Scott Kramer

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Did anyone know or have heard that Scott Kramer of Willow Springs died this morning in an accident. Along with another man possibley named Ward that was injured. Any info???

[whatever]

Oh my goodness. No I had not heard that. Will do some checking.

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From what I can find out it is true. Happened between Gainesville and Theodosia. He and Ward Griffin were going fishing. Ran off the road, threw him out, and his head hit a rock and the truck landed on top of him. This is all hear say but came from a reliable source. They said it happened about 7:30 last night.

[wondering]

oh thanks for the info, we had heard it was this morning. His wife is a friend of my moms (Debbie) You just never know what is going to happen. If you or anyone hears anything else please keep us posted. I am sure my mom will call Debbie later, just didnt want to make a bunch of calls to the house.

[whatever]

Same here. I sent word by the Millners (from her church) to let us all know if there is anything we can do. Debbie is such a sweet person and has been through so much.

[curious]

yeah she is really nice..helping at munch also. I forgot who is with her at the house taking phone calls for now but I am sure we will get funeral details come monday. SAD SAD you just never know like I said, Thanks for all ur input "whatever"

[wow]

A registered sex offender from Willow Springs has filed a civil lawsuit against Howell County Sheriff Robbie Crites.

Scott Kramer is the petitioner in the suit, filed Friday in Howell County Circuit Court. He is represented by Jacob Y. Garrett of Garrett & Silvey attorneys at law in West Plains.

The suit states that on Aug. 28, 2001, Kramer entered a guilty plea in Pennsylvania for a misdemeanor offense of indecent assault, according to the laws of Pennsylvania.

After the guilty plea, Kramer was sentenced to the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections and started his sentence Sept. 11, 2001. He was released on parole Feb. 27, 2002.

Kramer later moved to Missouri, the suit says, and transferred his parole to Missouri. At that time, he was required by his parole officer to register as a sex offender. Kramer now has completed his parole, but is still being required by the sheriff to register as a sex offender.

The suit states Kramer believes that under statutes on the date of his conviction – Aug. 28, 2001 – he would not have been made to register as a sex offender.

“The crime for which the petitioner pled guilty to in Pennsylvania constituted a misdemeanor offense and thus was not a registerable offense under the applicable statute that was then in effect in Missouri on the 28th day of August, 2001,” the suit says.

The suit further states that Kramer wouldn’t have been required to register as a sex offender in Pennsylvania if he still lived there since he pled guilty to a misdemeanor.

The petition filed in the suit also states that laws of this nature “could not be applied retroactively to an individual requiring them to register as a sex offender for a crime committed prior to statutory requirements.”

Kramer is asking that the court find he “is not required to register under Missouri law as a sex offender,” as well as “for an order directing the sheriff to remove the name of the

[whatever]

Wow, just what the hell does that have to do with the fact that the man was killed last night? What a cheap shot. You don't know the whole story, nor do I, but that was uncalled for. I'm sure his wife and family have enough to deal with without you putting crap like that on here.

[HOG]

WOW, YOU ARE A REAL A-HOLE.

[curious]

yeah what the hell does that have to do with anything now the poor guy is dead, Leave it at that. It was a tragic accident. I am sure all of use are aware of the newspapaer article but that is not what we are discussing here. I could care less what the quy did in is past, seems to me he was making a good life now with his family. Thats all that really matters.

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To: Curious and Whatever
It is really sad about the death of Scott Kramer and his family, and I'm not here to talk bad about him. I do have something to say to both of you though in regards to your comments on another forum, in which both of you commented on this individual. I'm not trying to bring Robin McDaniel into this forum, but you both make me sick how you talk out of both sides of your mouth bringing up Robin's past and then preach that "Wow" shouldn't be bringing up someone elses past and how it isn't anybodies business. You mentioned his family, well guess what, Robin has little boy that doesn't need trash like yourself starting rumors about her either. Like you said, even if it's true it's still none of your business. If your doing it for kicks well guess what, you better be ready to take it back. The charges from the Highway Patrol party were dropped because she didn't commit a crime and the highway troopers that were there would have been arrested as well for paying. I have my right to my opinion as well as anybody else, and Scott Kramer's crime is public info. Get a life!

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Damn shame that you think Robin McDaniel is important enough to be brought into every thread on this forum. "WOW" brought this up at a time that was not appropriate. His grieving family did not deserve that and he certainly isn't alive to defend himself. Robin seems to have you idiots to defend her.

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whatever loser, you helped keep her thread going, so deal with it.