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Celebrating culture: San Juan College hosts Dia de Muertos masquerade

There are 17 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Nov 2, 2013, titled Celebrating culture: San Juan College hosts Dia de Muertos masquerade. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Since then, Pedrosa's mother, Dorothea John, said she has been trying to keep her young daughter's Mexican heritage alive.

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okay

Rio Rancho, NM

#1 Nov 2, 2013
Día de Muertos is a pre-Hispanic tradition in Mexico with roots in the ritualistic practice of beheading enemies and displaying their heads on altars
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Allrighty, a family tradition to knock back the boredom of a lazy Sunday afternoon. Too bad it's still practiced actively by those family oriented drug cartels leaving headless corpses all over the place. No thanks, i'll stick with mythical witches and goblins not beheading trick or treaters on halloween to a culture celebrating 'ritualistic' beheadings.
THanks to

Las Cruces, NM

#2 Nov 2, 2013
US Democrats and rogue Republicans…20+ Million Mexican and Central/Carribian/South American illegal invasion coming to a town near-by to yours.

Then of course in less than 10 years, we can watch Latino/Hispano cultural affairs dominate United States politics starting in the Southwest, California, Texas, and into the West Central States.

Of course the US Political affairs, will drastically change at the local-level, State, and US Federal in electing latino-friendly politicians.

And the Tribal indian peoples will once again GET SWALLOWED, BUT be spit out this Latino expansionism.

But OF COURSE pay no attention to what is coming but instead dwell on the Barack Obama's Party principles.

Did you know Mexico is one of the most racist countries in the New World where their society is built on economic classes, i.e. MONEY, and the more blond-er and blue eyed a Mexican is - the greater their change to SUCCEED in Mexican society than a dark-skinned Mexican?

We never hear about this occurring though.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#3 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Republicans? The Repubs have been the enablers of this "invasion" (as you want to see it). If you hate it, don't excuse your own party.
yeah but

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Nov 2, 2013
x-and-o wrote:
Rogue Republicans? The Repubs have been the enablers of this "invasion" (as you want to see it). If you hate it, don't excuse your own party.
of course, it is ALWAYS some-body else's….faulty young padawan democrat learner….
Baby puncher

Las Vegas, NV

#5 Nov 2, 2013
THanks to wrote:
And the Tribal indian peoples will once again GET SWALLOWED, BUT be spit out this Latino expansionism.
What will "they" do? Slaughter 90% of our people? Force us onto god-forsaken lands called reservations? Their governments will keep their knees on our necks? Force us to abandon our cultures and languages. Oh, sorry, that's already happened.
Precisely my point

Las Cruces, NM

#6 Nov 3, 2013
Baby puncher wrote:
<quoted text>
What will "they" do? Slaughter 90% of our people? Force us onto god-forsaken lands called reservations? Their governments will keep their knees on our necks? Force us to abandon our cultures and languages. Oh, sorry, that's already happened.
What will they (Latino/Hispanic) do differently with american indian tribes-southwest/pacific? Indian tribes are being knowingly being lulled to believing politics will change for tribal peoples. In fact, it will be far worst.

For progressive tribal peoples to associate or identify themselves as indigenious and belonging to the "Americas" with no borders is akin to giving away scant US federal resouces in indian affairs allocations to 20+ illegals.

Death worshipping (Dia de Muertos) is equal to death of US Indian affairs.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#8 Nov 4, 2013
Precisely my point wrote:
<quoted text>
What will they (Latino/Hispanic) do differently with american indian tribes-southwest/pacific? Indian tribes are being knowingly being lulled to believing politics will change for tribal peoples. In fact, it will be far worst.
For progressive tribal peoples to associate or identify themselves as indigenious and belonging to the "Americas" with no borders is akin to giving away scant US federal resouces in indian affairs allocations to 20+ illegals.
Death worshipping (Dia de Muertos) is equal to death of US Indian affairs.
You showed us precisely your point of stupidity.

At least from the native american point of view North America has always had a immigration problem.

I personally have less of a problem with some hard working brown people who want to better their lot in life comming here and contributing. Than a lazy underachieving SJC redneck, who lives off the largess of their parents and the government. All the while pretending they are some kind of patriot.
Eduardo

Durango, Mexico

#9 Nov 4, 2013
Most Hispanics would only mark Native if the census includes among the list of groups they recognize as Native one they identify with, among the 1.4% of Mexican-Americans who claim to be Native Americans most of them are probably members of a U.S. tribe or have a Native American parent and just didn't mark Native simply for being Indigenas/Native Mexicans or Indigenists.

Is quite the opposite: with the U.S. government encouraging Hispanics to claim any race but "other" most of those Hispanics who do claim to be "other" are counted as White for most statistics along with those Hispanics who already claim to be White in the census. Then you have that, for statistical purposes, either half or even over 90%(counting the "Other" ones) of Hispanics are "White" so it is the White culture the one being Hispanicized, not the Amerindian/Native ones like you would like to paint it.

