Rise above myths about immigration

Rise above myths about immigration

There are 23 comments on the www.owatonna.com story from Apr 22, 2010, titled Rise above myths about immigration. In it, www.owatonna.com reports that:

As I hear about renewed discussion of immigration reform, I have to admit that, for many years, I have had some real myths in my mind about immigrants - myths that I never really challenged.

Thursday April 22 nd 2010 owatonna.com A pro activists stance on illegal Mexican immigration. How they impact the community in a positive way .

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Since: Dec 06

Chicago IL

#1 Apr 22, 2010
Ya right...
Jobs American's won't do one more time .
The writer of this pro article is one sided no facts .
Assumptions .
Patriotism as Racism

Santa Ana, CA

#2 Apr 22, 2010
RadicalTim wrote:
Ya right...
Jobs American's won't do one more time .
The writer of this pro article is one sided no facts .
Assumptions .
Have you ever seen an American sell oranges from a freeway off ramp or an American day labor at Home Depot?

I didn't think so.

So much for claiming Americans will do anything for a job becuase if that was the case then why are you not shoveling cow crap at your local dairy?

It's OK to live in denial but you make it so obvious.
Marie

Waterloo, Canada

#3 Apr 22, 2010
Yes actually I do on a regular basis see Americans on the side of the road in parking lots of businesses that have left the area selling produce. And wood, as in the firewood you would use in your fireplace. At one time, maybe there were jobs Americans wouldn't do, but people are struggling now.

Since: Dec 06

Chicago IL

#4 Apr 22, 2010
Patriotism as Racism wrote:
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Have you ever seen an American sell oranges from a freeway off ramp or an American day labor at Home Depot?
I didn't think so.
So much for claiming Americans will do anything for a job becuase if that was the case then why are you not shoveling cow crap at your local dairy?
It's OK to live in denial but you make it so obvious.
Yes I have,
Many in this county have lost their homes..
Patriotism as Racism

Santa Ana, CA

#5 Apr 22, 2010
RadicalTim wrote:
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Yes I have,
Many in this county have lost their homes..
So I see your into scapegoating immigrants for every single issue America encounters.

Sad...

Since: Dec 06

Chicago IL

#6 Apr 22, 2010
Patriotism as Racism wrote:
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So I see your into scapegoating immigrants for every single issue America encounters.
Sad...
I live in Cook County try again....

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#7 Apr 22, 2010
Patriotism as Racism wrote:
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Have you ever seen an American sell oranges from a freeway off ramp or an American day labor at Home Depot?
We have mom and pop farms all over the place out on the east coast run by Americans, picked by Americans.
JBK

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Apr 22, 2010
Patriotism as Racism wrote:
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Have you ever seen an American sell oranges from a freeway off ramp or an American day labor at Home Depot?
I didn't think so.
So much for claiming Americans will do anything for a job becuase if that was the case then why are you not shoveling cow crap at your local dairy?
It's OK to live in denial but you make it so obvious.
Very well said ! The reality is that most Americans are living in denial and many don't even understand they are displaying it.

I know so many lazy asses that will not work just about any job because they feel it is below their dignity. So well, if they decide to sit home, don't expect the others to do the same. Atleast the illegals pick your produce and clean your cities or it would look just as bad as any third world country.

“THE RUMBLE WILL BECOME A ROAR”

Since: Dec 06

United States of America

#9 Apr 22, 2010
JBK wrote:
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Very well said ! The reality is that most Americans are living in denial and many don't even understand they are displaying it.
I know so many lazy asses that will not work just about any job because they feel it is below their dignity. So well, if they decide to sit home, don't expect the others to do the same. Atleast the illegals pick your produce and clean your cities or it would look just as bad as any third world country.
Gee, I wonder who did those jobs before the illegals came and undercut our wages? There is no legal job that an American will not do if he has a family to feed. The illegal jobs like drug smuggling and selling stolen identities, most (and you will note that I said most) Americans with families won't do. We do have enough homegrown criminals that we have good reason not to wish to import more!
carlos m

