#132 Sep 24, 2012
Gen. 1 speaks of God making everything "after its own kind." To me that is evolution. That does not deny creation. God created ppl in his "own" image. In other words; God created all but he used the evolution process as a continuation in all that he did create, except humankind. To me its the same reason we can grow food from a seed. Because its "after its own kind."
#133 Sep 24, 2012
You're like the petulant little kid forced to sit at the kiddie table pouting because all the adults are sitting at the big table discussing important matters. So every once in a while, you sneak over and try to say something important, but it comes out so hilarious that all the adults have to refrain from laughing so as not to harm your delicate psyche.
If I thought there were any hope of you comprehending the difference between evolution and maturation, I'd give you a little lesson on the difference between the two. But from observing your posts, it's obvious you lack the competence or the open-mindedness to take the time to educate yourself.
So, hows about going back in your bedroom, cut off all the lights, turn on your glow-in-the-dark pentogram, call up your Emo buddies, and write your little poems about how your daddies and mommies ruined your lives because they haven't taken the time to truly understand you. And maybe, just maybe, life will one day make sense to you and you'll get to sit at the adult table. Dare to dream 'ol dark one.
#134 Sep 25, 2012
You could go to one of your atheist websites and gather up some of the supposed contradictions in the Bible. I can easily clear up the supposed "contradictions" for you and expose the fact that those atheist websites promote lies.
(Ive done this before, BTW)
I can clear up the contrived and false contradictions that you will find posted on those atheist websites. A little education for you, is all that is required.
Then you would look stupid for paying attention to the atheist websites to start with.
Or you could just copy and paste a million seeming "contradictions and errors" to give the appearance of a vast number. Every one of them can easily be cleared up and refuted. But it takes a long time. That is another favorite trick of the atheist websites.
(Ive been through that too)
So, back to science. Here is another link for smart people to examine (will you be one of them?)
Rapid tomcod evolution
There you go. If you dont know what you are taking about, and atheist websites feed you a constant stream of BS, then education is the solution so that ye remain not ignorant.
(PS, I really am trying to help you, but your not making it easy)
#135 Sep 25, 2012
you said: "They have changed over the course of time." and that is what evolution means. Everything is evolving moment by moment. As for the concept that man evolved from the monkey, most people only apply the term 'evolution' to this concept, never considering that everything in existence should be included under this concept. Have I not evolved from a fetus to a very old human? No cell in our body stays the same during a lifetime. That's evolution!
Since: May 12
#136 Sep 26, 2012
respect is earned never given. everyone receives the bare minimum to start, only some disrespect me by mentioning the book of fantasy and dragging their favorite character in to everything. i dont want to hear about their beliefs because they are only beliefs. i say nothing of my till some delusional opens their cock hole.
Since: May 12
#137 Sep 26, 2012
dont post like the words are true. you are only repeating what your head pedophile uses to brainwash you with. you should never speak as if it were true unless they are facts to support it or its at least plausible unlike most stuff in the book of fantasy.
Since: May 12
#138 Sep 26, 2012
but yet your the delusional one. your the ignorant fuck that thinks nothing has evolved? i realize you probably feel stupid since you have to realize how foolish you look with your evo posts, and the fact i (and many others) have pointed this out probably embarrasses you. a difference between us is you spew what you think, i speak what is known. have you ever conducted a c&s? im betting not.
you shouldn't speak of things you know nothing about. i guess tadpoles dont evolve into a frog in your fantasy world. how about cancer cells? what flips the switch? stick with the "the byble said so" horse shit and ill stick to "science has proven" and "logic"
Since: May 12
#139 Sep 26, 2012
you talk alot of shit but as usual do nothing. are the quotes true? just say yes. how many versions are their of your book of fantasy? why would/should anyone believe in a book with some many different versions and editing? do you ever think at all? what was the first religion? since it wasn't your foolish belief what makes you think yours is right?
you ignorant x-ains always wanna ignore questions that you know are damning and wanna stick with fantasy and turn everything around to "the beginning". how gives a shit, i dont live in the beginning i live here in the 2nd millennium where we know things. you fuckers dont believe in evo because you haven't experienced it yet. stay in the dark if you want but shut the fuck up because everyone isn't as stupid as you. we know the sun dosent "come up" it only appears that way to the gullible. bet you love a magic show.
#140 Sep 26, 2012
Honestly, your postings seem to be incoherent ramblings laced with profanity. It makes one wonder if you were intoxicated at the time that you posted.
Somewhere in that garbled up mess you posted were the words "in the beginning" and there was another reference to the earliest religion. Is that where you were going with that (who can tell?)
We can have a chat about the earliest monotheism and the world wide mother culture if you like.
Tell me, do you know what the Vedas are?
