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Teen's Court Hearing Closed To Public -- Courant.com

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A 16-year-old Bloomfield High School student appeared before a Superior Court judge Wednesday to answer charges that he tried to kill his father in his sleep by stabbing him repeatedly at the family home.

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Pat

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Sep 7, 2007
 
Violence teaches one thing - violence. Parents who hit their children sometimes have to pay for it when the child grows up.
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Sep 7, 2007
 
You are assuming this kid was hit
as a child .Truefully that old wooden spoon needs to be dusted off
in some cases , parent should not have to fear thier kids ........
But on the serious note this is not
the case here .Nobody knows what the
motive was. I happen to know these
people and doubt the teen was ever abused .
Pat

Granby, CT

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Sep 7, 2007
 
nikki sc wrote:
You are assuming this kid was hit
as a child .Truefully that old wooden spoon needs to be dusted off
in some cases , parent should not have to fear thier kids ........
But on the serious note this is not
the case here .Nobody knows what the
motive was. I happen to know these
people and doubt the teen was ever abused .
You are in Orlando FL and you say you know these people? I have family on that very street with children this boy's age that are good friends with this boy and it is crystal clear to me this father hit this boy. Just recently this kid had a black eye and other bruises.
Mike Hawk

Naugatuck, CT

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Sep 7, 2007
 
<<Superior Court Judge Everett H. Madin Jr. closed the hearing to the public, opting to treat the defendant as a youthful offender, a status that offers privacy to some juveniles whose criminal cases are heard in adult courts.>>

Well how private is it now? This is also a quote from the story.
"Bloomfield police received a 911 call early Tuesday at 23 Capewell Drive. Robert Simmons had been stabbed more than two dozen times in the head and torso."

Why should this be kept a secret in the first place?
hartford resident

Guilford, CT

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Sep 7, 2007
 
this is sad and i'm glad that the father survived 20 stabs. By the grace of God this man is alive. I hope that they find out a motive and the young boy either gets treatment or proper punishment.
nikki sc

Columbia, SC

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Sep 7, 2007
 
Pat wrote:
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You are in Orlando FL and you say you know these people? I have family on that very street with children this boy's age that are good friends with this boy and it is crystal clear to me this father hit this boy. Just recently this kid had a black eye and other bruises.
FIrst I don't know why it comes up
Florida but I'm in SC .But I lived
on that street for 24 yrs, moved last fall.I was not aware of any abuse to the kid,so thats my mistake .I always saw the kid in
the lunch line at school.
Forgive my assumption as you seem to
have more first hand info than I .
Small world wonder who your
related to.
Davida

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Sep 7, 2007
 
This is what happens when parents lose their rights to be parents. Back in the day when parents, teachers, adults period were able to raise the children collectively without interference the children and youth had more respect and were too fearful to try something like this.
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Sep 7, 2007
 
Davida wrote:
This is what happens when parents lose their rights to be parents. Back in the day when parents, teachers, adults period were able to raise the children collectively without interference the children and youth had more respect and were too fearful to try something like this.
Amen
Mike Hawk

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Sep 7, 2007
 
nikki sc wrote:
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FIrst I don't know why it comes up
Florida but I'm in SC .But I lived
on that street for 24 yrs, moved last fall.I was not aware of any abuse to the kid,so thats my mistake .I always saw the kid in
the lunch line at school.
Forgive my assumption as you seem to
have more first hand info than I .
Small world wonder who your
related to.
I wouldn't be so quick to chastise myself if I were you. There is no documentation of any abuse and the story said that the kid had been on the school football team but was not any longer. Those bruises and black eye could have happened anytime, anywhere, by a zillion different scenarios. If the father were systemically abusing the boy physically, I don't think he would have been stupid enough to hit him in the face and eye where bruising would be easily spotted.
I seriously doubt he hit the kid at all.

