How do we protect kids in school?

Jan 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Ruidoso News

During a newsroom discussion about guns about a decade ago, a woman piped up: "I don't understand what the big deal is.

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<quoted text>I don't even own a credit card. I only use credit to buy houses and cars. Anything else.....if I don't have the cash I wait 'til I do. I pay cash or we don't do business. Credit is for people who don't want, or aren't intelligent enough, to manage their money The barkeep is perfectly within his rights to refuse service to anyone he wishes just as I'm perfectly within my rights to tell him to pissoff and take my business elsewhere. Try again......
So it would be within the owner of a gun store const. rights to refuse sale of a gun to someone util they pass a test made up by the owner. Isn't that true?
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Squach wrote:
<quoted text>No, you obviously don't see a damn thing. I'm not ignoring issues, I'm POINTING OUT ISSUES that you and your leftist bullshit create for law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong. I'm not running anywhere, I'm right here in your face. Don't like it? Toughshit, it's still a free country and this is a public forum. You control nothing.
So why did you hide and not answer this question?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/farmington-nm...

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factologist wrote:
<quoted text>So it would be within the owner of a gun store const. rights to refuse sale of a gun to someone util they pass a test made up by the owner. Isn't that true?
You are correct, the owner of a business has the right to refuse service. The government DOES NOT. The second amendment was to written to restrict private businessmen, it was written to restrict GOVERNMENT. I strongly suspect that any businessman who demands something that unreasonable as a prerequisite to doing business will be doing very little business at all while his competitors will be doing more than ever. It's called free enterprise. If I don't like the way someone does business, do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?

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<quoted text>So why did you hide and not answer this question?
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/farmington-nm...
Sorry, I don't read everything you post.....I skip over a lot of it. But since you asked...again....The erroneous decision of a judge or a court does not "make something constitutional". It may make it law temporarily but the error will eventually be corrected. Judge Scalia is not infallible, not even close. There are limits on our rights built into the constitution. It's called reciprocation, you're within your rights until you violate the rights of someone else. You know.....like you're trying to violate the rights of all law abiding gun owners.

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Squach wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct, the owner of a business has the right to refuse service. The government DOES NOT. The second amendment was to written to restrict private businessmen, it was written to restrict GOVERNMENT. I strongly suspect that any businessman who demands something that unreasonable as a prerequisite to doing business will be doing very little business at all while his competitors will be doing more than ever. It's called free enterprise. If I don't like the way someone does business, do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?
Typo - <wasn't> written to restrict businessmen
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Can you name those policies?
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<quoted text>Why should any law abiding citizen be required to submit to a background check just because you and your leftist masters can't keep track or control of your pet criminals/psychos? You enable the murder of school children with your liberal policies and then want me to submit to a background check in order to exercise my constitutional rights? Screw you!
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Squach wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct, the owner of a business has the right to refuse service. The government DOES NOT. The second amendment was to written to restrict private businessmen, it was written to restrict GOVERNMENT. I strongly suspect that any businessman who demands something that unreasonable as a prerequisite to doing business will be doing very little business at all while his competitors will be doing more than ever. It's called free enterprise. If I don't like the way someone does business, do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?
Very good. Now let's assume a new company starts up. An enormous retail gun chain owned only by a multi billionaire; lets call it Wal-Arms. Now let's suppose the owner's business model puts him in control of domestic as well as foreign wholesale purchases from all the gun mfgs. such that he buys and sells 90% of all LEGAL guns sold in the US.
Now lets suppose he installs a condition of purchase that requires all potential purchasers to take and pass a background check in order to purchase a gun.
Is this within in his "rights"?
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Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I don't read everything you post.....I skip over a lot of it. But since you asked...again....The erroneous decision of a judge or a court does not "make something constitutional". It may make it law temporarily but the error will eventually be corrected. Judge Scalia is not infallible, not even close. There are limits on our rights built into the constitution. It's called reciprocation, you're within your rights until you violate the rights of someone else. You know.....like you're trying to violate the rights of all law abiding gun owners.
I didn't say it did. Reread my link and try again. Leave Scilia's name out if you want and just assume the common definition of the word infringed changed over a 250 year period. Which definition would apply? The original or the current?

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factologist wrote:
<quoted text>So it would be within the owner of a gun store const. rights to refuse sale of a gun to someone util they pass a test made up by the owner. Isn't that true?
your correct.

Store owner cancels Mark Kelly gun buy

By KEVIN ROBILLARD | 3/26/13 6:19 AM EDT

The owner of a gun store in Tucson, Ariz., has canceled Mark Kelly’s purchase of an AR-15 because the gun control advocate doesn’t plan on keeping the assault weapon.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/mark-ke...