#141 Sep 26, 2012
Mommy must have forgot to make you your favorite mac and cheese before she dropped you off at high school, didn't she? Maybe the science teacher you so covet will make you feel better with all that "this is what we think happened but can't definitively prove it so we have to call them theories which we will someday term a law because it sounds better even though we still can't call them facts" bull crap. And if all goes well, maybe you'll be so enamored by his lecture that you'll leave yourself a stain you can do a little "c&s" on.
If nothing else, you do make me laugh - using all that vulgarity and then expecting anyone to take you seriously. Looking in the mirror should prove to you evolution, taking your understanding of the term, is false.
#142 Sep 26, 2012
FACTS, you say? Ha Ha Ha Ha. ah, You certainly are an antiChrist, no doubt! Did you know your words are harmfully effecting others. Is this the right manner for you to exist? You would do much good as a Ghandi if you would attempt.
#143 Sep 26, 2012
You have any fantasies, doll? I bet you do!
#144 Sep 26, 2012
What an ANGRY little squirt you are; and your grasp of language is phenomenal. This is supposed to be a "Discussion", not a free for all outright battle. Try to use a bit of control. Okay? That's a good little boy! When you use your profanity, you no doubt would be kicked out of a debating club or a discussion panel. Yes you as all the rest of humanity are living in the second millenium but you have to realize that many millennia occurred before the current one. DoDo.
#145 Sep 26, 2012
Actually, in order for any theory to be scientific, it must meet certain criteria.
A...It must be observable.
B...It must be falsifiable (repeatable).
Since there were zero scientific experiments towards solving the truth of evolution, in continuous running, since the dawn of time...evolution theory is not really a scientific theory.
It has not been scientifically observed, nor repeated.
Not by the scientific definition of "scientific", at least. Therefore, it is just pseudo-science.
What evolution pushers do, is to basically try to make the appearance of actual scientific evidence, to take the place of actual evidence.
Like in the link above about the Tomcod fish, and the false evidence of anti-biotic resistant bacteria. Its all sleight of hand.
In both instances, the changes to the animals were all within the same species, the mechanisms for suppressing (or loosing) genetic information was likewise already in their genomes to begin with...and there was a net loss of or simple suppression of genetic information.
These did not come about through mutations adding genetic information. No new information was added.
Speciation (Evolution) cannot take place without new genetic information being added to the genome. One cannot subtract away genetic information to achieve speciation.
This is not taught to kids in schools. They are just brainwashed to accept the standard and approved pre-supposition that evolution is correct. They are then fed a lot of false information and false evidence, given a litle unhealthy ego-boost to go along with it, and sent out the door with the false idea that they have been educated.
And when 21st century does catch up with the 19th century evolutionary assumptions, or the 20th century "evidence" to debunk it, it is all so quietly ignored. Such as the case with the infamous "Lucy"...
Icon of Evolution “Lucy” Bites the Dust | Uncommon Descent
I wonder how many evolutionist still think that Lucy is actual evidence of evolution? They should research the issue of evolution for themselves. After all, if they are wrong about the existence of God and evolution, it could have eternal consequences.
But its hard to get people to come back to reality after having been fed lies, and then told they are superior for believing them.
This is exactly what Adolf Hitler did to the German people, BTW. He told them a bunch of lies and then told them they were superior for believing them. He had them convinced that they were the master race for supporting his madness.
Incredible as it is, the same tactics are still at work today in our schools. The old "appeal to authority" debating trick (most scientist agree...) followed by the pumping up of the egos, and then the administration of the lie.
Its sad to see how many people cling to the long debunked myth of evolution, and are quite certain that it is correct. They cannot defend it in a scientific debate when presented with actual science. Never the less, their clinging to evolution never wavers.
That along should be a red flag for one and all to see. But, there are none so blind as those who will not see.
#146 Sep 27, 2012
I have witnessed the science of evolution attacked, witnessed the homosexual community viciously attacked, witnessed birth options attacked, fallen soldiers attacked, and so much more. However, Christians are the ones being attacked!? Please explain the story of Lot and his Daughters to myself and everyone else. No, better than explain it please defend it.
30 Afterward Lot left Zoar because he was afraid of the people there, and he went to live in a cave in the mountains with his two daughters. 31 One day the older daughter said to her sister,“There are no men left anywhere in this entire area, so we can’t get married like everyone else. And our father will soon be too old to have children. 32 Come, let’s get him drunk with wine, and then we will have sex with him. That way we will preserve our family line through our father.”
33 So that night they got him drunk with wine, and the older daughter went in and had intercourse with her father. He was unaware of her lying down or getting up again.
