Anonymous

Loudon, TN

#21 Jul 11, 2013
Wildcater wrote:
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I don't understand why people think there is no representation of the firemen on the board. There are 4 board members each with over 30 years as a Deep Gap fireman. They may be retired but they are still Deep Gap firemen at heart. To say that these men do not care about the firemen or the department is ludicrous.


They may have been firemen at one point but the fire service has changed drastically over the past thirty years..Just because they serve on the board does not mean they have any fire service experience.
Deep Gaper

Morganton, NC

#22 Jul 11, 2013
John Q wrote:
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Now you're going off topic and making yourself look like a fool.
Let's be honest, Mr. John Q. Money is the heart of this fight, and anyone who denies that is a fool. You either make a decision that is for the betterment of the community and gain nothing financially, or you make the choice that provides personal gain. I know a few of these fellas all too well. Just wish everyone else did too.
Deep Gaper

Morganton, NC

#23 Jul 11, 2013
I'm done. Enjoy your tiny arguments.
Ponder

Hickory, NC

#24 Jul 11, 2013
There are 4 retired firemen that sit on the board. I truly do not understand why people think that it should be a 50/50 fire department. The 4 retired firemen have enough expierence and understanding to know what the fire department needs. It blows my mind to think that Chief Mark Parsons behaved the way he did.
1) Almost everything that he said at the fire meeting was a lie. The numbers were incorrect. THe Chief does get paid a certain amount every year.
2) When the vote did not go the way he wanted he looked over at the firemen and said well what are we going to do? Some of firemen threw there radios and pagers on the table. They said we just quit. To me that was there decision. The fire department needs a Chief that is responsible and a role model. Not one who initates the firemen to quit.
3) No offense but I do not think that I would want any of those firemen that acted the way they did on a Volunteer Fire Department.
4) The Chief sits on the Fire Department board and to me that is enough of a representation of the firemen and firewomen.
I truly think that they need to get rid of Mark Pasons and everyone of the firefighters that threw down the equipment. The only ones that should be allowed to stay is the ones that was not at the meeting. I think that the firefighters need to respect the board.
John Q

Boone, NC

#25 Jul 11, 2013
Ponder wrote:
There are 4 retired firemen that sit on the board. I truly do not understand why people think that it should be a 50/50 fire department. The 4 retired firemen have enough expierence and understanding to know what the fire department needs. It blows my mind to think that Chief Mark Parsons behaved the way he did.
1) Almost everything that he said at the fire meeting was a lie. The numbers were incorrect. THe Chief does get paid a certain amount every year.
2) When the vote did not go the way he wanted he looked over at the firemen and said well what are we going to do? Some of firemen threw there radios and pagers on the table. They said we just quit. To me that was there decision. The fire department needs a Chief that is responsible and a role model. Not one who initates the firemen to quit.
3) No offense but I do not think that I would want any of those firemen that acted the way they did on a Volunteer Fire Department.
4) The Chief sits on the Fire Department board and to me that is enough of a representation of the firemen and firewomen.
I truly think that they need to get rid of Mark Pasons and everyone of the firefighters that threw down the equipment. The only ones that should be allowed to stay is the ones that was not at the meeting. I think that the firefighters need to respect the board.
Nicely put. I think that anybody who was willing to walk away should pack their bags and hit the road. I intend to push for it at the next meeting. The fact that they were willing to leave their entire community hanging is shameful. And the fact that the Chief led them in that direction is a disgrace.
Anonymous

Greenville, SC

#26 Jul 11, 2013
Ponder wrote:
There are 4 retired firemen that sit on the board. I truly do not understand why people think that it should be a 50/50 fire department. The 4 retired firemen have enough expierence and understanding to know what the fire department needs. It blows my mind to think that Chief Mark Parsons behaved the way he did.
1) Almost everything that he said at the fire meeting was a lie. The numbers were incorrect. THe Chief does get paid a certain amount every year.
2) When the vote did not go the way he wanted he looked over at the firemen and said well what are we going to do? Some of firemen threw there radios and pagers on the table. They said we just quit. To me that was there decision. The fire department needs a Chief that is responsible and a role model. Not one who initates the firemen to quit.
3) No offense but I do not think that I would want any of those firemen that acted the way they did on a Volunteer Fire Department.
4) The Chief sits on the Fire Department board and to me that is enough of a representation of the firemen and firewomen.
I truly think that they need to get rid of Mark Pasons and everyone of the firefighters that threw down the equipment. The only ones that should be allowed to stay is the ones that was not at the meeting. I think that the firefighters need to respect the board.
I agree the chief needs to be replaced and let the ones follow him that want to go. But again, the 4 board members DO NOT have the experience you think they do. The fire service is not at all the way it was 30 years ago. They might have known what was best for the department at that time, but now now.
Joe