It is true that the Amerindians in the Southwest have always been caught in the middle in the disputes between Mexicans and Anglos, and they still are to this very day, look at the SB1070 in Arizona were the Anglos created laws to discourage illegal immigrants from settling in their state but without creating provisions for the Native Tribes of Arizona/Sonora which have members living on both sides of the border, many ethnicities filed suits: the Asians and Hispanics filed one because they believed they were the most likely to be profiled and the Amerindians filed another to have the right to freedom of movement between their declared tribal lands regardless of which side of the border they were yet the media only presented the suit of the Hispanics claiming that the government "was favoring them over the Natives" even thought they both were complaining over the same law even if it was for different reasons.

I am sure that if the sentiment of the Native Americans against Hispanic immigration was any stronger than that of the average American the media would running to interview them on the subject on every opportunity they had, that would really be their gold opportunity to prove that the European colonization was okay but subsequent migrations weren't.
then lets

United States

#10 Nov 4, 2013
Subutai wrote:
<quoted text>
You showed us precisely your point of stupidity.
At least from the native american point of view North America has always had a immigration problem.
I personally have less of a problem with some hard working brown people who want to better their lot in life comming here and contributing. Than a lazy underachieving SJC redneck, who lives off the largess of their parents and the government. All the while pretending they are some kind of patriot.
the heck with legit affairs and call the BIA what it is going to be the Bureau of Indigenous Affairs. All current reservation alottments will be made available for potentially 20 mil illegals becoming US citizens. San Juan's illegals can now get medical services at either SR, DZ, or Ignacio CO.
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#11 Nov 4, 2013
Did you know Mexico is one of the most racist countries in the New World where their society is built on economic classes, i.e. MONEY, and the more blond-er and blue eyed a Mexican is - the greater their change to SUCCEED in Mexican society than a dark-skinned Mexican?

We never hear about this occurring though.
Sorry for being so blunt: You were almost EXTERMINATED by the anglos and you survivors are the most sad example of destitution and racism until very rencently and still today.

Sorry, but Mexicans have comparatively small participation in that. We have our share of guilt regarding the tribes of the northern desserts, though. But we were not main perpetrators.

Why do you speak so bad of modern Mexicans?

Ethnic Mexicans is a group of people with more than 150 million in North America, and on average, they have nearly 50% of Indian (Indian like you) blood.

You are right that a light skinned Mexican have more chance to succeed in Mexico than the darker types, but it is due to the estupidity of individuals, not for anything written. And many successful Mexicans are dark skinned and full indian. Our greatest national hero, is an Indian.

If you don't like Latinos or Mexicans, OK.

But if you speak bad of my country, I have to clarify things. What will you feel if I began to talk bad about a US indian nation? Wouldn't you believe that I am a a**hole?

You are traditionally the most destitued and abused people in the USA... don't believe that offending others, even if that is popular right now, will improve your lot. Maybe it will make you feel better for a while... but I don't think is good.
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#12 Nov 4, 2013
And I don't think is fair to consider Mexico "the most racist country in the New World.

I could give you names of several countries that are much more racist than us... and SPECIALLY with Amerindians, and some of them are in South America.

----------

There are another examples of racism where I am not shy at pointing fingers.

Have you noted that Black Cubans seems no to exist in Miami, at a political or cultural level within the Cuban exile? Don't they also flee Communism?

I let you as homework to investigate about the fate of the "desapeared Black Cubans".

Regards.

P.S.

To point at Mexico as the worst nation for Amerindians, to my is very very unfair. Just want to remark that, again.
Baby puncher

United States

#13 Nov 5, 2013
Sirius wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry for being so blunt: You were almost EXTERMINATED by the anglos and you survivors are the most sad example of destitution and racism until very rencently and still today.
Sorry, but Mexicans have comparatively small participation in that. We have our share of guilt regarding the tribes of the northern desserts, though. But we were not main perpetrators.
Why do you speak so bad of modern Mexicans?
Ethnic Mexicans is a group of people with more than 150 million in North America, and on average, they have nearly 50% of Indian (Indian like you) blood.
You are right that a light skinned Mexican have more chance to succeed in Mexico than the darker types, but it is due to the estupidity of individuals, not for anything written. And many successful Mexicans are dark skinned and full indian. Our greatest national hero, is an Indian.
If you don't like Latinos or Mexicans, OK.
But if you speak bad of my country, I have to clarify things. What will you feel if I began to talk bad about a US indian nation? Wouldn't you believe that I am a a**hole?
You are traditionally the most destitued and abused people in the USA... don't believe that offending others, even if that is popular right now, will improve your lot. Maybe it will make you feel better for a while... but I don't think is good.
Very well said, my amigo. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico and have never felt discriminated against, called vulgar names, or otherwise abused because of the color of my skin. If I could legitimately work there, I'd move there.
What is needed is borders

