Speed Blamed in Wreck That Killed 2 Firefighters

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Two North Carolina men have been killed when their sports car slid into the path of another vehicle, injuring a Florida couple. Full Story
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Mike

Clemmons, NC

#1 Mar 22, 2010
Let the ignorant comments about how bad sports cars are begin...

“Bite me!”

Since: Oct 09

Marion

#2 Mar 22, 2010
Mike wrote:
Let the ignorant comments about how bad sports cars are begin...
Not a thing to do with sport-cars, but with irresponsible young drivers behind the wheels. Another senseless and sad tragedy that was totally avoidable. 75mph on a rain-soaked road by someone who was supposed to be all about safety..a firefighter. I hate it for these young lives that are now gone, but this is an example of why these young immature kids do not need to be in the business of any type of rescue and/or law enforcement. Go ahead now and bash the hell out of me....everyone knows they're dying to....and as usual....I can take it!
law dog

Moore, SC

#3 Mar 22, 2010
agreed pg, and it didn't have to be a sports car. its the drivers typically, not the car at fault.

“Cynical Scumbag”

Since: Jan 10

Lima Peru

#5 Mar 22, 2010
20 and 23 yo's are not kids. I have over 2 million miles on the road and I worry much more about the senile fossils attempting to drive than I do "kids".
cobra302

Moore, SC

#6 Mar 22, 2010
def not the mustangs fault; hard to tell but it almost appeared as if front tire was bald from one of the photos which if were the case adds to the contributing factors. folks really push their tires too far and hydroplaning is a big issue.
Young Firefighter

High Point, NC

#7 Mar 22, 2010
Parental Guidance wrote:
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Not a thing to do with sport-cars, but with irresponsible young drivers behind the wheels. Another senseless and sad tragedy that was totally avoidable. 75mph on a rain-soaked road by someone who was supposed to be all about safety..a firefighter. I hate it for these young lives that are now gone, but this is an example of why these young immature kids do not need to be in the business of any type of rescue and/or law enforcement. Go ahead now and bash the hell out of me....everyone knows they're dying to....and as usual....I can take it!
So now because I am 20 and a legal adult I don't need to be in the fire service? Get real, how often do you speed going down the interstate? I go seventy down the interstate, 5 above the speedlimit, and I get passed left and right. Usually, these people aren't young kids but middle aged adults. So, why don't you respect them and their families. This could happen to anyone and everybody makes mistakes at every age.

RIP brothers
anonymous44

High Point, NC

#8 Mar 22, 2010
Combination of many factors, likely including age, weather conditions, speed and other distractions. To chastise two young firefighters for getting into an accident in which speed was a factor is more than irresponsible, and comments such as those do very little positive for anyone involved.
I find it also a bit silly to suggest sports cars do not come with their own baggage. Do you slip into a Trans-Am, Mustang or Corvette and think how slow can this puppy go? No, you want to rev it up and see how she feels on the open road. Couple with the aforementioned scenarios of the day and driving a sports car certainly does equate negatively into the equation.
There is a reason insurance is significantly higher to drive such a vehicle as they do have a proportionally higher amount of speeding tickets and/or vehicular accidents.
My prayers go out to everyone involved by this.
Rick

Greenville, SC

#9 Mar 22, 2010
Below is the article from the mcdowell news...