Boone, NC

#27 Jul 11, 2013
incognito89 wrote:
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I agree the chief needs to be replaced and let the ones follow him that want to go. But again, the 4 board members DO NOT have the experience you think they do. The fire service is not at all the way it was 30 years ago. They might have known what was best for the department at that time, but now now.
How has firefighting evolved over the past 30 years? I'm not trying to pick a fight, but only trying to better understand the situation.
incognito89

Greenville, SC

#28 Jul 11, 2013
Joe wrote:
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How has firefighting evolved over the past 30 years? I'm not trying to pick a fight, but only trying to better understand the situation.
There has been a huge change in the type of equipment used including trucks, safety equipment, tools, communication equipment, etc. These are things fire departments must keep up-to-date in order to comply with state and federal regulations. Boards members think the same equipment can be used today that was used when they were firemen. When you go to them for money to buy new equipment they do not understand why new equipment is needed at such a high price. Many of the people commenting on this forum think that firefighting only consists of spraying water on a fire, and they are completely wrong. It is much more involved than that, and most all of these people could not complete the training required and obtain the certifications that today's firefighters are required to have.
Ponder

Lenoir, NC

#29 Jul 11, 2013
The 4 men that are retired firefighters stay up to date. Yes...things have evolved over the last 30 years however things have not changed that much. One of the board members was a fire chief and served on the department for a number of years. The basic is exactly the same as it was thirty years ago. I would rather have men on the board that knew something about the equipment that is needed. No one needs to sit on a board who has no prior knowledge of fire fighting.
John Q

Boone, NC

#30 Jul 11, 2013
I somewhat disagree with the statement that all board members should have firefighting experience. I would vote for someone with medical training, or no training at all, if their ties in the community are deep enough. Plus, the ones with the fire and medical experience could guide and explain what is and is not needed for the department.
Wildcater

Wilmington, NC

#31 Jul 11, 2013
incognito89 wrote:
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There has been a huge change in the type of equipment used including trucks, safety equipment, tools, communication equipment, etc. These are things fire departments must keep up-to-date in order to comply with state and federal regulations. Boards members think the same equipment can be used today that was used when they were firemen. When you go to them for money to buy new equipment they do not understand why new equipment is needed at such a high price. Many of the people commenting on this forum think that firefighting only consists of spraying water on a fire, and they are completely wrong. It is much more involved than that, and most all of these people could not complete the training required and obtain the certifications that today's firefighters are required to have.
One of the board members comented that the only request for equipment that was denied by the board was the purchase of an ATV. Everything else that the department requested was approved by the board and purchased.
noname

Lenoir, NC

#32 Jul 11, 2013
To Mr. JohnQ statement.....
The board makes sure it is within limits. The firefighters have gotten everything they have requested expect for a 4-wheeler. They have access to 4 4-wheelers if they need them. If they had one they would use it for there oen personal use. Just like them driving the fire trucks up and doen the road just to drive them. That is totally unnecssary. I am tired of people making comments that have no earthly idea what is really going on. If you have lived in the Deep Gap area then you should have an idea how the firefighters abuse there rights to the equipment. I know there is one particular fireman that is under the age of 21 and he drives the fire trucks up and down the road for no reason. Those trucks are only suppose to be driven to a fire call, to be worked on, or to be fueled. The citizens are tired of the firefighters
wasting the money. Another thing they do not have respect for the ones who live near the fire ddepartment. Some of them are blowing the fire whistle and blowing the horns on the trucks late at night when the elderly are already asleep at 10 pm. Deep Gap Citizens are tired of the disrespect.