Las Cruces, NM

#14 Nov 5, 2013
Sirius wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry for being so blunt: You were almost EXTERMINATED by the anglos and you survivors are the most sad example of destitution and racism until very rencently and still today.
Sorry, but Mexicans have comparatively small participation in that. We have our share of guilt regarding the tribes of the northern desserts, though. But we were not main perpetrators.
Why do you speak so bad of modern Mexicans?
Ethnic Mexicans is a group of people with more than 150 million in North America, and on average, they have nearly 50% of Indian (Indian like you) blood.
You are right that a light skinned Mexican have more chance to succeed in Mexico than the darker types, but it is due to the estupidity of individuals, not for anything written. And many successful Mexicans are dark skinned and full indian. Our greatest national hero, is an Indian.
If you don't like Latinos or Mexicans, OK.
But if you speak bad of my country, I have to clarify things. What will you feel if I began to talk bad about a US indian nation? Wouldn't you believe that I am a a**hole?
You are traditionally the most destitued and abused people in the USA... don't believe that offending others, even if that is popular right now, will improve your lot. Maybe it will make you feel better for a while... but I don't think is good.
and fences. Neighbors make good neighbors with fences. No different than the private lots and walls and gates throughout Mexico. Unfortunate for true United States (beside politicians) as open borders are the policy. THe United States existed and stands as a testament to how great a nation can be come. All one has to do is look 3 generations ago for the people and for Indian Tribes~! Survivors and true indian pioneers existed even before TODAYs examples. Despite relatively few exceptions, most TODAY are on the bandwagon for personal gain and recognition.
Indian tribes are written into the US Constitution and the US Eagle as important for indian tribes is a recognized symbol for US. If tribes are held highlighted even more so than Mexico, how will mexican/latino/hispanic influence be any-different? Why are these ethinics being pushed and forced out of Mexico (due to their skin tone?)
It figures, RACISM is prevalent (not just with Whites), but throughout Mexico, Central, South Americas. This fact and the news reports being promoted by Latino/Hispanic to US news feeds only offers lies, mistruths, "conspire"cies about 'poor' Mexican people.

The fact is 20+ million potential 'US citizens' from south of border will compound a fragile US system already destined to break apart. And the US Indian tribes will be in lock-step with it (why are they fooling themselves in aligning with these 'other indians' not wanted in Mexico).

THe Empire of Rome is only a sad reminder to what outsourcing (land, borders, culture, language) can do to a nation. By taking Rome as roadmap to establishing a Republic, the United States is literally going the route that Rome took.....destined to fall apart.

But fences don't exist for US politicians and Hispanic/Latino Special Interest Groups - just more money.
But of course not

Las Cruces, NM

#15 Nov 5, 2013
Baby puncher wrote:
<quoted text>
Very well said, my amigo. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico and have never felt discriminated against, called vulgar names, or otherwise abused because of the color of my skin. If I could legitimately work there, I'd move there.
you have money and you spend it!

El Gringo:

It depends who saying it( but the spanish used it correctly)
The Spanish used it correctly to distinguish themselves from other white people.It does not mean Blonde person. The spanish used it to refer to White people with simliar complexion like those of southern europeans to distinguish themselves from them.Since they don't run with the spanish but are similar complexion they used the word gringo to notify other spanish decend that this person may look spanish or they may speak spanish well but that they are from from another language or country, derived form the work greek, like they speak some greek language or something strange or wierd or hard to speak, the spanish used the word gringo in meaning that this person is speaking in greek,like when the american use the word greek to describe something they don't understand. Now in this century, the word gringo hasn't been used correctly, Morenos people call anyone gringo that not of dark skin, or a mexican that doesn't speak spanish and there are alot of wrong assuption of the word gringo out there. Gringo was primarily used by the spanish to distinguish thenselves and classifying someone else that looks white but comes from a different country of origin. If A spanish or mexican back in the days where to see a blonde person, then they would just call them guerro(blonde person)or if they see a black person, then they would call him Negro etc, but if they see a white person that looks of spanish decent then they would call him gringo, this word was used to distinguish themselves from from spanish.They are not going to call him Blanco since the word blanco referes to someone of white spanish decent that also has a spanish surname and who's country of origin is of the hispanic coountries, this was a blanco, but a gringo is someone who surname and country of origin was not of spanish decent therefore the spanish would just say, " he's talking greek" meaning some weird language, which they used the word " el gringo"
Eduardo

