Judeo-Christian values versus Liberalism

Judeo-Christian values versus Liberalism

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“Politics or Religion”

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#1 Oct 29, 2008
This election comes down to one thing Judeo-Christian values versus Liberalism

Many people have stopped looking to external sources of moral standards in order to decide what is right and wrong. Instead of being guided by God and the Bible people have started looking elsewhere for moral and social guidelines. Personal feelings have replaced standards, and feelings are the major characteristic of liberal positions.

For liberals, the worth of the human fetus is determined by the mother's feelings. If she feels the human life she is carrying is worth nothing, it is worth nothing. If she feels it is infinitely precious, it is infinitely precious.

Liberals support redefining the basic institution of society (marriage and the family) because of feelings of sympathy for homosexuals.

The liberal preoccupation with whether America is loved or hated is also entirely feelings-based. The Left wants to be loved; the Christian wants to do what is right.

The animals-and-humans-are-equival ent movement is based entirely on feelings.

Liberals preach "War is not the answer" but almost every great evil has been solved by war from slavery in America to the Holocaust in Europe.

Reliance on feelings in determining your political and social positions is the major reason young people tend to have liberal/left positions. It is also one reason women, especially single women, are more liberal than men. It is women's nature to rely on emotions when making decisions.

Almost everything is affected by liberal feelings. For example, liberal opposition to calling a Christmas party by its rightful name is based on liberals' concern that non-Christians will feel bad.

The entire basis for moral relativism, a foundation of leftist ideology, is built on the notion of feelings deciding right and wrong. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

The basis for Marxism, Communism, and Fascism are all based on feelings and with the drop in Judeo-Christian values in this country we are headed toward those forms of government. This election will serve as an indicator as to how far down that path we have gone.
miracles

Banner Elk, NC

#2 Oct 29, 2008
Well said... And let me say we will have CHRISTMAS at my house every year. We willnot say happy holidays or sing holiday songs or have a holiday tree. There is no such thing. If you are against Christmas then just don't celebrate it and go to work that day. That is fine with me but you will not take Christ out of my Christmas.

My door is open to anyone that still wants to celebrate Christmas. When the time comes (as it will) when it is seen no more you will still find Christmas at my home.

“God & Allah are imaginary”

Since: Oct 08

Clearwater, Fl

#3 Oct 29, 2008
FireFox2960 wrote:
This election comes down to one thing Judeo-Christian values versus Liberalism
Many people have stopped looking to external sources of moral standards in order to decide what is right and wrong. Instead of being guided by God and the Bible people have started looking elsewhere for moral and social guidelines. Personal feelings have replaced standards, and feelings are the major characteristic of liberal positions.
For liberals, the worth of the human fetus is determined by the mother's feelings. If she feels the human life she is carrying is worth nothing, it is worth nothing. If she feels it is infinitely precious, it is infinitely precious.
Liberals support redefining the basic institution of society (marriage and the family) because of feelings of sympathy for homosexuals.
The liberal preoccupation with whether America is loved or hated is also entirely feelings-based. The Left wants to be loved; the Christian wants to do what is right.
The animals-and-humans-are-equival ent movement is based entirely on feelings.
Liberals preach "War is not the answer" but almost every great evil has been solved by war from slavery in America to the Holocaust in Europe.
Reliance on feelings in determining your political and social positions is the major reason young people tend to have liberal/left positions. It is also one reason women, especially single women, are more liberal than men. It is women's nature to rely on emotions when making decisions.
Almost everything is affected by liberal feelings. For example, liberal opposition to calling a Christmas party by its rightful name is based on liberals' concern that non-Christians will feel bad.
The entire basis for moral relativism, a foundation of leftist ideology, is built on the notion of feelings deciding right and wrong. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
The basis for Marxism, Communism, and Fascism are all based on feelings and with the drop in Judeo-Christian values in this country we are headed toward those forms of government. This election will serve as an indicator as to how far down that path we have gone.
Hitler was a "christian". In your opinion, how were his values?
mad

