$4 gas = 3-day weekend at home

$4 gas = 3-day weekend at home

There are 63 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 1, 2008, titled $4 gas = 3-day weekend at home. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

On long Fourth of July weekends, Donna Perkins usually finds herself camping by the Iron River in northern Wisconsin or driving to Blooming Prairie in southern Minnesota to see her folks.

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A Reagan Baby

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jul 1, 2008
Vote Betty! She supports Nancy Pelosi's plan for no oil exploration.$5 a gallon by thanksgiving.
highlandr1

Superior, WI

#2 Jul 1, 2008
It's not hard to figure it out. This country has been going downhill since Eisenhower and it's going to take years of co-operation between both political parties and everyone involved in law making to get us out of the hole we've dug into. Spend, spend, spend and never look to the future, always thinking the next group will fix what the previous group broke. Seal the borders, get rid of the illegals, get the people off welfare that don't belong on it, ignore the tree-huggers, man comes before animals or plants, lower the speed limit back to 55 and enforce it with heavy fines, force more economical mass-transit, stiffer fines and stronger legislation against polluters, put trustworthy people in charge of investigating government spending o all the waste comes to an end. No more pay-offs, under-the-table deals, lobbyists, tacking on wasteful spending just to get a good bill through. The list goes on and on and on. I feel sorry for the babies born today that will inherit the garbage pit we've created for them. That is, if there even is a world LEFT to hand them.
Pokey Reese

Mankato, MN

#3 Jul 2, 2008
higklandr1......have you noticed one common denomiator in your post? I'd say the American decline can be directly related to the rise of leftists in our government. The American experience you spoke of was never saddled with a gigantic government which seemingly attracts liberals who see the government as the end-all. They weren't burdened with the gigantic obstacles that the post-60s hippie left has placed on this country. We have been dumbed down, we have lost our competitive edge and we have been duped into believing that the things that seperated us from the rest of the pack are the things that are now holding us back. I hold the post 60s radicals that makeup most of our local/state/national government as well as "education" field directly responsible for our decline.
highlandr1

Superior, WI

#4 Jul 2, 2008
Pokey Reese wrote:
higklandr1......have you noticed one common denomiator in your post? I'd say the American decline can be directly related to the rise of leftists in our government. The American experience you spoke of was never saddled with a gigantic government which seemingly attracts liberals who see the government as the end-all. They weren't burdened with the gigantic obstacles that the post-60s hippie left has placed on this country. We have been dumbed down, we have lost our competitive edge and we have been duped into believing that the things that seperated us from the rest of the pack are the things that are now holding us back. I hold the post 60s radicals that makeup most of our local/state/national government as well as "education" field directly responsible for our decline.
First of all, you should know the meaning of the ter you use "In politics, "left-wing", "the political left", or "the Left" are terms that refer to politics that seek to reform or abolish existing social hierarchies and promote a more equal distribution of wealth and privilege. In general, the left advocates for a society where all people have an equal opportunity, which they often describe as a "level playing field". Toward this end, most people who consider themselves left-wing support labor unions.[1] The term "the Left" can encompass a number of ideologies, including Progressivism, Social liberalism, Social democracy, Left-libertarianism, Socialism, Syndicalism, Marxism, Communism, and mainstream Anarchism." I don't see the people in charge now, or in the past looking to "even" the playng field ... but just the opposite. IF they get heir way, there would be no "middle-class" at all. Just the poor and weak and the rich and the mighty. Sometimes I think we have just let ourselves believe that once we were the most powerful militarly, economically, greatest industrial power in the world (and we may have well been at one time) and unfortunately still believe that we are without maintaining the infra-structure, keeping a strong dollar in the world's economy and exporting more than we import by making things in this country that can compete in the marketplace without going into debt to do it. I don't think you can narrow it down to just one group of poeple since neither the Democrats or the Republicans have made matters much better, but have actually worsened things over the years.
grouchy