If you could only have seen them marching in late to the meeting and disrupting the meeting. It was so rude of those firefighters. I would be ashamed to face the public with the way they acted. Everyone of them including the Chief should ve dismissed. They should thought about the consequences before they carried out there actions. I think that the people in the community is ready for change. We say let them go...enough is enough...it is time for a change.
John Q

Boone, NC

#33 Jul 11, 2013
No name:
I can see the fire department from my house. I know what goes on, and how late they play with the trucks. That's part of the reason I was there on Tuesday night. I'm tired of the Chief letting the members run wild and do what they want. It is absolutely uncalled for the Chief to let people, mainly his boys, use the fire department property as their playground.
Tom

Lenoir, NC

#34 Jul 11, 2013
Board members shouldn't have to have firefighting experience. if the chief does his job an presents the board with the information they need about equipment, and why the department needs that equipment, there should be no reason for the board members to have experience.
Jon doe

Boone, NC

#35 Jul 11, 2013
The 4 retired firemen that sit on the board still are passionate for the fire department. If you think about it...if it was not for those 4 men Deep Gap might not even have a volunteer fire department. Those men worked the chicken BBQ and fought there heart and soul. Now....most of the firemen do not even care about the fire department. They just do it to look big and be able to run strobe lights on the trucks or cars. I would say that if those men had to pull off a chicken BBQ they could not do it. I thought that was a promise to the community that they would continue to do the BBQ to help raise money for the fire department. One more thing....Mark Parsons is not the only one that is writing those grants. If it was not for one firefighter that does not even serve anymore they would not have received those grants. I want to say cheers to the one that actually done the work. It is time Mark Parsons is dismissed from fire Chief and all the ones that threw down the pagers need to go to. We need a Chief who can be reasonable, responsbible, mature and can control the firefighters. They need one that the firemen can look up to and not be afraid of. God Bless the Volunteer Fire Department.
DeepRootedGapper

Morganton, NC

#36 Jul 12, 2013
Just curious, after you dismiss the Chief and all the other VOLUNTEERS, where are you going to find the qualified and trained replacements to fight fires for free.

How about considering term limits to keep the BOD honest, energized, and thinking for the community instead of themselves. I am certain it will be much easier to find qualified folks to sit on the Board, than it will be to find those willing to get out of bed at 3:00 in the morning to fight a fire. I think I have a pretty good idea of what it takes to qualify someone to fight fires, but would be curious what does it take to qualify someone to be on the BOD? I suspect they both require being part of a good ol' boy brotherhood, just two different kinds.

Lived here all my life and never knew of the secret workings of the DGFD BOD. I think they should focus more on publishing their activities where the public can view them.
Joe

Boone, NC

#37 Jul 12, 2013
I agree that the Board should publish their activities. But that is a two way street. The Chief should do the same. How could he possibly think it was ok to pay his wife and kids nearly 10 grand to paint the fire department? That was nothing criminal, but highly questionable and grounds for dismissal.

Now, to your other point. Could we find trained replacements for the volunteers that walked out? Sure! You go to neighboring districts and pull a few of their guys for a short term deal while you train new members who would never screw over their community like the current members. Then, bam! Problem solved.
Bootlegger

Boone, NC

#38 Jul 12, 2013
Before this all blows up I need my swimming pool filled up. Word is that they will come on your dime and the fire dep. water and fill your pool. Just take a number
Bootlegger

Boone, NC

#39 Jul 12, 2013
By your dime I mean tax payers!
Owl23

Boone, NC

#40 Jul 12, 2013
Ok here is the thing, everyone needs to realize the following:
1) Not ALL of the fire fighters participated in the disgraceful showing put on by the Chief and his followers. DGFD still have firefighters which are here for community and not their on selfish needs or wants and are ready to respond. The county is also prepared to back those firefighters up without hesitation.
2) It actually is very hard to find someone willing to serve on the board. And surprisingly enough different citizens in the community at random are asked if they would like to serve on the board. As of right now the BOD consists of the following 3 private business owners, 1 farmer, 2 retirees, 1 carpenter. Yes 4 of which are retired DGFD members.
3) There is nothing secret about the DGFD BOD. Almost everything in which they do is public record, minus such areas which are protected by law .. Example is a personnel issue. So if you want to know then go ask one of the directors and they will be more than happy to help.
4) what Chief Parsons has done is criminal in nature ... It's called misappropriation of funds. Make no mistake this is not as simple as a one time incident. It is time for a new Chief without a drought.

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