Swannanoa, NC

#4 Oct 29, 2008
JackieB1957 wrote:
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Hitler was a "christian". In your opinion, how were his values?
Double d wrong---There are a lot of people that SAY they are Christians but far from it. bama is one you can add to the list and I would put bush in the bag with him by their actions alone. I'm not suppose to judge but I will say by they way they talk and their actions do not support them being a Christian. Christian is to be Christ like,although NO ONE can live a perfect life as Christ did, a Christian is to strive to live that way as best as possible.
IF you break mans laws(if they don't go against GODS laws) on purpose you sin, which bush has and bama and cain will do if elected. bush swore an oath to protect and enforce the laws of the US, he didn't and the other canidates won't either on the illegal issuses. Letting ones country be invaded when as the most powerful leader in the world is a disgrace.
PLEASE study the meaning of being a Christian rather than believeing someone is a Christian just because they say they are.
Racism,socialism,dictatorship and promising things that you can't deliver are sins. Neither canidate can deliver the tax cuts they promised and do the things they say they are going to do.
Needing Peace

Simpsonville, SC

#5 Oct 29, 2008
mad wrote:
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Double d wrong---There are a lot of people that SAY they are Christians but far from it. bama is one you can add to the list and I would put bush in the bag with him by their actions alone. I'm not suppose to judge but I will say by they way they talk and their actions do not support them being a Christian. Christian is to be Christ like,although NO ONE can live a perfect life as Christ did, a Christian is to strive to live that way as best as possible.
IF you break mans laws(if they don't go against GODS laws) on purpose you sin, which bush has and bama and cain will do if elected. bush swore an oath to protect and enforce the laws of the US, he didn't and the other canidates won't either on the illegal issuses. Letting ones country be invaded when as the most powerful leader in the world is a disgrace.
PLEASE study the meaning of being a Christian rather than believeing someone is a Christian just because they say they are.
Racism,socialism,dictatorship and promising things that you can't deliver are sins. Neither canidate can deliver the tax cuts they promised and do the things they say they are going to do.
LOTS of people claim to be something (in this case, Christian) to get people to go along with them, while their core beliefs and teachings steer them in their TRUE direction. Or they simply don't understand themselves. Hitler was obviously not a Christian in the true sense of the word because his actions went against EVERYTHING Christ proclaimed. The Hitler/christian comment is an extremist talking point designed to make people defend the ridiculous.

As for the Hitler/Obama thing, I don't think Obama is a Hitler. At all.

Hitler took power through manipulation, didn't he?

He was a spectacular speaker.. his words had a great deal of power to the audience he was addressing. He inspired a great deal of enthusiasm for "higher ideals" in his followers, although his actual intent (and eventual actions) differed VASTLY from the "christian" man he portrayed himself to be. I truly doubt the vast majority of those who were influenced by his eloquent and impassioned words would have gone along with him if they had been able to see the real man behind the message.

Hitler stirred his followers to go along with him under the promise of needed change that only he could bring. As a brief summary of his own policies, Hitler said, "Alles muss anders sein." (Translated, "Everything must become different.")

Hitler had a particularly strong appeal to the younger generation, the "Hitler Youth." He urged them to go along with his "'revolutionary creative will’ which had ‘no fixed aim, no permanency, only eternal change’" After the war was over, when those young followers were interviewed, almost all of them could remember being a part of the movement and the excitement of listening to him, but few could remember specific content except Hitler's call for change. Many of them claimed a sense of self-respect because they followed him.

My opinion is that Hitler came along at a time when people craved to believe in something, and his listeners were willing to believe in anything that sounded good because they WANTED to.. so they only heard the good in his words. Hitler gave them a new hope.

It's funny to me that extreme leftist liberals have equated Bush to Hitler for 8 years now. It seems to give them a feeling of some kind of victim-like righteousness. I actually think it's comical to compare Bush to Hitler. Hitler was 1,000,000 times the politician Bush ever thought about being!! Hitler's following was unbelievable compared to anything we have seen poor ole' George experience anywhere, maybe in all 8 years added together!

When I see people compare Obama to Hitler, I get a little sad.
The Truth

AOL

#6 Oct 29, 2008
Obama has murdered no one.
However, I found it very interesting to insert the word, "Obama", in place of the word, "Hitler", in your post. It flows equally well.
Needing Peace

Simpsonville, SC

#7 Oct 29, 2008
If you'll read, I said, "As for the Hitler/Obama thing, I don't think Obama is a Hitler. At all."