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Jul 2, 2008
Pokey Reese wrote:
higklandr1......have you noticed one common denomiator in your post? I'd say the American decline can be directly related to the rise of leftists in our government. The American experience you spoke of was never saddled with a gigantic government which seemingly attracts liberals who see the government as the end-all. They weren't burdened with the gigantic obstacles that the post-60s hippie left has placed on this country. We have been dumbed down, we have lost our competitive edge and we have been duped into believing that the things that seperated us from the rest of the pack are the things that are now holding us back. I hold the post 60s radicals that makeup most of our local/state/national government as well as "education" field directly responsible for our decline.
Rather since Eisenhower we've been working hard to maintain the empire. Imperialism is expensive and will eventually cause our collapse ala the Romans.
Stay home

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jul 2, 2008
I can't believe this is a story. If you can't afford $4 gast to drive less than 200 miles. You probably should not have been driving home anyway. Cars have break downs, etc. What would you have done then?
Tired

United States

#7 Jul 2, 2008
It's funny how people blame the high cost of gasoline on how the people with the freedom to chose, chose to live, rather than the greed of the oil producers. All they have done is take, since there has been nothing invested into replacing the oil refineries that were forced to close by the federal government. Closing these have created the artificial shortages that we have faced. Profiteering will cause the downfall of this great nation.
The

Baraboo, WI

#8 Jul 2, 2008
I'm going fishing. Hope the Walleye's are biting. Happy 4th to all.
Please do NOT drink and drive. There is increased enforcement so find a designated driver, cab, etc. Be safe all.
NRA 4ever

Brainerd, MN

#9 Jul 2, 2008
Don't tell me what I will do this weekend. I will be driving circles around town in my Ford F-350. Then I will mow my lawn, use the leaf blower, drive my boat and jet ski around. Then I'm going to fly my plane around and flick everyone off. These articles will not influence me.
GRP

Plymouth, MN

#10 Jul 2, 2008
highlandr1 wrote:
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First of all, you should know the meaning of the ter you use "In politics, "left-wing", "the political left", or "the Left" are terms that refer to politics that seek to reform or abolish existing social hierarchies and promote a more equal distribution of wealth and privilege. In general, the left advocates for a society where all people have an equal opportunity, which they often describe as a "level playing field". Toward this end, most people who consider themselves left-wing support labor unions.[1] The term "the Left" can encompass a number of ideologies, including Progressivism, Social liberalism, Social democracy, Left-libertarianism, Socialism, Syndicalism, Marxism, Communism, and mainstream Anarchism." I don't see the people in charge now, or in the past looking to "even" the playng field ... but just the opposite. IF they get heir way, there would be no "middle-class" at all. Just the poor and weak and the rich and the mighty. Sometimes I think we have just let ourselves believe that once we were the most powerful militarly, economically, greatest industrial power in the world (and we may have well been at one time) and unfortunately still believe that we are without maintaining the infra-structure, keeping a strong dollar in the world's economy and exporting more than we import by making things in this country that can compete in the marketplace without going into debt to do it. I don't think you can narrow it down to just one group of poeple since neither the Democrats or the Republicans have made matters much better, but have actually worsened things over the years.
highlandr1 - your left definition is outdated and inaccurate. "Left" hasn't been equal opportunity for quite some time - it is clearly the redistribution of wealth from those who have (including the middle class) to those who have not. Except the have nots now, have all the opportunity in the world. They chose do little or nothing because the "left" will take from the haves and continue to incent poor lifestyle decisions to maintain and grow their base. The "right" is not without fault here. The rino right has bought into this BS and helps facilitate the insane spending.