34 The next morning the older daughter said to her younger sister,“I had sex with our father last night. Let’s get him drunk with wine again tonight, and you go in and have sex with him. That way we will preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So that night they got him drunk with wine again, and the younger daughter went in and had intercourse with him. As before, he was unaware of her lying down or getting up again.
36 As a result, both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their own father. 37 When the older daughter gave birth to a son, she named him Moab.[b] He became the ancestor of the nation now known as the Moabites. 38 When the younger daughter gave birth to a son, she named him Ben-ammi.[c] He became the ancestor of the nation now known as the Ammonites.
I guess that this is the choice of an alternative lifestyle & goes along with the Creationism argument. It does not matter who you create with, as long as it is creation. However, Christians are the first to scream that homosexuality is a disgusting lifestyle. Well, I am a heterosexual and do not claim to understand the homosexual lifestyle. I know that homosexuals cannot explain it either as they were born that way, but incest is much worse in my opinion. Please defend the incest, if you can.
#147 Sep 28, 2012
I dont attempt to filter the Bible. It is what it is, and it says what it says. That goes for the story of Lot as well. People make mistakes.
How does that apply to a discussion about evolution?
Care to discuss the science related to the question of evolution?
How about the infamous fruit fly experiments? They are touted in schools as good examples of evolution being true.
No doubt, kids in schools are lied to and told how the fruit fly experiments are good proof of evolution. Often cited are the wild mutations that have came from these so-called "scientific" experiments. Fruit flies with 4 wings are often cited as evidence.
I bet they dont tell the whole truth about them, such as that radiation and radioactive isotopes were injected into the genes at specific (connective) locations, to produce these artificial mutations?
Apologetics Press - Mutant Fruit Flies Bug Evolution
The case of these mutations (such as 4 winged fruit flies) is just more sleight of hand, not real scientific evidence of evolution.
Its really just a matter of birth defects induced by radiation poisoning. And then, passed off as evidence of evolution.
What do actual scientist say of the fruit fly experiments, and the radiation induced mutations?
Darwin's Theory - Fruit Flies and Morphology - YouTube
► 2:59► 2:59
And here is yet another one which goes a little more in depth...
Darwinism Vs. Fruit Flies - Jonathan Wells - Video
► 8:16► 8:16
So, this just goes on the show that the 19th century assumptions of evolution theory are easily debunked by 21st century science.
Except that the scientific community has spent the last 150 years trying to make the round holes of evolution mesh with the square pegs of actual science. Too much is on the line now. If scientist were to admit that there is zero evidence for evolution, then, what does that leave?
What would happen to the government funding for the education system? What of the prestigious titles and pay and benefits for all of these people who now push evolution?
What of the atheist who have so much power and influence in the government?
What about the money?
No, the scientific community has waaay too much pride and $$$ invested to tell the truth about evolution. So, deceptive sleight of hand evidence like the fruit flies are force fed to the kids in schools.
And then the kids are told that they are somehow superior to the superstitious Christians who still believe in Creation.
The whole thing would be comical, except that it can have eternal consequences.
Since you seem to have access to a Bible...tell me. Who is the Father of Lies?
#148 Sep 28, 2012
jesus effin christ you all are stupid.
And what's worse, you're proud of it.
jesus effin christ
#149 Sep 28, 2012
Nobody knows who is the Father of Lies & it does not matter how much Biblical reference that you post on here. Faith and Fact are nowhere near the same thing & neither side can prove any facts, so it all comes down to faith. My point is that the Bible sure does reference creationism....albeit some incest in there as well. How does that make it O.K. though? Is Incest accepted because the Bible says so? Slavery? Multiple Wives? Then how does the Homosexual community get the short end of the stick & get repeatedly attacked by the Christian society? I am not homosexual, and hope that my children were not born Homosexual but I just don't like how some Christians pull certain scripture from the Bible to defend & then stub up when you bring something like Lot and his Daughters up. The question itself has no answer whatsoever......no matter how it's worded....no matter how many opinions or beliefs are represented. Which is correct? Nobody, and I mean nobody knows so let it rest. Thank you for acknowledging the story of Lot and his Daughters, but you left it at that: acknowledged and move on due to uncomfort in discussing. Nobody wins.
#150 Oct 2, 2012
I agree with your post 100%! I love how you brought something very uncomfortable for Christians out & the thread stopped. Typical though. You are right, nobody knows so keep your faith as faith & try not to confuse with facts.
#151 Oct 2, 2012
The Bible does not condone incest. It merely relates the historical events in Lots life. And there is a lesson to be learned from the story of Lot and his daughters, and that is this...if they had trusted God to spare them from the disaster that befell Sodom, then they would not have lost their heads and done a sin.
The father of lies is Satan, BTW.
Now, is there something scientific you would like to discuss? Something about evolution, perhaps?
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