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Sep 8, 2007
 
Mike Hawk wrote:
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I wouldn't be so quick to chastise myself if I were you. There is no documentation of any abuse and the story said that the kid had been on the school football team but was not any longer. Those bruises and black eye could have happened anytime, anywhere, by a zillion different scenarios. If the father were systemically abusing the boy physically, I don't think he would have been stupid enough to hit him in the face and eye where bruising would be easily spotted.
I seriously doubt he hit the kid at all.
me too
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Sep 8, 2007
 
The boy(my close friend)was really sweet and would never do anything like this.......... He must of had a lot of things o his mind for him to do something so terrible ........ he's probably traumatized from abuse ...that would be an understandable reason to do something like this .......... i dont think he did this just to do it

****be safe J, we love you****:(
Poodle

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Sep 9, 2007
 
Pat wrote:
Violence teaches one thing - violence. Parents who hit their children sometimes have to pay for it when the child grows up.
As a former teacher in Bloomfield, I am sure that there were many, many signs that this kid had issues. No one just wakes up one day & says, "I'm going to stab my father." I can almost guarantee that he had behavior issues in school, his grades were not what they should be or now in high school, was alowed to play despote these issues. Look at the rest of the High School community. Football is the priority despite grades, behavior, or the mental health of these kids. I can also predict that when teachers tried to intervene, the attitude was that his parents just swept it under the rug. Now they must finally take responsibility for the monster they have created
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Sep 9, 2007
 
I go to Bloomfield High School and the boy who did this was one of my closest friends. Yes, his father did abuse him. There's no question about it all of our friends knew, but he never really told us. I don't know about any black eye (it could have happened over the summer thought), but he came to school freshman year with many bruises (most were on his head and some on his arms) and they were done by his father. The news was right we all knew that something about him was off and he did have very serious anger management issues, but I wouldn't have expected this from my friend. I and I'm sure all of the BHS kids wish him and his younger brother the best because I know he's only thinking of his brothers well being right now.
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Sep 9, 2007
 
Who are all you people? How can you even presume to know about the accused, my family member? None of you know him like I do. Stop assuming things! The accused was a star football player, did get good grades, comes from a loving and very hands on family. Both the mother and father helped to raise their son the best they could. There were no signs and let me just set the record straight, the accused was NOT abused. The black eye everyone wants to speak of came from football practice. It was not uncommon for the accused to have bruises seeing as he was committed to being the best football player he could be. For the sake of my family pray for them and the accused. Forget trying to have your five minutes of fame on this blog and just pray you never experience what my family is experiencing. "J" we love you and will see you and the family thru this. Love me!
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Sep 9, 2007
 
BHS Junior wrote:
I go to Bloomfield High School and the boy who did this was one of my closest friends. Yes, his father did abuse him. There's no question about it all of our friends knew, but he never really told us. I don't know about any black eye (it could have happened over the summer thought), but he came to school freshman year with many bruises (most were on his head and some on his arms) and they were done by his father. The news was right we all knew that something about him was off and he did have very serious anger management issues, but I wouldn't have expected this from my friend. I and I'm sure all of the BHS kids wish him and his younger brother the best because I know he's only thinking of his brothers well being right now.
STOP telling these LIES. "J" was not abused! I am as close as you can get to "J" for he is my family. Out of respect for our family stop trying to get your five minutes of fame! Pray instead that the family and "J" get thru this!

“"Family Is My Strength"”

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Sep 9, 2007
 
Poodle wrote:
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As a former teacher in Bloomfield, I am sure that there were many, many signs that this kid had issues. No one just wakes up one day & says, "I'm going to stab my father." I can almost guarantee that he had behavior issues in school, his grades were not what they should be or now in high school, was alowed to play despote these issues. Look at the rest of the High School community. Football is the priority despite grades, behavior, or the mental health of these kids. I can also predict that when teachers tried to intervene, the attitude was that his parents just swept it under the rug. Now they must finally take responsibility for the monster they have created
Poodle, don't ever for one minute think this kid was your typical screw up! As for his parents, they were the most involved parents and how dare you blame them! What was your quote, "Take responsibilty for the monster they have created". You should be ashamed of yourself for daring to tarnish their parental values! They were and are strong parents who gave their child nothing but love and undeniable attention. They don't know why he did what he did and you owe them a public apology! If I knew who you really were I would have a good old fashioned sit down with you to help you better understand them as parents. For all of you our their looking to blame the parents, DON'T! The blame lies with their son. Poodle you are a disgrace to the teaching community of Bloomfield!
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Sep 10, 2007
 
