoke of his desire to have the plasma arc unit in Blue Island so that low cost electrical and solid byproducts would act as a catalyst to attract new industrial growth and jobs to the area.

State Representative Robert Rita explained the reason Illinois House Bill (HB-4664) remains in committee is that this piece of legislation was currently lacking sufficient data; and this bill if passed; will enable Blue Island and the five neighboring communities to form a quasi-governmental cooperative company with unelected administrators that would have; among other rights, the power to seize land under a modified eminent domain law, the right to enter into no bid contracts, and the right to sell bonds to private investors.

Questions and comments from the floor ranged the gamut of resident concerns.

Mr. Ken Bergeron of Morgan Park spoke on the subject of the poor quality of 119th St.,
the further impact that heavily loaded garbage trucks would have on the road surface,
traffic, and rail car congestion in that area. The mayor of Alsip attempted to alter the meeting; by urging meeting leaders to allow representatives of an organization known as ForeLight, LLC.(an advocacy group working with Mayor Peloquin) to make a presentation on behalf of plasma arc incineration. Blue Island Alderman Gerald Hall
eloquently informed the Mayor of Alsip that this meeting was organized by an organization of Blue Island residents who had the right to set their own agenda.

State Representative Will Davis suggested a future meeting feature a representative from the Illinois EPA.

Among those in attendance were; State Representative Will Davis,
State Representative Robert Rita, Blue Island Mayor Donald Peloquin,

Blue Island Aldermen Gerald Hall, Alderman Mike Janko, Alderman Dexter Johnson, Alderman Jan Ostling, Alderman Marcia Stone, Alderman Leticia Viera, Blue Island Treasurer Carmine Bilotto,
Alsip Mayor Patrick Kitching, and
Representatives from: State Senator Edward D. Maloney, Chicago Alderman Carrie Austin, and Chicago Alderman Virginia Rugai's office.

The next meeting of The Citizens for a Clean Blue Island will be held Wednesday,
October 6, 2010; at 7:00 pm.

Featured topics of discussion will include a presentation by ForeLight, LLC. and Illinois House Bill 4664. It is hoped Rep. Monique D. Davis will attend to explain the details of the proposed legislation and the EPA.
GANGSTERDISCIPLE

United States

#335 Sep 8, 2010
None of us of the blood were asked to attend...why? We can provide security and make sure nobody screws with you people.
another thought

Midlothian, IL

#336 Sep 8, 2010
Carol wrote:
The Citizens Committee for a Clean Blue Island
VISIT OUR WEB SITE AT: BLUEISLANDPLASMA.COM
On August 26th, more than 65 residents of Blue Island, Beverly, Morgan Park and, Alsip, and attended the most recent meeting sponsored by “The Citizens Committee for a Clean Blue Island” at Evangelical Community Church in Blue Island.
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss issues relevant to the proposed plasma arc incinerator planned for the northeast area in Blue Island; and how it would impact the quality of life for residents in Blue Island and the surrounding communities.
After opening remarks by Mistress of Ceremonies Nancy Thompson, Carol DiPace-Greene discussed quality of life issues, operating problems, failure to meet pollution standards encountered by plasma arc waste disposal units in other countries, and economic risk; as evidenced by cities in and outside of Illinois.
Ronald Young discussed the need for careful feasibility, cost studies, and market study
for the byproducts from plasma arc units before seeking state approval to form a cooperative to build such a unit. Young expressed grave concerns over the ability of any kind of incinerator to compete with the cost of disposing of municipal solid waste in landfills.
Mayor Donald Peloquin of Blue Island then spoke of his desire to have the plasma arc unit in Blue Island so that low cost electrical and solid byproducts would act as a catalyst to attract new industrial growth and jobs to the area.
State Representative Robert Rita explained the reason Illinois House Bill (HB-4664) remains in committee is that this piece of legislation was currently lacking sufficient data; and this bill if passed; will enable Blue Island and the five neighboring communities to form a quasi-governmental cooperative company with unelected administrators that would have; among other rights, the power to seize land under a modified eminent domain law, the right to enter into no bid contracts, and the right to sell bonds to private investors.
Questions and comments from the floor ranged the gamut of resident concerns.
Mr. Ken Bergeron of Morgan Park spoke on the subject of the poor quality of 119th St.,
the further impact that heavily loaded garbage trucks would have on the road surface,
traffic, and rail car congestion in that area. The mayor of Alsip attempted to alter the meeting; by urging meeting leaders to allow representatives of an organization known as ForeLight, LLC.(an advocacy group working with Mayor Peloquin) to make a presentation on behalf of plasma arc incineration. Blue Island Alderman Gerald Hall
eloquently informed the Mayor of Alsip that this meeting was organized by an organization of Blue Island residents who had the right to set their own agenda.
State Representative Will Davis suggested a future meeting feature a representative from the Illinois EPA.
Among those in attendance were; State Representative Will Davis,
State Representative Robert Rita, Blue Island Mayor Donald Peloquin,
Blue Island Aldermen Gerald Hall, Alderman Mike Janko, Alderman Dexter Johnson, Alderman Jan Ostling, Alderman Marcia Stone, Alderman Leticia Viera, Blue Island Treasurer Carmine Bilotto,
Alsip Mayor Patrick Kitching, and
Representatives from: State Senator Edward D. Maloney, Chicago Alderman Carrie Austin, and Chicago Alderman Virginia Rugai's office.
The next meeting of The Citizens for a Clean Blue Island will be held Wednesday,
October 6, 2010; at 7:00 pm.
Featured topics of discussion will include a presentation by ForeLight, LLC. and Illinois House Bill 4664. It is hoped Rep. Monique D. Davis will attend to explain the details of the proposed legislation and the EPA.
Why would Concerned Citiizens for a Clean Blue Island allow Forelight give a presentation at THEIR meeting? IF the mayors Peloquin and Kitching want a meeting, they can go to the time and expense of organizing it. They have been promising public meetings anyhow. Don't play the mayor's game!!
fiftyone