Three people, including two firefighters returning home from this weekend's Fire & Rescue College, were killed in two separate wrecks on McDowell roads this weekend, troopers say.
At approximately 3 p.m. Sunday, in a heavy downpour, a black Mustang traveling north on U.S. 221 at the U.S. Forest Service work center in Woodlawn hydroplaned and slid sideways into the southbound lane, according to First Sgt. Stuart Mitchell of the N.C. Highway Patrol.
The Mustang smashed into a Chrysler, causing the Mustang to break long-ways into two pieces.
Mitchell said the two occupants of the Mustang, who were killed, were members of Blowing Rock Fire Department.
The two occupants of the Chrysler were taken by ambulance to Memorial Mission Hospital.
Further information, including the identities of the wreck victims, was unavailable at deadline.
Read Tuesday's McDowell News for an updated report.
In a separate incident, a Buncombe County man was killed after losing control of and wrecking his new motorcycle on Interstate 40 Saturday night.
Bruce Charles Templeton, 53, of Asheville died at the scene of the crash at mile marker 78.
At 9:55 p.m., Templeton was driving his 2009 Kawaski west, when he ran off the left side of the pavement and hit the guardrail, according to a report by Trooper R.W. Monosso of the N.C. Highway Patrol.
Sgt. Kevin Owens said Templeton just bought the motorcycle Friday in Raleigh and was on his way back home when the wreck occurred.
Monosso listed speed as a contributing factor to the fatal crash, but preliminary reports did not estimate how fast the motorcycle was traveling.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#10 Mar 22, 2010
As a firefighter of 5 years i've been too and have seen alot of wreaks of all age's some it's the cars some it's the drivers but for some of the younger ones to get into the fire dept. i thanks it's good for them so maybe it will keep them out of trouble it's good for anyone too join the fire&rescue service it would show you what it takes to be a fire fighter and would show you how much you care about others when you get back up as soon as you just get too lay down at 2-3 in the morning after a long day at work just to go help some body out so no 20-25 is not too young too be a fire fighter
Oh no Mr Bill

Greenville, SC

#11 Mar 22, 2010
There is no "magic" number when someone becomes an adult! I have seen very mature (adult) 15 year olds and I have seen very immature (children) 50 year olds.

It boils down to maturity and how one handles themselves in a situation.

It appears the driver did not have complete control of the car and/or distracted and/or made a quick maneuver and/or a host of other things. The bottom line is there are two families without sons, brothers, and a loved one.

I hope everyone will remember these two the next time you are in a car, on a soaked road, and decide to speed.

RIP and thank you for giving of your time as a fire fighter.
firefighter

Asheboro, NC

#12 Mar 22, 2010
I am a volunteer firefighter myself and have many co-workers who were attending this weekend seminar. Many of whom are in their twenties. It is absurd to say that someone that age shouldn't be allowed in the fire service. Everyone makes mistakes including those who work in emergency services, they just didn't get a second chance here.

“Cynical Scumbag”

Since: Jan 10

Lima Peru

#13 Mar 22, 2010
I started driving a school bus when I was a "irresponsible" 16-1/2. I got a class A to drive a tractor-trailer when I turned a irresposible 18. Never hurt anyone until a senile old fossil decided to run a stop sign in front of me.
SRE

Winston Salem, NC

#14 Mar 22, 2010
FTM-PTB-KTF
Randy

Lincolnton, NC

#15 Mar 22, 2010
One of the work wrecks Ihave ever seen. The Mustang was demolished beyond recognition. Took a while to figure out if there were three cars or just two. The engine block was sitting on top o ftwo wheels 30 yards from the car. That road is bad about hydroplaning becaue of water pooling. For that much damage, they must have been going fast.

“Bite me!”

Since: Oct 09

Marion

#16 Mar 22, 2010
smutt butt wrote:
20 and 23 yo's are not kids. I have over 2 million miles on the road and I worry much more about the senile fossils attempting to drive than I do "kids".
Then you need to reconnect with reality with this generation we have now. 20 and 23 were all considered adults and ostly responsible when we were that age, but now, immaturity lasts much longer. I don't give a damn how many miles you have on the roads. There are many truckers out there who call themselves professional drivers who are the most dangerous idiots on the roads.

“Bite me!”

Since: Oct 09

Marion

#17 Mar 22, 2010
cobra302 wrote:
def not the mustangs fault; hard to tell but it almost appeared as if front tire was bald from one of the photos which if were the case adds to the contributing factors. folks really push their tires too far and hydroplaning is a big issue.
Some of our roads are poorly designed with not enough crown to allow proper drainage and it doesn't matter how good the tires are.

“Bite me!”