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#11 Jul 2, 2008
Stay home wrote:
I can't believe this is a story. If you can't afford $4 gast to drive less than 200 miles. You probably should not have been driving home anyway. Cars have break downs, etc. What would you have done then?
I agree. let's say she wants to put on a 400 mile round trip this weekend like she usually does. Average 20 mpg means 20 gallons of fuel. If gas was $2 per gallon cheaper the savings would amount to a whopping $40.$20 savings at $3 a gallon gas. I say make the trip and eat cheaper meals.
H B Smith

Chippewa Falls, WI

#12 Jul 2, 2008
Tired wrote:
It's funny how people blame the high cost of gasoline on how the people with the freedom to chose, chose to live, rather than the greed of the oil producers. All they have done is take, since there has been nothing invested into replacing the oil refineries that were forced to close by the federal government. Closing these have created the artificial shortages that we have faced. Profiteering will cause the downfall of this great nation.
I agree with your statement, with the exception that the American public, acting like lemmings, have allowed this to happen, and let big oil control our lives.
While prices are low, and people can do all the fun things things like boat, 4 wheel, vacation, motorhome, etc. Now that prices have risen due to world demand, created shortage, or whatever, everyone is concerned because they don't think they should have to give anything up.

The oil companies have no financial motive to change, until people quit buying or depending on gas. Once the gas companies profits start dropping, they will look for more efficient ways to produce and the market should correct the gas price.

I'm not a tree hugger, but I went from driving a newer full size conversion van, to an 18 year old Ford Escort. Not because I couldn't afford it, but I refuse to give big oil any more money than I have to.
Mark

United States

#13 Jul 2, 2008
OK, what I'm saying will be EXTREMELY unpopular, but you need to hear it. First, have a very happy Fourth of July, please take advantage of those 10,000 lakes, the great freshwater fishing, and remember that it's only money, and time with friends and family is precious and well-spent. Spare a thought to those expatriate Minnesotans who cannot be home to enjoy some of the splendors of the Minnesota lakes and woods at this time of year.
Now the unpopular part, the part that gets me lynched: We need a $2 a gallon federal tax on the sale of gasoline in this country. We can lock in high prices for gas that way, and get our countrymen making better, more rational choices for vehicle purchases. Choices based on real driving needs, not aspirations. Did you know that 95% of the four-wheel-drive vehicles in the Washingon, D.C. area are NEVER driven off road?! That's the kind of thing I mean. Also, we are now involved in the biggest wealth transfer among nations in human history. Fully 1.5 billion dollars per day leaves America and goes to the MidEast via the gas nozzle. A $2 per gallon tax will at least keep some of that money here in the US. Sure, the government will probably blow it on some new toy for the Air Force, but it COULD go to infrastructure reinvestment, high-speed rail, social security, or a Canadian style national health care system. Or we could pay down the debt to one of our unnecessary wars, but at least SOME of the money would stay here!
God bless you all in Minnesota; wish I could be with you, and enjoy! Good posts; I've enjoyed sampling your opinions.
St Paulie Girl

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Jul 2, 2008
Mark wrote:
OK, what I'm saying will be EXTREMELY unpopular, but you need to hear it. First, have a very happy Fourth of July, please take advantage of those 10,000 lakes, the great freshwater fishing, and remember that it's only money, and time with friends and family is precious and well-spent. Spare a thought to those expatriate Minnesotans who cannot be home to enjoy some of the splendors of the Minnesota lakes and woods at this time of year.
Now the unpopular part, the part that gets me lynched: We need a $2 a gallon federal tax on the sale of gasoline in this country. We can lock in high prices for gas that way, and get our countrymen making better, more rational choices for vehicle purchases. Choices based on real driving needs, not aspirations. Did you know that 95% of the four-wheel-drive vehicles in the Washingon, D.C. area are NEVER driven off road?! That's the kind of thing I mean. Also, we are now involved in the biggest wealth transfer among nations in human history. Fully 1.5 billion dollars per day leaves America and goes to the MidEast via the gas nozzle. A $2 per gallon tax will at least keep some of that money here in the US. Sure, the government will probably blow it on some new toy for the Air Force, but it COULD go to infrastructure reinvestment, high-speed rail, social security, or a Canadian style national health care system. Or we could pay down the debt to one of our unnecessary wars, but at least SOME of the money would stay here!
God bless you all in Minnesota; wish I could be with you, and enjoy! Good posts; I've enjoyed sampling your opinions.
A good chunk of that gas prices already stay in the United States. Nearly 10% of the cost is Federal taxes already, and that doesn't even count state taxes added on.