Pasadena, CA

#10 Apr 23, 2010
Patriotism as Racism wrote:
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Have you ever seen an American sell oranges from a freeway off ramp or an American day labor at Home Depot?
I didn't think so.
So much for claiming Americans will do anything for a job becuase if that was the case then why are you not shoveling cow crap at your local dairy?
It's OK to live in denial but you make it so obvious.
I worked for a temp agency after the Northridge earthquake. Americans don't do day labor because we apply for jobs like I had for 12 years. I quit because of a shoulder injury that I sustained doing demolition after the 94 quake became reinjured and required having a tendon re-attached with staples in my shoulder. The surgery is called Rotater Cuff surgery. I was doing work that you said Americans won't do. I have shoveled pig chit on a ranch,I have thinned onions,and I have washed dishes. BTW;all jobs that illegal aliens do,are done by Americans in the majority;including agriculture. Illegal alien contribute nothing but crime,drug dealing,wage suppression,high rent,graffiti,and THIS!!!
Marie

Warwick, RI

#11 Apr 23, 2010
I am saying I live in a rural area and in the winter I see Americans trying to sell firewood that they cut themselves and put in the back of a truck with a little cardboard sign. And then I see different people in the spring selling produce as well as plants they started from seed. There are a lot of lazy Americans. That is true. But there are plenty of us who realize our beloved country is in trouble. Stores are closing, cost of living increases, yet I haven't had a raise in 2 years now. And I feel the pinch. My employer lives under the threat of lost wages because Congress won't deal with the Medicare sustainable growth rate. We treat everyone regardless of status or ability to pay. That cost has to be recouped at some point though.
Marie

Warwick, RI

#12 Apr 23, 2010
Patriotism as Racism wrote:
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So I see your into scapegoating immigrants for every single issue America encounters.
Sad...
Not at all. But, someone has to pay at some point. We keep passing it from generation to generation. At some point someone has to stand up and say stop. We can't continue the way things are going. Its not sustainable. Its not practical for the illegal immigrants either. But to say they perform jobs Americans won't do is bull. They do jobs cheaper than an American maybe. Think about it. No payroll taxes for undocumented workers. No federal tax either. Nothing going into Medicare. So what do we do to fix that? Amnesty? Ok so do we not let them collect Medicare and social security unless they have paid in? Oh, no wait. We can't do that. Deport all of them? That's not feasible either. I'm just saying its complicated.
3 Blind Mice

Stillwater, OK

#13 Apr 23, 2010
RadicalTim wrote:
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Yes I have,
Many in this county have lost their homes..
People lost there homes due to an orchestrated Wall street housing bubble [conducted by White Americans] <-- Please prove me wrong!

What does Americans losing their homes and living waged jobs have to do with some illegal immigrant selling oranges on the freeway offramp?

Never mind, you and your Ilk will defiantly ignore the facts & manipulate the truth for your own twisted cause.
3 Blind Mice

Stillwater, OK

#14 Apr 23, 2010
Fed up Suffolk Taxpayer wrote:
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We have mom and pop farms all over the place out on the east coast run by Americans, picked by Americans.
You don't have to lie to kick it...
3 Blind Mice

Stillwater, OK

#15 Apr 23, 2010
NON COMPLACENT TWINK wrote:
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Gee, I wonder who did those jobs before the illegals came and undercut our wages? There is no legal job that an American will not do if he has a family to feed. The illegal jobs like drug smuggling and selling stolen identities, most (and you will note that I said most) Americans with families won't do. We do have enough homegrown criminals that we have good reason not to wish to import more!
You ignoramus, before the term illegal immigrant was bestowed upon the Latino community which was no more than 40-60 years ago, America had the well known program titled the Bracero Program which brought in Latin American migrant workers during WW2 & long after up till the early 1960's to do all those jobs that illegal immigrants supposedly do today. Where do you think American employers got the idea to encourage illegal immigration in the first place?

If you're trying to claim that Americans did those jobs prior to illegal immigrants you are so full of crap, lies, manipulation of the truth, and god knows what else.

Latin Americans have always done many jobs that Americans refuse to do going back well before the 1930's. Why else would the USA have forced out Mexicans from America during the great depression?

There are many jobs that Americans will simply not do and to stand before the audience and claim that Americans will do any job no matter what is full of half-truths, lies, manipulation, and bias that only shows your true intention of bigotry.
Somebody Shoot Her

San Antonio, TX

#16 Apr 23, 2010
Marie wrote:
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Not at all. But, someone has to pay at some point. We keep passing it from generation to generation. At some point someone has to stand up and say stop. We can't continue the way things are going. Its not sustainable. Its not practical for the illegal immigrants either. But to say they perform jobs Americans won't do is bull. They do jobs cheaper than an American maybe. Think about it. No payroll taxes for undocumented workers. No federal tax either. Nothing going into Medicare. So what do we do to fix that? Amnesty? Ok so do we not let them collect Medicare and social security unless they have paid in? Oh, no wait. We can't do that. Deport all of them? That's not feasible either. I'm just saying its complicated.
Before you mindlessly rant how uninformed you are on the subject mater, please educate yourself on the topic first.