Durango, Mexico

#16 Nov 5, 2013
But of course not wrote:
<quoted text>
you have money and you spend it!
El Gringo:
It depends who saying it( but the spanish used it correctly)
The Spanish used it correctly to distinguish themselves from other white people.It does not mean Blonde person. The spanish used it to refer to White people with simliar complexion like those of southern europeans to distinguish themselves from them.Since they don't run with the spanish but are similar complexion they used the word gringo to notify other spanish decend that this person may look spanish or they may speak spanish well but that they are from from another language or country, derived form the work greek, like they speak some greek language or something strange or wierd or hard to speak, the spanish used the word gringo in meaning that this person is speaking in greek,like when the american use the word greek to describe something they don't understand. Now in this century, the word gringo hasn't been used correctly, Morenos people call anyone gringo that not of dark skin, or a mexican that doesn't speak spanish and there are alot of wrong assuption of the word gringo out there. Gringo was primarily used by the spanish to distinguish thenselves and classifying someone else that looks white but comes from a different country of origin. If A spanish or mexican back in the days where to see a blonde person, then they would just call them guerro(blonde person)or if they see a black person, then they would call him Negro etc, but if they see a white person that looks of spanish decent then they would call him gringo, this word was used to distinguish themselves from from spanish.They are not going to call him Blanco since the word blanco referes to someone of white spanish decent that also has a spanish surname and who's country of origin is of the hispanic coountries, this was a blanco, but a gringo is someone who surname and country of origin was not of spanish decent therefore the spanish would just say, " he's talking greek" meaning some weird language, which they used the word " el gringo"
Now you are confusing Gringo, Güiri, Pocho, and Güero ...Or maybe your post isn't worded properly.

In Mexico people is usually called Güero when they are lighter skinned than the person using the term, there are also the terms Moreno which was used as an equivalent to how the Americans use the word Brown, and another word called Prieto which means someone who has black or really dark brown skin but is considered politically incorrect these days which is why you see really dark people being called Morenos and then you have the situation where you have to call brown or olive skinned people "Morenos Claros" to avoid confusion when describing someone.

I don't really see what would it have to do with the Amerindians anyways, or how it proves that Mexico is more racist than USA or that we have a race hierarchy since the word only describes someones skin tone and not their race.
Eduardo

Durango, Mexico

#17 Nov 5, 2013
I have also seen the word "Blanco" used here in Mexico but it was in the context of light-skinned hair-colored persons describing a light-skinned black-haired persons: "He is not Güero, he is Blanco".
Eduardo

Durango, Mexico

#18 Nov 5, 2013
What is needed is borders wrote:
<quoted text>
and fences. Neighbors make good neighbors with fences. No different than the private lots and walls and gates throughout Mexico. Unfortunate for true United States (beside politicians) as open borders are the policy. THe United States existed and stands as a testament to how great a nation can be come. All one has to do is look 3 generations ago for the people and for Indian Tribes~! Survivors and true indian pioneers existed even before TODAYs examples. Despite relatively few exceptions, most TODAY are on the bandwagon for personal gain and recognition.
Indian tribes are written into the US Constitution and the US Eagle as important for indian tribes is a recognized symbol for US. If tribes are held highlighted even more so than Mexico, how will mexican/latino/hispanic influence be any-different? Why are these ethinics being pushed and forced out of Mexico (due to their skin tone?)
It figures, RACISM is prevalent (not just with Whites), but throughout Mexico, Central, South Americas. This fact and the news reports being promoted by Latino/Hispanic to US news feeds only offers lies, mistruths, "conspire"cies about 'poor' Mexican people.
The fact is 20+ million potential 'US citizens' from south of border will compound a fragile US system already destined to break apart. And the US Indian tribes will be in lock-step with it (why are they fooling themselves in aligning with these 'other indians' not wanted in Mexico).
THe Empire of Rome is only a sad reminder to what outsourcing (land, borders, culture, language) can do to a nation. By taking Rome as roadmap to establishing a Republic, the United States is literally going the route that Rome took.....destined to fall apart.
But fences don't exist for US politicians and Hispanic/Latino Special Interest Groups - just more money.
The dissonance between "how this dark skinned peoples are pushed out" and the actual demographics based on self-identification:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in...

"Mexicans:
Mestizo 53%
White 7%
Mulatto 2%
Amerindian 15%
Asian 1%
Other 3%
Didn't Know/No Response 20%"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_american...

"Mexican-Americans:
White 52.8%
Other 39.5%
Two or more races 5%
Native American 1.4%
Black 0.9%
Asian/Pacific Islander 0.4%"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_american...

"For certain purposes, respondents who wrote in "Chicano" or "Mexican" (or indeed, almost all Hispanic origin groups) in the "Some other race" category [of the U.S. census] were automatically re-classified into the "White race" group."

If is Mexico the one pushing racialism on the Mexicans why are Mexican-Americans the ones claiming to be Whites in such high numbers? specially when the 20% of the Mexicans in Mexico polled by the Latinobarometro couldn't even be bothered to actually state their race?

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