When gas rises like it has been, it affects all of us in every way. The uniform cleaning at my work has risen 30% this year to cover increased delivery costs. I don't have to go down the list of things flying way past the rate of inflation due to gas prices. You are absolutely insane to think adding 30% to the cost at this time would do anything but cripple the economy.

I don't know the solution to the gas problem, but we can look at history to figure out taxing it to death is not going to help.
Tom D

United States

#15 Jul 2, 2008
How many articles like this do we have to read? Stop wasting paper. We all know the price of gas and we have all seen at least 100 news stories and newspaper artiles about the 1% that will stay home this year. This poor lady isn't going to go on an 85 mile trip because gas is $1.00 more than last year. Her car problably gets 15 miles/gallon. That is $5 savings each way by staying home. Can we please just stop with half the paper and half the news about gas prices? We all know it has gone up.
Obamanomics

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Jul 2, 2008
Gas is expensive. It will be expensive until the day you die. Adapt.
Anne

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Jul 2, 2008
Democrats couldn't care less about high gas prices. The consistent policy of the Democratic Party, going back at least to Jimmy Carter, has been to jack up gas prices so we can all start pedaling around on tricycles.

Environmentalists are constantly clamoring for higher gas taxes as the cure-all to their insane global warming theory. Clinton proposed a 26-cent tax on gas. John Kerry said it should be 50 cents. Gore endorsed the Malthusian proposal of Paul and Anne Ehrlich in "The Population Explosion" that gas taxes be raised gradually to match prices in Europe and Japan.

The result is consumers now pay about 46 cents per gallon in gasoline taxes. That's not including taxes paid directly to the government by the oil companies and passed onto consumers. As the inestimable economist John Lott has pointed out, in the past 25 years oil companies have paid more than three times in taxes what they have made in profits.

Obama's response to soaring gas prices is to have the oil companies collect even more money from us at the pump, proposing a "windfall profits tax" on oil companies. "Corporate taxes" sound like taxes on rich people, but all they do is force corporations to collect taxes on behalf of the government.

Democrats have worked hard to ensure that Americans pay as much for gas as Europeans do. After a quarter-century of gas tax hikes, a ban on drilling for oil and a complete destruction of the nuclear power industry in America, I guess liberals can declare: Mission accomplished!
In response to skyrocketing gas prices, liberals say, practically in unison, "We can't drill our way out of this crisis."

What does that mean? This is like telling a starving man, "You can't eat your way out of being hungry!" "You can't water your way out of drought!" "You can't sleep your way out of tiredness!" "You can't drink yourself out of dehydration!"

Seriously, what does it mean? Finding more oil isn't going to increase the supply of oil?
It is the typical Democratic strategy to babble meaningless slogans, as if they have a plan.
How do liberals propose we acquire the energy required for the economic activity and production that results in light appearing when they flick a switch? The larger enterprise involved in producing that little miracle eludes them.

Liberals complain that -- as Obama put it -- there's "no way that allowing offshore drilling would lower gas prices right now. At best you are looking at five years or more down the road."
This is as opposed to airplanes that run on woodchips, which should be up and running any moment now.

Moreover, what was going on five years ago? Why didn't anyone propose drilling back then?

Six long years ago President Bush had the foresight to demand that Congress allow drilling in a minuscule portion of the Alaska's barren, uninhabitable Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). In 2002, Bush, Tom DeLay and the entire Republican Party were screaming from the rooftops: Drill! Drill! Drill!

We'd be gushing oil now -- except the Democrats stopped us from drilling.

Drilling on only 0.01 percent of ANWR's 19 million acres was projected to produce about 10 billion barrels of oil. From all domestic sources combined, we currently produce about 1.8 billion barrels of oil per year. To a layperson like myself, 10 billion barrels seems like a lot of oil.

