Medical marijuana advocates speak out...

Medical marijuana advocates speak out on Prop. 19

There are 88 comments on the San Bernardino County Sun story from Oct 24, 2010, titled Medical marijuana advocates speak out on Prop. 19. In it, San Bernardino County Sun reports that:

On a cloudy Friday morning, medical marijuana patients from all walks of life are pouring through the doors of the Inland Empire Patients Group in Bloomington.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at San Bernardino County Sun.

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SBGrapevine

Victorville, CA

#1 Oct 24, 2010
Is it time for the SB Cty Board of Supervisors to initiate an investigation of Supervisor Paul Biane??? For more local, state, county, and federal political news, please visit www.sbgrapevine.com
Bryan

Victorville, CA

#2 Oct 24, 2010
Not only can you grow your own medicine, but you will be able to get it for cheap too. This is the next step in our rights. I know half you guys need weed for your "illness" but your also "stoners" Its nothing to be ashamed of, I love smoking pot. It cuts a great deal of stress after a hard days work. So I vote Yes and you should too.
What

Temecula, CA

#3 Oct 24, 2010
Why not interview the parents who are against this!
ccl

Atascadero, CA

#4 Oct 24, 2010
Legalize not legal lies...The government has been lying about marijuana for too long now...how long are people going to be fooled??? Vote yes on prop 19 tell the feds to stop practising law and enforcment on marijuana people and go after the real criminals. Also to have a bail of 2 million dollars for a dispensary owner, like those recently raided in Santa Barbara CA is totally unjust...people get out for much less for murder...Also you will have to vote for democrats cause the right wing republicans will find a way around the law and continue to harrass and prosecute people...
Anti-prohibition ist

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Oct 25, 2010
A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#6 Oct 25, 2010
While bullets fly into El Paso and bodies pile up in the streets of Juarez, and thugs with gold-plated AK-47s and albino tiger pens are beheading federal officials and dissolving their torsos in vats of acid, here are some facts concerning the peaceful situation in Holland.--Please save a copy and use it as a reference when debating prohibitionists who claim the exact opposite concerning reality as presented here below:

Cannabis-coffee-shops are not only restricted to the Capital of Holland, Amsterdam. They can be found in more than 50 cities and towns across the country. At present, only the retail sale of five grams is tolerated, so production remains criminalized. The mayors of a majority of the cities with coffeeshops have long urged the national government to also decriminalize the supply side.

A poll taken earlier this year indicated that some 50% of the Dutch population thinks cannabis should be fully legalized while only 25% wanted a complete ban. Even though 62% of the voters said they had never taken cannabis. An earlier poll also indicated 80% opposing coffee shop closures.
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/02...

It is true that the number of coffee shops has fallen from its peak of around 2,500 throughout the country to around 700 now. The problems, if any, concern mostly marijuana-tourists and are largely confined to cities and small towns near the borders with Germany and Belgium. These problems, mostly involve traffic jams, and are the result of cannabis prohibition in neighboring countries. Public nuisance problems with the coffee shops are minimal when compared with bars, as is demonstrated by the rarity of calls for the police for problems at coffee shops.

While it is true that lifetime and past-month use rates did increase back in the seventies and eighties, the critics shamefully fail to report that there were comparable and larger increases in cannabis use in most, if not all, neighboring countries which continued complete prohibition.

According to the World Health Organization only 19.8 percent of the Dutch have used marijuana, less than half the U.S. figure.
In Holland 9.7% of young adults (aged 15 to 24) consume soft drugs once a month, comparable to the level in Italy (10.9%) and Germany (9.9%) and less than in the UK (15.8%) and Spain (16.4%). Few transcend to becoming problem drug users (0.44%), well below the average (0.52%) of the compared countries.

The WHO survey of 17 countries finds that the United States has the highest usage rates for nearly all illegal substances.

In the U.S. 42.4 percent admitted having used marijuana. The only other nation that came close was New Zealand, another bastion of get-tough policies, at 41.9 percent. No one else was even close. The results for cocaine use were similar, with the U.S. again leading the world by a large margin.

Even more striking is what the researchers found when they asked young adults when they had started using marijuana. Again, the U.S. led the world, with 20.2 percent trying marijuana by age 15. No other country was even close, and in Holland, just 7 percent used marijuana by 15 -- roughly one-third of the U.S. figure.
thttp://www.alternet.org/drugs /90295/

In 1998, the US Drug Czar General Barry McCaffrey claimed that the U.S. had less than half the murder rate of the Netherlands. That’s drugs, he explained. The Dutch Central Bureau for Statistics immediately issued a special press release explaining that the actual Dutch murder rate is 1.8 per 100,000 people, or less than one-quarter the U.S. murder rate.

Here’s a very recent article by a psychiatrist from Amsterdam, exposing Drug Czar misinformation
http://tinyurl.com/247a8mp

Since: Sep 10

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#7 Oct 25, 2010
Now let's look at a comparative analysis of the levels of cannabis use in two cities: Amsterdam and San Francisco, which was published in the American Journal of Public Health May 2004,

The San Francisco prevalence survey showed that 39.2% of the population had used cannabis. This is 3 times the prevalence found in the Amsterdam sample

Source: Craig Reinarman, Peter D.A. Cohen and Hendrien L. Kaal, The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy
http://www.mapinc.org/lib/limited.pdf

Moreover, 51% of people who had smoked cannabis in San Francisco reported that they were offered heroin, cocaine or amphetamine the last time they purchased cannabis. In contrast, only 15% of Amsterdam residents who had ingested marijuana reported the same conditions. Prohibition is the ‘Gateway Policy’ that forces cannabis seekers to buy from criminals who gladly expose them to harder drugs.