You make Americans look rather silly.
Dee Dee Dee

Lake Hiawatha, NJ

#17 Apr 23, 2010
We have to rise above the myth that illegal immigrants just want to make a better life for their families.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens do the jobs Americans won’t do.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens are good for the economy.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens do not depress wages.
We have to rise above the myth that without illegal aliens the cost of everything would rise uncontrollably.
We have to rise above the myth that “comprehensive immigration reform” is not amnesty.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens to want to integrate into American society.
Fed Up With White Trash

San Antonio, TX

#18 Apr 23, 2010
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
We have to rise above the myth that illegal immigrants just want to make a better life for their families.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens do the jobs Americans won’t do.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens are good for the economy.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens do not depress wages.
We have to rise above the myth that without illegal aliens the cost of everything would rise uncontrollably.
We have to rise above the myth that “comprehensive immigration reform” is not amnesty.
We have to rise above the myth that illegal aliens to want to integrate into American society.
Why don't you just say the truth, that you want AmeriKKKa to remain all pasty & peachy Cracker White.
Dee Dee Dee

Lake Hiawatha, NJ

#19 Apr 23, 2010
Fed Up With White Trash wrote:
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Why don't you just say the truth, that you want AmeriKKKa to remain all pasty & peachy Cracker White.
Why don't you just admit that you are an ignorant racist?

“THE RUMBLE WILL BECOME A ROAR”

Since: Dec 06

United States of America

#20 Apr 23, 2010
3 Blind Mice wrote:
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You ignoramus, before the term illegal immigrant was bestowed upon the Latino community which was no more than 40-60 years ago, America had the well known program titled the Bracero Program which brought in Latin American migrant workers during WW2 & long after up till the early 1960's to do all those jobs that illegal immigrants supposedly do today. Where do you think American employers got the idea to encourage illegal immigration in the first place?
If you're trying to claim that Americans did those jobs prior to illegal immigrants you are so full of crap, lies, manipulation of the truth, and god knows what else.
Latin Americans have always done many jobs that Americans refuse to do going back well before the 1930's. Why else would the USA have forced out Mexicans from America during the great depression?
There are many jobs that Americans will simply not do and to stand before the audience and claim that Americans will do any job no matter what is full of half-truths, lies, manipulation, and bias that only shows your true intention of bigotry.
An American with a family to feed will do any job and I will stand by that. Not all Americans are white collar workers, I have had family that have worked in Oregon in the logging industry and on the railroad, those who worked in foundries. Those who were in the military including my father for 33 years and God knows they don't start off with jobs sitting behind a desk, they peel potatos, wash dishes by the ton, mop decks and clean up garbage. My mother worked in a hosiery mill for 20 years and in a ceramic plant (making ceramic, electrical conductors) for another 20 years. We still had a farm to work, you know, planting, bending over to harvest, and yes, we plowed with a mule and raised and smoked our own pigs in the smoke house. We milked the cows, churned the butter and buttermilk, etc. We raised our own chickens, killed, plucked and cut them up to cook, I still do! We washed clothes in a cast iron pot over a stove and used part of a broom stick to get them from the boiling rinse water to the clothes line where they were hung to dry. I do have the convenience of an electric washer and dryer now.
We picked wild berries and made jams and jellies, and I still do. When I say we, I am speaking of my grandmother and me.
I'm a 66 year old and still I'm a working woman although retired from the corporate world. The farm I live on now is owned by my son and we have a tractor but the tractor does not do all the work, it still takes human hands. We did it and have done it without the help of illegals and without any government handouts.
Don't give me your garbage about illegals being the only ones who will willingly work, I've been there, done that and still am doing it and I have a couple of college degrees. It has been the large corporate farmers who chose to hire illegals to do their dirty work, not the average American, and then the industrial corporations jumped on the band wagon.
You may be someone who has never gotten you hands dirty but mine have always been wash and wear, drip dry and Sanforized and there are plenty of Americans who have worked just as hard and still continue to do so.
I have written this without calling you any nasty names and would appreciate the same respect from you if you choose to answer my post.

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