The other party -- plus John McCain -- ferociously opposed drilling in ANWR, drilling offshore or drilling anyplace else. Instead of Drill! Drill! Drill!, their motto could be: Kill! Kill! Kill!

I refuse to believe they care about Americans having to pay high gas prices.
Obamanomics

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Jul 2, 2008
Anne,

Write your own stuff.
Mark

United States

#19 Jul 2, 2008
Insane? Hmm. A 30% increase in the costs of gas WOULD be a shock to the economy as a whole, and each of us individually, but the money would stay in the country, at least. Most of it goes overseas now. Drill our way out of this mess? Hmm. Guess what? They'll do it with NO guarantee that the oil companies will sell it here; in fact, most of it would be sold overseas,(Alaska's would be sold in east Asia), and it would only marginally lower prices. We will have to adapt to higher prices, we will have to get used to it. If you want less of something, tax it. It will lessen our use of the product, and it will keep our money in the country.
It seems to me

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Jul 2, 2008
SPAM!!!
Anne wrote:
Democrats couldn't care less about high gas prices. The consistent policy of the Democratic Party, going back at least to Jimmy Carter, has been to jack up gas prices so we can all start pedaling around on tricycles.
Environmentalists are constantly clamoring for higher gas taxes as the cure-all to their insane global warming theory. Clinton proposed a 26-cent tax on gas. John Kerry said it should be 50 cents. Gore endorsed the Malthusian proposal of Paul and Anne Ehrlich in "The Population Explosion" that gas taxes be raised gradually to match prices in Europe and Japan.
The result is consumers now pay about 46 cents per gallon in gasoline taxes. That's not including taxes paid directly to the government by the oil companies and passed onto consumers. As the inestimable economist John Lott has pointed out, in the past 25 years oil companies have paid more than three times in taxes what they have made in profits.
Obama's response to soaring gas prices is to have the oil companies collect even more money from us at the pump, proposing a "windfall profits tax" on oil companies. "Corporate taxes" sound like taxes on rich people, but all they do is force corporations to collect taxes on behalf of the government.
Democrats have worked hard to ensure that Americans pay as much for gas as Europeans do. After a quarter-century of gas tax hikes, a ban on drilling for oil and a complete destruction of the nuclear power industry in America, I guess liberals can declare: Mission accomplished!
In response to skyrocketing gas prices, liberals say, practically in unison, "We can't drill our way out of this crisis."
What does that mean? This is like telling a starving man, "You can't eat your way out of being hungry!" "You can't water your way out of drought!" "You can't sleep your way out of tiredness!" "You can't drink yourself out of dehydration!"
Seriously, what does it mean? Finding more oil isn't going to increase the supply of oil?
It is the typical Democratic strategy to babble meaningless slogans, as if they have a plan.
How do liberals propose we acquire the energy required for the economic activity and production that results in light appearing when they flick a switch? The larger enterprise involved in producing that little miracle eludes them.
Liberals complain that -- as Obama put it -- there's "no way that allowing offshore drilling would lower gas prices right now. At best you are looking at five years or more down the road."
This is as opposed to airplanes that run on woodchips, which should be up and running any moment now.
Moreover, what was going on five years ago? Why didn't anyone propose drilling back then?
Six long years ago President Bush had the foresight to demand that Congress allow drilling in a minuscule portion of the Alaska's barren, uninhabitable Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). In 2002, Bush, Tom DeLay and the entire Republican Party were screaming from the rooftops: Drill! Drill! Drill!
We'd be gushing oil now -- except the Democrats stopped us from drilling.
Drilling on only 0.01 percent of ANWR's 19 million acres was projected to produce about 10 billion barrels of oil. From all domestic sources combined, we currently produce about 1.8 billion barrels of oil per year. To a layperson like myself, 10 billion barrels seems like a lot of oil.
The other party -- plus John McCain -- ferociously opposed drilling in ANWR, drilling offshore or drilling anyplace else. Instead of Drill! Drill! Drill!, their motto could be: Kill! Kill! Kill!
I refuse to believe they care about Americans having to pay high gas prices.

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