Chicago, IL

#338 Sep 8, 2010
GANGSTERDISCIPLE wrote:
None of us of the blood were asked to attend...why? We can provide security and make sure nobody screws with you people.
just start a garbage dump on top of all exisiting structure between 127th and the canal, no cost to the taxpayer. pile it up real high and then make a ski mountain in the winter. we can have 1st of its kind under garbage world of business, tonys booze and oxygen, t and g hotdogs and rabies shot, confessions in trash mountain. now there is some forward thinking.
justme

Normal, IL

#339 Sep 8, 2010
Seems to me your bringing an emotional reaction on just the word incinerator. Most of the issues in the past with plasma arc gasification has been that the ones that have here in the US tried to get the plants built are personally just scum bags with no creditable past projects built in the US.
Money is their driving force.
I am an environmental since the 70's I support a plasma arc gasifier in any community.

BUT

It must have 24/7 air quality monitoring with transparent online access by anyone.
It should not cost 450 million dollars.
(no matter who is ponying up the money)
The company building it MUST have previous building and operation of a facility that employs the us of a gas plasma arc.
What is also key is that the waste is limited to certain items. That a sampling of the waste should occur before entry into the chamber where there is no oxygen. The operators of this type of facility should welcome and operationally should WHAT to know what is going in to run the plasma arc the most efficient manner.

So you want public safety and transparency you have it.
Not in my Blue Island back yard !!!!
Drive down I-55 to Pontiac Illinois see their landfill. Oh I should tell you watch for all the really tall garage trailers going to Pontiac from Chicago land. How nice of that community take all the garbage for well over 16 years. Gee they allow this in their back yard. That landfill will not go away forever. How about you allow a good solution with solid safe guards and transparency in air quality ? That reduces the waste, is environmentally better than a landfill (ground water), and oh might provide some jobs.
If you Google Westinghouse you will see that this is solid technology. In this case you should look past the messager and really look at the science.
Which sadly for Illinois's education system that many of us are products of may be hard to comprehend.

Check the emotions and get to know the facts on YOUR own. Do not blindly trust my words or anyone's in a online blog. Find your OWN facts.
Anyone can cut and paste parts of a discussion from the EPA or from a newspaper. But know the real facts.
I support a facility that is open, transparent, PROACTIVE in monitoring air quality, and in monitoring what is allowed into the plasma arc gasifier. See you at the public hearing in Oct.
justme

Normal, IL

#340 Sep 8, 2010
Oh yes do not put the Illinois EPA in the middle of this. They just enforce some very out dated laws that do not come close to all the technology changes that have occurred and not just in the plasma arc discussion.