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Squach wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct, the owner of a business has the right to refuse service. The government DOES NOT. The second amendment was to written to restrict private businessmen, it was written to restrict GOVERNMENT. I strongly suspect that any businessman who demands something that unreasonable as a prerequisite to doing business will be doing very little business at all while his competitors will be doing more than ever. It's called free enterprise. If I don't like the way someone does business, do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?
And here is a good example why he refused to sell the Pseudo Liberal Democrat.

Store owner cancels Mark Kelly gun buy

By KEVIN ROBILLARD | 3/26/13 6:19 AM EDT

The owner of a gun store in Tucson, Ariz., has canceled Mark Kelly’s purchase of an AR-15 because the gun control advocate doesn’t plan on keeping the assault weapon.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/mark-ke...
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<quoted text> Just try to FORCE me to show ID for a beer and see what happens.
What would happen?

In what scenario would you be "forced" to show ID?
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Squach wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct, the owner of a business has the right to refuse service. The government DOES NOT. The second amendment was to written to restrict private businessmen, it was written to restrict GOVERNMENT. I strongly suspect that any businessman who demands something that unreasonable as a prerequisite to doing business will be doing very little business at all while his competitors will be doing more than ever. It's called free enterprise. If I don't like the way someone does business, do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?
Very good. Now let's assume a new company starts up. An enormous retail gun chain owned only by a multi billionaire named Sam; lets call it Wal-Arms. Now let's suppose the owner's business model puts him in control of domestic as well as foreign wholesale purchases from all the gun mfgs. such that he buys and sells 90% of all LEGAL guns sold in the US.
Now lets suppose he installs a condition of purchase that requires all potential purchasers to take and pass a background check in order to purchase a gun.According to you, this would be within in "rights" to do. Is this correct?
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<quoted text>Sorry, I don't read everything you post.....I skip over a lot of it. But since you asked...again....The erroneous decision of a judge or a court does not "make something constitutional". It may make it law temporarily but the error will eventually be corrected. Judge Scalia is not infallible, not even close. There are limits on our rights built into the constitution. It's called reciprocation, you're within your rights until you violate the rights of someone else. You know.....like you're trying to violate the rights of all law abiding gun owners.
I didn't say it did. Reread my link and try again. Leave Scilia's name out if you want and just assume the common definition of the word infringed changed over a 250 year period. Which definition would YOU say applied? The original or the current? Not a judge YOU.

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Actually, yes he does.
Doesn't, PaintChips.

And you don't have a right to touch a gun, if you d, I'll turn you into the front desk.

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My question is, why do liberals have to constantly name call during plain old conversation?
Why do you have to cry when someone throws back into your face what you are dishing out?

It makes you look like a real P*.

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<quoted text>Exactly the response one would expect from a scummy POS gutter-snipe like you.
Exactly the kind of response a spooge breath limp wristed fairy like yourself deserves to get, Shug.
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The mother of the Sandy Hook shooter was a gun-toting survivalist who home schooled.
Can't get much more "conservative."
Have you checked out the statistical accomplishments provided by the FBI? According to their statistics...the deaths by guns are a fraction of that when compared to that of deaths by...kicking to death...stabbing...blunt force trauma, vehicular homicide...the one that brings the most interest is the 'kicking to the head'...statistics...check it out....so you think that the most deaths occur because of a firearm? Uhh...wrong. It's the weapon of choice...whatever's handy....Now, as to the premeditated homicidal maniacs....they have no excuse...they deserve the death penalty. Period. Kill innocent Americans? Plan to kill innocent Americans? You die. We will find you..we will prosecute you...you will die. Period.

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<quoted text>Very good. Now let's assume a new company starts up. An enormous retail gun chain owned only by a multi billionaire; lets call it Wal-Arms. Now let's suppose the owner's business model puts him in control of domestic as well as foreign wholesale purchases from all the gun mfgs. such that he buys and sells 90% of all LEGAL guns sold in the US.
Now lets suppose he installs a condition of purchase that requires all potential purchasers to take and pass a background check in order to purchase a gun.
Is this within in his "rights"?
That would be a monopoly and it is ILLEGAL so no he would not be within his rights. You see? there is the reciprocation thing again, you're within your rights until you violate the rights of someone else. Let's assume that all of the other venders of firearms file a class action law suit citing unfair business practices and put Wal Arms out of business. Remember free enterprise?

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Exactly the kind of response a spooge breath limp wristed fairy like yourself deserves to get, Shug.
Nah, you're just a scummy POS gutter-snipe and don't know any other way to communicate. Face it Twinkle Toes......you are what you are and you've established quite clearly that you are a nasty POS. Not my fault........you did to yourself.

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Can you name those policies?
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Liberal policies on sentencing, parole, and dealing with the criminally insane.

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