Since: Oct 09

Marion

#18 Mar 22, 2010
Young Firefighter wrote:
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So now because I am 20 and a legal adult I don't need to be in the fire service? Get real, how often do you speed going down the interstate? I go seventy down the interstate, 5 above the speedlimit, and I get passed left and right. Usually, these people aren't young kids but middle aged adults. So, why don't you respect them and their families. This could happen to anyone and everybody makes mistakes at every age.
RIP brothers
Did you actually read any of my post? Tell me to get real son? No, I do not speed down the interstate. I set my cruise on the speed limit. I do not get in that big of a hurry to go anywhere. Speeders are of all ages. My remarks of the younger people being firefighters, cops or such are directed toward the thrill seeking pricks who get an adrenaline rush out of it..... First responders and volunteers who will run you over with their little lights flashing to get to the scene most of the time breaking the speed limits to do so....others who think they have to live with those damn walkie-talkies and scanners blasting everwhere they go annoying the hell out of everyone around them....those that go to a minor accident or fire when there are far more than enough personell already on the scene and just hang around for the thrill of being there. Need I go on?? I applaud the ones who are in this line of work for the right reasons. We need and depend on them as well as admire them. But for the ones who have such boring lives that they need a flashing light, radio, scanner or badge to have just to look like they're important to the rest of the world, we're not impressed. I hate this tragedy happened....but 75mph in a 50mph zone and in the rain.....come on now. I thought they were in the business of protecting lives and not endangering them?

“Bite me!”

Since: Oct 09

Marion

#19 Mar 22, 2010
smutt butt wrote:
I started driving a school bus when I was a "irresponsible" 16-1/2. I got a class A to drive a tractor-trailer when I turned a irresposible 18. Never hurt anyone until a senile old fossil decided to run a stop sign in front of me.
..and what is your dumbass gonna do in a few years when you're that senile old fossil?
Parental Guidance

Greenville, SC

#20 Mar 22, 2010
Look over me i'm just a whiny married to a ugly woman man.
Young Firefighter

High Point, NC

#21 Mar 22, 2010
Parental Guidance wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you actually read any of my post? Tell me to get real son? No, I do not speed down the interstate. I set my cruise on the speed limit. I do not get in that big of a hurry to go anywhere. Speeders are of all ages. My remarks of the younger people being firefighters, cops or such are directed toward the thrill seeking pricks who get an adrenaline rush out of it..... First responders and volunteers who will run you over with their little lights flashing to get to the scene most of the time breaking the speed limits to do so....others who think they have to live with those damn walkie-talkies and scanners blasting everwhere they go annoying the hell out of everyone around them....those that go to a minor accident or fire when there are far more than enough personell already on the scene and just hang around for the thrill of being there. Need I go on?? I applaud the ones who are in this line of work for the right reasons. We need and depend on them as well as admire them. But for the ones who have such boring lives that they need a flashing light, radio, scanner or badge to have just to look like they're important to the rest of the world, we're not impressed. I hate this tragedy happened....but 75mph in a 50mph zone and in the rain.....come on now. I thought they were in the business of protecting lives and not endangering them?
Yes, I did actually read your first post. I do admit that there are way to many thrill seeking young firefighters out there that just do it for the title. The problem with that is that departments are suffering when it comes to the numbers of volunteers outthere and when it comes to the budget. Departments wouldn't have a problem if we had a wide pool to pull from for volunteers but unfornately we are in desperate need of more help. We do not get proper funding to adequately do our job. NFPA standards say that we should have at least 4 on a truck at all times. But, this is just a standard not a code. In some areas those lights and radios are needed because many department rely on only volunteers. Many carry those things so that people believe we are actually firefighters. No matter what call we go on we are always at risk. I believe it was last year firefighters were shot in st louis trying to put out a car fire. But, if you get a call and pull up to a house for a medical call wearing no identification you never know what may happen. We as firefighters are always at risk when it comes to safety as well as potential lawsuits. My department is a combination department where there is only one paid firefighter at the station. Think of it this way, your house catches on fire and you have 7 trucks arrive, but there are only 7 firefighters. That isn't even enought to do a proper attack; should have three on a line, need another crew for back up line, need a four person crew for Rapid Intervention, and another crew to do ventilation, not including the safety officer, and the rest of incident command. I do agree that they made a mistake but please don't turn this comment page into a place of arguments. All I know is that firefighters all over the country have lost two brothers, doesn't matter their age, doesn't matter their intentions, they are still brothers.

I am not trying to get in an argument. I am just trying to educate those that aren't firefighters. We are human and we all make mistakes. Yes, they were speeding, but it doesn't mean they were bad firefighters. They were trying to finish up their proper certifications. Please pray for their families and their family in the fire service.

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