DWI victims relive painful memories t...

DWI victims relive painful memories to prevent future victims o...

There are 17 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Dec 25, 2008, titled DWI victims relive painful memories to prevent future victims o.... In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Aztec resident Carol Kohler reflects in the memory of her late daughter, Elena Marie Leslie, who was among three that died in 1990 from a DWI related car wreck on U.S. 550.

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A Good Friend

United States

#1 Dec 26, 2008
Being friends with Eleana and Sugie, I know the history of both their drinking days in high school. Yes, Sugie may have been driving drunk, but Elena was equally as drunk. They both made the decision to get into that car knowing they were intoxicated. All three of the passengers in that vehicle were past the driving stage but if I remember right Sugie was the only was with a reliable car. Fingers have been pointed for years at Sugie, and it is time to stop and face reality. Carol I question you, if Eleana had the nicer car would she have been the one driving???
I miss both Eleana and Sugie, and my heart still drops as I pass their wreckage area. Both were good people, and great friends. It is time to let them and the situation rest in peace.
Cheeky

Grand Junction, CO

#2 Dec 26, 2008
I remember the wreck, and a couple others during that time, it didn't matter who was driving, it was the fact that they were all killed because of the drinking. I wasn't close to either Elena or Sugie in school as I was a year or two behind them, I do think it is a good thing what Carol and Becky are doing. I myself have lost friends and loved ones to this. One can hope that someone will actually hear what they are saying and take it to heart.

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#3 Dec 26, 2008
Feb 23 1973 a drunk killed my mother, on the Black Cayon Hwy in Phx.AZ, 2:15AM. I thank God every day she only killed herself, and no others, for me to bear the mental portion. Dead is dead, and did it affect the life of a 12yr old who watched her die for 5 years PRIOR with NO HELP, as it was in the 60-70s,, no 1-800-my moms a drunk number to call.. Just me,and I FAILED,, CAUSE SHE IS DEAD. Need anymore reason not to drink besides leaving your family for life....
She saw the drunk who killed her, every day she looked in the mirror,don't make any one live this way ever again,,please.

“Just Us for All”

Since: Sep 08

Rio Rancho, NM

#4 Dec 26, 2008
It's been 25 years since I lost a wife and baby to a drunk driver. I still find it too painful to talk about in public. Carol Kohler, you are doing a good work. Keep it up!

“Lets Play Nice, Kids.”

Since: Sep 08

San Juan County, New Mexico

#5 Dec 26, 2008
I knew Sugie in school, but I did not know the other occupants of the car. As I understand the story, they were headed to Albuquerque because they had scored tickets to a Rock Concert. The atmosphere in the car had to have been festive! I understand that they had been stopped near Cuba for speeding and erratic driving.(DWI Laws were different then) They somehow managed to talk their way out of trouble by changing drivers, and Eleana drove through Cuba. They obviously switched drivers again a little ways down the road.(With today's laws, they would have been arrested in Cuba, and would not have plowed into an oncoming semi truck)

As I understand the story, none of them was "drunk" when the trip started.(This is the "loophole" that needs to be clearly shared with other kids) So to clarify, no one actually "chose to get in a car with a drunk driver." As I understand it, they were partying along the way and were all drinking in the car. The worst part of all of this is that they seemingly had no idea that what they were doing was going to kill them. They were just having a good time. They were a carload of kids on an adventure. This is the point that the sharing of the stories needs to address directly: These kids did not understand that what was happening inside that car would kill 3 friends, although none of them intended to die that day. The intent was to attend a concert and build a great memory.

Sugie was a good person, and was a lot of fun to know. It still tugs as my heartstrings when I drive by the sight of the memorial. I have to say that my knowledge of this accident encouraged me to make better decisions about drinking and driving. It is sad that I had to lose a friend in order to gain that knowledge. I encourage the families to keep talking, as you are likelty to save many young lives in the process.

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#6 Dec 26, 2008
Jodgy O wrote:
It's been 25 years since I lost a wife and baby to a drunk driver. I still find it too painful to talk about in public. Carol Kohler, you are doing a good work. Keep it up!
I agree and understand, sorry for the lose boss,recall hurts.
Sad

United States

#7 Dec 26, 2008
I fortunately have not had anybody I knew killed by a drunk driver and would totally devistated if I did. I definately think what Carole is doing is very good and I do encourage it. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!
Former cop

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Dec 26, 2008
And what about us drunks, nobody ever thinks about us!
RPG1967

Kayenta, AZ

#9 Dec 26, 2008
Every disease discovered is treated with medical attention and Laws. Why are we allowing alcohol to be sold at will at gas stations and grocery stores when we all know that alcohol related accidents/incidents kill? Are we really weak to the Alcohol Industries? There will be more stories told and people losing their lives to alcohol related accidents/incidents. I know there will be NO Response to this comment as we are all guilty as we let these incidents /situations to continue no matter what our positions are. Thank you for reading.