I am very close to the family and I know first hand that the child was not abused. He was disciplined (without physical abuse) just as a child should be. I'm sure he didn't agree with some of the disciplinary actions, but what kid does? It's sad but many people are making assumptions on things that they really know nothing about. I think everyone should pray for both the child and his father and hope that the power of prayer will help both get through this difficult situation. It's a tough situation for both to deal with and all the negative comments are really unecessary.
Poodle

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Sep 11, 2007
 
Pray for our family wrote:
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Poodle, don't ever for one minute think this kid was your typical screw up! As for his parents, they were the most involved parents and how dare you blame them! What was your quote, "Take responsibilty for the monster they have created". You should be ashamed of yourself for daring to tarnish their parental values! They were and are strong parents who gave their child nothing but love and undeniable attention. They don't know why he did what he did and you owe them a public apology! If I knew who you really were I would have a good old fashioned sit down with you to help you better understand them as parents. For all of you our their looking to blame the parents, DON'T! The blame lies with their son. Poodle you are a disgrace to the teaching community of Bloomfield!
I AM SORRY THAT THE TRUE HURTS. SO WHO WOULD HAVE ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY OFR THIS ACTION. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR JUSTIFYING THIS KID'S ACTIONS. YOU MAKE NO COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT THERE WERE SIGNS LONG BEFORE THIS. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS--THAT THE PARENT CREATED THIS MONSTER BY ABUSING HIM OR THAT THE PARENTS CREATED THIS MONSTER BY IGNORING THE SIGNS THAT OBVIOUSLY WERE THERE PRIOR TO THIS CRIME.THAT THEY DID NOT GET HIM THE HELP THAT HE NEEDED. THE ONLY OTHER POSSIBILITY IS THAT YOU ACCEPT THAT ANY 16 Y.O WILL SUDDENLY SNAP & ASSAULT ANYONE. IF THAT IS THE CASE, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP YOUR A*S WHERE YOUR TOLERANCE FOR BULL***T RATHER THAN TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
Sharks out there

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Sep 12, 2007
 
Davida wrote:
This is what happens when parents lose their rights to be parents. Back in the day when parents, teachers, adults period were able to raise the children collectively without interference the children and youth had more respect and were too fearful to try something like this.
I second the Amen! It takes a village to raise the children.
Sharks out there

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Pray for our family wrote:
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Poodle, don't ever for one minute think this kid was your typical screw up! As for his parents, they were the most involved parents and how dare you blame them! What was your quote, "Take responsibilty for the monster they have created". You should be ashamed of yourself for daring to tarnish their parental values! They were and are strong parents who gave their child nothing but love and undeniable attention. They don't know why he did what he did and you owe them a public apology! If I knew who you really were I would have a good old fashioned sit down with you to help you better understand them as parents. For all of you our their looking to blame the parents, DON'T! The blame lies with their son. Poodle you are a disgrace to the teaching community of Bloomfield!
Amen! Poodle, you were probably one of those teachers who didn't do his job either. My son was on the football team and let me tell you, when he didn't have a passing grade he was sidelined. Now if you want to me grade the teachers at Bloomfield High. I would fail some! English teacher (yr2001) woman! Just put it this way, she is no longer at the school. To the family, I am not here to pass any judgment, I will keep all in my prayers. It's sad and this family needs counselling. Stay strong!
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