The indicators of death, disease and corruption are even much better in the Netherlands than in Sweden for instance, a country praised by UNODC for its so called successful drug policy.

Here's Antonio Maria Costa doing his level best to avoid discussing the success of Dutch drug policy:
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The Netherlands also provides heroin on prescription under tight regulation to about 1500 long-term heroin addicts for whom methadone maintenance treatment has failed.
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/free-heroin...

The Dutch justice ministry announced, last year, the closure of eight prisons and cut 1,200 jobs in the prison system. A decline in crime has left many cells empty. There's simply not enough criminals
http://www.nrc.nl/international/article224682...

For further information, kindly check out this very informative FAQ provided by Radio Netherlands: http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/faq-soft-dr...
or go to this page: http://www.rnw.nl/english/dossier/Soft-drugs
simpleton

Fishtail, MT

#8 Oct 25, 2010
The main thing we get out of prop 19 is a great big chance to show how backwards, destructive and even ILLEGAL our current prohibition laws are.

So they are threatening to enforce the Controlled Substances Act: I say let's help them out. First, they should start by reading their own laws--since it clearly states that any substance currently being used for medical purposes cannot simultaneously be a "schedule I narcotic." Cannabis prohibition has to go away regardless of whether prop 19 passes, unless the feds are prepared to defend the following position in court: science is yet another false religion being used as an excuse for potheads to 'get high'
Sancho

Corona, CA

#9 Oct 25, 2010
Collectives are motivated financially to oppose Prop 19, it is very obvious.
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Dhaka, Bangladesh

#10 Oct 25, 2010
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California Sun

Long Beach, CA

#11 Oct 25, 2010
Marijuana is practically legal already. Anyone with a $150 can get a prescription with a good story about pain. If Prop 19 fails marijuana use will continue. Prohibition will fail eventually. It's just a matter of time.
gmk

Covina, CA

#12 Oct 25, 2010
What wrote:
Why not interview the parents who are against this!
Why not interview the parents who are for this?
gmk

Covina, CA

#13 Oct 25, 2010
simpleton wrote:
The main thing we get out of prop 19 is a great big chance to show how backwards, destructive and even ILLEGAL our current prohibition laws are.
So they are threatening to enforce the Controlled Substances Act: I say let's help them out. First, they should start by reading their own laws--since it clearly states that any substance currently being used for medical purposes cannot simultaneously be a "schedule I narcotic." Cannabis prohibition has to go away regardless of whether prop 19 passes, unless the feds are prepared to defend the following position in court: science is yet another false religion being used as an excuse for potheads to 'get high'
Also, the federal govt. owns a PATENT ON MEDICAL CANNABIS! Didn't they do a great job inventing it? They are lying and they know it too! http://preview.tinyurl.com/cannabis-patent
Believe

Santa Monica, CA

#14 Oct 25, 2010
Appears from the photo these people are really in need of medical illegal dope, what is this a joke.
Life Long Redlander

Upland, CA

#15 Oct 25, 2010
Believe wrote:
Appears from the photo these people are really in need of medical illegal dope, what is this a joke.
It's a choice if you like to burn holes in your stomach with acetaminophen we dont
WE ARE ADULTS WE PAY OUR TAXES AND WE HAVE RIGHTS

We use something that has been SAFE for 100's of years.

YES ON 19
Tom Foolery

United States

#16 Oct 25, 2010
Anyone who read the New York Times story about Tribune Media, which owns the LA Times, can no longer trust the information the LA Times puts out, i.e. the losing poll numbers. Add to that fact that the USC football team is on probation for cheating and you have two very discredited institutions trying to sway an electorate for their own benefit. These poll numbers are completely opposite those done by NORML and other more credible organizations.
Life Long Redlander

Upland, CA

#17 Oct 25, 2010
Sancho wrote:
Collectives are motivated financially to oppose Prop 19, it is very obvious.
Ya it sucks because in 1996 when we voted for legal medical MJ.
AIDS and cancer suffers were still being arrested and raided so to think if prop 19 passes it's going to Cheech and Chong your just FALSE.
Eric Holden already said hell no to prop 19. So it's not gonna happen but at least we get a chance to make a statement to the world!

VOTE YES ON 19
ainnothang

San Bernardino, CA

#18 Oct 25, 2010
You weak minded dope smokers. Pansies that cant deal with every day life. If you smoke dope you are a LOSER.
Life Long Redlander

Upland, CA

#19 Oct 25, 2010
ainnothang wrote:
You weak minded dope smokers. Pansies that cant deal with every day life. If you smoke dope you are a LOSER.
Weak minded, pansy and loser. Wow anything else you would like to add to you level of intelligence?
BadSamIYam

Montgomery, AL

#20 Oct 25, 2010
All those in fear of Prop 19 must have had to sit thru "Reefer Madness" and really believed all those horror stories. Please read, not believe propaganda dished out by our government and media.

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