Change the laws of Illinois to match the real science that exists.

Sorry Illinois EPA does not and will never allow a landfill to be a ski slope. Unless you like smelling like methane in the winter. Oh yes there is these laws from the Federal EPA that Illinois must work on enforcing with them.
How uninformed are you on the future and past on landfills ?

Not in my backyard mentality is putting any increase needed for landfills virtually with no growth. Yet we keep tossing things on the curb.
And in the ronald mc donald bin.
little tony 218

Melrose Park, IL

#341 Sep 8, 2010
greed wrote:
<quoted text>
Glen you hit the bulls eye. This is proof that you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.
It seems to me the good peoples, are finally waking up.
Carol

AOL

#342 Sep 8, 2010
little tony 218 wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems to me the good peoples, are finally waking up.
Dear Little Tony,
If you are a 17 year old senior in high school attending a District 218 High School; you will be 67 years old and a senior citizen when the 50 year old bonds are finally paid off.

Check out the September 8, 2010 edition of the Wall Street Journal;
Harrisburg, Pa. can not pay their incinerator bond debt and that should be a WAKE-UP call for ALL!
fiftyone

Skokie, IL

#343 Sep 9, 2010
justme wrote:
Oh yes do not put the Illinois EPA in the middle of this. They just enforce some very out dated laws that do not come close to all the technology changes that have occurred and not just in the plasma arc discussion.
Change the laws of Illinois to match the real science that exists.
Sorry Illinois EPA does not and will never allow a landfill to be a ski slope. Unless you like smelling like methane in the winter. Oh yes there is these laws from the Federal EPA that Illinois must work on enforcing with them.
How uninformed are you on the future and past on landfills ?
Not in my backyard mentality is putting any increase needed for landfills virtually with no growth. Yet we keep tossing things on the curb.
And in the ronald mc donald bin.
i have no idea what point you are trying to make. if you are enrolled at ISU, please consider taking a writing or communication class. if you have a valid point you fail to make it, but to be sure, even those who stand to financially gain, ie. friends and family of peloquin, can not validate this terrible plasma idea.
bottom line is there is no magic arc, when garbage is burned, it creates pollution. we dont want garbage burned in our heavily populated area. go build this monstrosity on a farm in indiana.
Decker Bros Const

Blue Island, IL

#344 Sep 9, 2010
Please let our buddy Donny build the plasma arc thing-a-ma-jig so we can dig the hole and get over paid with your tax dollars?
FredforMayor

United States

#345 Sep 9, 2010
Fred Bilotto has a new way of looking at things and has the drive & imagination to make them come true. Carol has made many a comment to others that Blue Island can not do worse with Fred at the helm of city government. This nuisance lawsuit will be disposed of soon and real progress can begin with the elimination of Peloquin first.
Let the people of Blue Island know that Fred Bilotto can and should be the leader of the future of Blue Island as Carol has alluded to. Let's get behind Fred and guarantee Blue Island's integrity.
straight talk

Elmhurst, IL

#346 Sep 9, 2010
Is this a joke?
straight talk

Elmhurst, IL

#347 Sep 9, 2010
FredforMayor wrote:
Fred Bilotto has a new way of looking at things and has the drive & imagination to make them come true. Carol has made many a comment to others that Blue Island can not do worse with Fred at the helm of city government. This nuisance lawsuit will be disposed of soon and real progress can begin with the elimination of Peloquin first.
Let the people of Blue Island know that Fred Bilotto can and should be the leader of the future of Blue Island as Carol has alluded to. Let's get behind Fred and guarantee Blue Island's integrity.
Fred is just another appendage hanging off of bob rita kinda like a 3rd nut?
Roadkill

Niles, MI

#348 Sep 9, 2010
Very difficult to stand behind Fred in light of the events at the Park District. As President of the Board he either should of made that party an 'Official' event with a lighted pool area and lifeguards present (insurance requirements) or not have allowed it at all. This clearly showed a serious lapse in judgement and purely from a political standpoint makes him a no-go.

The current lawsuit is not a 'nuisance' lawsuit and while I do not place the blame squarely on Fred, to characterize it that way gives little respect to the life that was lost.

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