As a native of Arizona I can personally attest to your exaggeration. Went to Westwood Elementary and graduated from West Phoenix High School. I remember the paddles but nothing so heinous as you describe. What's truly a shame is that when Phoenix and it's suburbs were the fastest growing metro area in the country during the '80s, a whole bunch of lefties moved in, started their "liberal reforms", and the state of AZ has been going downhill ever since. I wouldn't want to live in the Phoenix area anymore (I still have family living there) since it has been invaded by the social derelicts generated by your liberal policies. It was a beautiful place when I left but now it's just another crime infested metropolis. Sheriff Joe does what he can but the liberal judges just keep putting criminals back on the streets. So, try your "right wing horror stories" somewhere else. There's someone here who knows better.Oh, and this was sanctioned by school districts across America until people began to view it as excessive, and districts feared lawsuits. Now, they really are not allowed to put their hands on children.
But this is an aside from the topic. It just highlights the hypocrisy and irony from you righties, though.
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Since: Oct 08
#358 Feb 20, 2013
#359 Feb 20, 2013
Nor should it.(This is not a plan, just common sense).
#360 Feb 20, 2013
Well here's an admission for you...I carry concealed almost everyday...no license, no permit from some suit in an office and no nanny State mandated training or testing...how do you like that..?
You talk about a fictitious "...program to ID gun nuts..." and then in the same breath talk about "Due Process" in the Constitution. Well there is also that pesky 2nd Amendment that protects the individual right to keep and bear arms. Why is it that "frustrated control freaks" can accept one clause or right enumerated in the Constitution but not another...?
I'll support and defend your rights as well as my own...but I guess you don't have the backbone to do the same.
#361 Feb 20, 2013
"Why not try the things that could possibly help. Such as: doing away with high capacity magazines, clips and military type weapons."
That didn't help before...what makes you think it would work now...? Here's one that will help...eliminate all "Gun Free Zones" since we all know they aren't.
#362 Feb 20, 2013
Violent crime, to include crimes with guns, in the United States has been dropping for the past 20 years. Gun accidents have been dropping at a faster rate than vehicle accidents.
Even with increased gun ownership and legally carrying on the streets, gun crime has been falling.
There goes that argument.
#363 Feb 20, 2013
"America is changing, be a part of the change or get out of the way."
ROTFLMAO...really...? Better start with amending the Constitution...other than that...try and move me out of the way.
#364 Feb 20, 2013
I don't CC and if I knew who and where you are, I'd turn your arse in. How do you like that?
Just as you don't care about CC laws, I don't care about the 2nd. Just as you will do anything you can to get around a law you don't like, I will do the same with the 2nd.(If I could, that is).
Carrying a weapon doesn't mean you're "defending rights"- I assume you mean constitutional rights. Nor does it mean you have any "backbone".Besides, look at the number of criminals who are packing- illegally, like you brag about doing- is that the backbone you're talking about? What rights are they defending?
And just for the record, I rely on the military to defend our country's sovereignty and our police and judicial system to defend my individual rights. Not some nut job dressed up like Rambo with an AR slung over his shoulder and a Glock holstered on his hip, waving the American flag and screaming NRA slogans while attending a gun rally.
So if you want to defend rights, go to Chicago and defend those innocent children who live there. Show some of that "backbone" you brag about having; use some of that firepower and take on the gangstas that deny those children there constitutional rights. Go defend their right, I don't need you to defend mine.
#365 Feb 20, 2013
Wow!...You feel better now getting that off your chest...?
Now chew on this you ignorant, "frustrated control freak"...turn my arse in for what...?...I carry legally you nitwit. I'm not "getting around a law I don't like"...I LIKE our law and freedom to carry concealed WITHOUT a permit. YOU DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE YOU LOSE CONTROL!!!
"I don't care about the 2nd."
I know you don't...but as I said, I will defend your right to express your opinion as will mine...in addition to my right to keep and bear arms.
By continueing to exercise our Constitutional rights, we will continue to defend those rights.
"And just for the record, I rely on the military to defend our country's sovereignty and our police and judicial system to defend my individual rights."
Then just say "thank you" to me.
"I don't need you to defend mine."
OOPS...too late...I already did, have and will continue to...you're welcome.
“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”
Since: Dec 07
#366 Feb 20, 2013
#367 Feb 20, 2013
Yeah. congratulations. You suckered me in on that one. I don't know much about AK's gun laws. Frankly, I thought AK was Arkansas. But I don't like it because there are too many nuts like you with a gun under their shirt just praying for an excuse to pull it out and go bang bang. Our police don't like it and neither do I.
Along with those same rights for the bad guys.
Right after you say thanks to me, backbone. Right after you say thanks to me.