And I don't. AT all.

I DO, however, think that people can be easily lead by manipulative, charismatic speakers... whether in religion, politics or whatever. I mean, look at cults... do they EVER following the boring speaker that might make a lot of sense? No.

“God & Allah are imaginary”

Since: Oct 08

Clearwater, Fl

#8 Oct 29, 2008
mad wrote:
<quoted text>
Double d wrong---There are a lot of people that SAY they are Christians but far from it. bama is one you can add to the list and I would put bush in the bag with him by their actions alone. I'm not suppose to judge but I will say by they way they talk and their actions do not support them being a Christian. Christian is to be Christ like,although NO ONE can live a perfect life as Christ did, a Christian is to strive to live that way as best as possible.
IF you break mans laws(if they don't go against GODS laws) on purpose you sin, which bush has and bama and cain will do if elected. bush swore an oath to protect and enforce the laws of the US, he didn't and the other canidates won't either on the illegal issuses. Letting ones country be invaded when as the most powerful leader in the world is a disgrace.
PLEASE study the meaning of being a Christian rather than believeing someone is a Christian just because they say they are.
Racism,socialism,dictatorship and promising things that you can't deliver are sins. Neither canidate can deliver the tax cuts they promised and do the things they say they are going to do.
You're the typical kool-aid drinker...
miracles

Banner Elk, NC

#9 Oct 29, 2008
The Truth wrote:
Obama has murdered no one.
However, I found it very interesting to insert the word, "Obama", in place of the word, "Hitler", in your post. It flows equally well.
That we know of yet, there is no telling what he will do in the White House
GV4L

Simpsonville, SC

#10 Oct 29, 2008
FireFox2960 wrote:
This election comes down to one thing Judeo-Christian values versus Liberalism
Many people have stopped looking to external sources of moral standards in order to decide what is right and wrong. Instead of being guided by God and the Bible people have started looking elsewhere for moral and social guidelines. Personal feelings have replaced standards, and feelings are the major characteristic of liberal positions.
For liberals, the worth of the human fetus is determined by the mother's feelings. If she feels the human life she is carrying is worth nothing, it is worth nothing. If she feels it is infinitely precious, it is infinitely precious.
Liberals support redefining the basic institution of society (marriage and the family) because of feelings of sympathy for homosexuals.
The liberal preoccupation with whether America is loved or hated is also entirely feelings-based. The Left wants to be loved; the Christian wants to do what is right.
The animals-and-humans-are-equival ent movement is based entirely on feelings.
Liberals preach "War is not the answer" but almost every great evil has been solved by war from slavery in America to the Holocaust in Europe.
Reliance on feelings in determining your political and social positions is the major reason young people tend to have liberal/left positions. It is also one reason women, especially single women, are more liberal than men. It is women's nature to rely on emotions when making decisions.
Almost everything is affected by liberal feelings. For example, liberal opposition to calling a Christmas party by its rightful name is based on liberals' concern that non-Christians will feel bad.
The entire basis for moral relativism, a foundation of leftist ideology, is built on the notion of feelings deciding right and wrong. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
The basis for Marxism, Communism, and Fascism are all based on feelings and with the drop in Judeo-Christian values in this country we are headed toward those forms of government. This election will serve as an indicator as to how far down that path we have gone.
You do this every single time you go on one of your philosophical ramblings. You always hone in on one keyword that is indicative to your philosophy, and then swap the word to try and make it fit with a different philosophy. Case in point--- On this post you substituted the word “Feelings” for the word “Logic”.

“God & Allah are imaginary”

Since: Oct 08

Clearwater, Fl

#11 Oct 29, 2008
mad wrote:
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Double d wrong---
"Hitler’s involvement with the Church:
a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.
b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school.(On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)
c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.
d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.” His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy:“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church. Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.
f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt:“The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.” Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party
Hitler and the Popeg) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler’s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition.
Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send “warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.”(If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell)
h) Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings:“The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.”–Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda “Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.”-Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism"