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#10 Dec 26, 2008
Former cop wrote:
And what about us drunks, nobody ever thinks about us!
ya i do.. i don't want you dead any more than an inocent, BUT ONLY if you care...I also think of you from 8-8 on the roads.

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#11 Dec 26, 2008
RPG1967 wrote:
Every disease discovered is treated with medical attention and Laws. Why are we allowing alcohol to be sold at will at gas stations and grocery stores when we all know that alcohol related accidents/incidents kill? Are we really weak to the Alcohol Industries? There will be more stories told and people losing their lives to alcohol related accidents/incidents. I know there will be NO Response to this comment as we are all guilty as we let these incidents /situations to continue no matter what our positions are. Thank you for reading.
In resopnce,, your right. we ALL are guilty, but then again some of us try to the point of insanity to make a difference,some don't, some can't, but one day,, DWI will be concidered a homicide, not manslaughter by excuse. Thank you for you responce, no attitude, no insult. Thank you.
Noneofyourbusine ss

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Dec 27, 2008
A Good Friend wrote:
Being friends with Eleana and Sugie, I know the history of both their drinking days in high school. Yes, Sugie may have been driving drunk, but Elena was equally as drunk. They both made the decision to get into that car knowing they were intoxicated. All three of the passengers in that vehicle were past the driving stage but if I remember right Sugie was the only was with a reliable car. Fingers have been pointed for years at Sugie, and it is time to stop and face reality. Carol I question you, if Eleana had the nicer car would she have been the one driving???
I miss both Eleana and Sugie, and my heart still drops as I pass their wreckage area. Both were good people, and great friends. It is time to let them and the situation rest in peace.
First of all, there were 5 passengers in that car. Only three were killed. Secondly, they say Eleana wasnt driving because she had a suspended license. If I remember correctly, Sugie had the highest BAC of the three who were killed.

This was a tragic event which could have been avoided all together. No one is pointing fingers.
Sick of You

Los Alamos, NM

#13 Dec 27, 2008
Noneofyourbusiness wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, there were 5 passengers in that car. Only three were killed. Secondly, they say Eleana wasnt driving because she had a suspended license. If I remember correctly, Sugie had the highest BAC of the three who were killed.
This was a tragic event which could have been avoided all together. No one is pointing fingers.
It's amazing how you are the only one with any facts about anything. I wish everyone in the world was as big a know-it-all as you CM.
FORGETABOUTIT

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Dec 27, 2008
Sick of You wrote:
<quoted text>
It's amazing how you are the only one with any facts about anything. I wish everyone in the world was as big a know-it-all as you CM.
What's CM? Your initials or noneofyourbussiness?
Cop The All Knowing

Aztec, NM

#15 Dec 27, 2008
noneofyourbusiness seems to be self righteous know it all that slams fellow officers and dumps on friends.

Know that he has access to all the files and records in this case. it is more important to him to show how much he knows rather than be sensitive to those that may have lost loved ones. After all being right is always more important to those that are self centered. You should have the curse of seeing noneofyourbusiness on a daily basis.
Noneofyourbusine ss

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Dec 28, 2008
Cop The All Knowing wrote:
noneofyourbusiness seems to be self righteous know it all that slams fellow officers and dumps on friends.
Know that he has access to all the files and records in this case. it is more important to him to show how much he knows rather than be sensitive to those that may have lost loved ones. After all being right is always more important to those that are self centered. You should have the curse of seeing noneofyourbusiness on a daily basis.
Wow, tough crowd! I guess you read into what I type a whole lot. How in the heck would you think I have access to any files in this case?

Self-centered I am not, although I do enjoy being right (just ask my wife).
Patty

Farmington, NM

#17 Jul 21, 2014
My heart goes out to BOTH Elena and Sugie's parents. I partied pretty hard on a few occasions with Elena, and hung out while sober and she was a tremendously wonderful person. I had a couple classes at San Juan College with Sugie, and she too, was a tremendously wonderful person. They both liked to party it up, I'm sorry if the truth hurts. They were both in the wrong for putting themselves in danger by letting each other get in the vehicle knowing they were both impaired. They were being selfish because they didn't stop to think "hey! I might get killed and my mom is going to suffer more than me!" but that doesnt make me love them any less! But back then we all thought we were invinsable, and we didn't have MADD or the Drivers education statistics information that we have now. Elena and Sugie died as friends and would be so hurt to know someone is playing the blame game down here. so I agree, let them rest.

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