“Politics or Religion”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#12 Oct 29, 2008
GV4L wrote:
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You do this every single time you go on one of your philosophical ramblings. You always hone in on one keyword that is indicative to your philosophy, and then swap the word to try and make it fit with a different philosophy. Case in point--- On this post you substituted the word “Feelings” for the word “Logic”.
There's nothing logical about liberals. Everything they say defies all logic and reason.
GV4L

Simpsonville, SC

#13 Oct 29, 2008
FireFox2960 wrote:
<quoted text>
There's nothing logical about liberals. Everything they say defies all logic and reason.
Liberals tend to think much more than conservatives before acting, whereas conservatives tend to be much more habitual and conforming to established traditions. This has been proven in scientific studies.
FireFox

Williamston, SC

#14 Oct 29, 2008
Exactly!!! Liberals explore their feelings and then try to put themselves in the other person’s shoes and think how they would feel. They over-think the situation and make the wrong choice.

A Christian looks to established traditions rooted in biblical teachings and makes the right choice. It’s not about feelings its about right and wrong.

Explain the liberal logic behind supporting Abortion, the murder of innocent life?
Stanley1

Auburn, AL

#15 Oct 29, 2008
The Truth wrote:
Obama has murdered no one.
However, I found it very interesting to insert the word, "Obama", in place of the word, "Hitler", in your post. It flows equally well.
If you are keping up with internet news..You will read articles where the new Hitler has his little Nazi puppets destroying McCain signs and even attacking people. That hase never happened in our history...at least the Attacks.
GV4L

Simpsonville, SC

#16 Oct 29, 2008
FireFox wrote:
Exactly!!! Liberals explore their feelings and then try to put themselves in the other person’s shoes and think how they would feel. They over-think the situation and make the wrong choice.
A Christian looks to established traditions rooted in biblical teachings and makes the right choice. It’s not about feelings its about right and wrong.
Explain the liberal logic behind supporting Abortion, the murder of innocent life?
Studies show that the more a person is educated, the more likely they are to vote democrat. Conservatives have always been less logical than liberals, thus the conservative's constant attack on science. Conservatives tend to be strictly religious... many believe Earth is less than 10,000 years old! Conservatives have two loyalties: one to money, the other to the Bible.
Some Guy

Simpsonville, SC

#17 Oct 29, 2008
GV4L wrote:
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Studies show that the more a person is educated, the more likely they are to vote democrat. Conservatives have always been less logical than liberals, thus the conservative's constant attack on science. Conservatives tend to be strictly religious... many believe Earth is less than 10,000 years old! Conservatives have two loyalties: one to money, the other to the Bible.
What studies are you refering to? I have read about this myself and have found that the education level is about equal on both sides of the fence.

“Politics or Religion”

Since: Aug 08

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#18 Oct 29, 2008
GV4L wrote:
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Studies show that the more a person is educated, the more likely they are to vote democrat. Conservatives have always been less logical than liberals, thus the conservative's constant attack on science. Conservatives tend to be strictly religious... many believe Earth is less than 10,000 years old! Conservatives have two loyalties: one to money, the other to the Bible.
I can’t argue with that (lol). Of course that’s YOUR definition of being educated. Seeing as the majority of college professors are liberal democrats. That’s what is being taught in school, liberalism.(AKA brainwashing) To liberals being more educated means you believe in liberalism, if you believe in intelligent design or the existence of God then your automatically considered uneducated.

These Kids are taught typical liberal values, God doesn’t exist, there are no absolute truths and you should trust your feelings to tell you what’s right or wrong.

Conservative's don’t attack real science. We attack the theory of evolution, and anyone who says something can come from nothing without intelligent design. But that’s another argument that I’ve already proven on another blog.
Communism

Fayetteville, NC

#19 Oct 29, 2008
Some Guy wrote:
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What studies are you refering to? I have read about this myself and have found that the education level is about equal on both sides of the fence.
Interestingly enough, the studies actually show that the more Communist you are, the more Democratic you lean....Dems are all about taking from the rich and giving to the poor!! Look at Robinhood Obama!
The Truth

AOL

#20 Oct 29, 2008
Jackie,
A person who states they are a Christian and lives a life completely opposite of a Christ-like life is not a Christian at all.
It is similar to someone who posts a picture by their name of who they wish they were and not who they truly are.
Do not be ashamed of what you look like, Jackie. I am sure it is not as bad as you think.

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