No mention of how you're going to continue to defend my rights or of defending the children in Chi-town. They have the most God given of all the rights; the right to LIFE. You disappoint me, backbone. So get your pop gun and don your black cargo shite and get on over there. They need your help, backbone.
Since: Mar 09
#368 Feb 20, 2013
Where did I suggest going house to house? I mean manufacture and selling. As much as I would like to see confiscation of military style weapons, large capacity magazines and clips, exploding and armor piercing bullets, I know that it is not feasible retroactively. I'm thinking of the future.
Since: Mar 09
#369 Feb 20, 2013
Would students be allowed to carry along with faculty? Does that mean no more metal detectors at the doors of many schools in high crime areas? Maybe we could replace the Gun Free Zone signs with "Armed enter at your own risk". Jeeeeezz.
#370 Feb 20, 2013
I didn't sucker you at all. You came fullbore, headstrong, not thinking and showing you own ignorance. Don't blame me for your own faults.
News flash...Just because a person owns a gun they are not a criminal...just because a person carrys a gun in accordance with the law does not make them a criminal...much to your dismay, I'm sure.
"Our police don't like it and neither do I."
So what...? Like I said, you don't have control. You and every other "frustrated control freak" need to get over it. The individual right to keep and bear arms is NOT going away...neither am I or the guns that I own.
"Along with those same rights for the bad guys."
Define "bad guys"...can they legally purchase, own or carry...?
"Right after you say thanks to me, backbone. Right after you say thanks to me."
I will...have you supported and defended the Constitution...?...that would include the 2nd Amendment that protects the individual right to keep and bear arms...?
"No mention of how you're going to continue to defend my rights..."
Doing it right now...supporting your right to voice your opinion...and I'm armed.
"...or of defending the children in Chi-town."
Never said I would...but they do have rights as well. Too bad the State and the City think like you that banning guns would stop murderers. Maybe pass another law...try that...make murder illegal...oh wait, it already is.
"You disappoint me,..."
#371 Feb 20, 2013
Used to be able to carry in your vehicle...or a gun in a gun rack in your back window...some places you could carry into a class room and put in the back of the class. So it would depend on the school.
"Does that mean no more metal detectors at the doors of many schools in high crime areas?"
What is their purpose and would they be necessary anymore...?
"Maybe we could replace the Gun Free Zone signs with "Armed enter at your own risk"."
Oh like that sign prevented Adam Lanza from shooting his way into a LOCKED school...yeah, that worked well. Maybe...just maybe if someone was armed...he couldn't have killed as many people.
Maybe you could put a notation at the bottom of those signs that says "Don't bring a gun in here because you might hurt somebody"...Jeeeeezz
#373 Feb 21, 2013
You are right on, backbone. If I had my way it would be illegal for ordinary citizens to own a gun in working order.
Yes I have. I took my oath and I did my duty. That was then, this is now; I don't support the 2nd.
As I am supporting yours, even tho I disagree with what you say. But I don't support the 2nd.
Sure you did. Reread all your crap. You claimed to defend everyones constitutional rights and carried a weapon to prove it. So if you're the defender of "rights", if you have the backbone you claim to have, then get your arse down there and defend their rights. But I suspect, you don't have the backbone to do that. In fact, I think when push comes to shove, you even with your CCW are backboneless.
You're a real joke, backboneless. A real joke. What do you care about what the City and State are doing or not doing? You claim to be the defender of everyone's rights and the children of Chi-town need your help; not your cutesy dialogue.
#374 Feb 21, 2013
"Sure you did. Reread all your crap. You claimed to defend everyones constitutional rights and carried a weapon to prove it."
Reread your own crap...Defending rights is NOT the same as defending the children. Your comprehension skills are really lacking and all you're doing is further proving how much a real ignorant, "frustrated control freak" you are.
"As I am supporting yours, even tho I disagree with what you say. But I don't support the 2nd."
So you are one of those that has endangered those "children" by supporting gun control that prevents their parents and others from defending themselves. I hope you're real proud of yourself you ignorant, POS, "frustrated control freak".
"You're a real joke..."
Riiiight...you're the joke of the board.
#375 Feb 22, 2013
What ever are you braying about now, bacbone-less. Hers's what I said. Look back at it.
"Show some of that "backbone" you brag about having; use some of that firepower and take on the gangstas that deny those children their constitutional rights. Go defend their right, I don't need you to defend mine."
Learn to read and you may learn from reading.
So, backbone-less if Chi-town has "gun control", why are there so many guns in the hands of the ganstas on the streets of Chicago?
Fact is, backbone-less, if there were no guns to control, there would be no gun violence. IOW, NO GUNS=NO GUN VIOLENCE.LESS GUNS=LESS VIOLENCE.
Since: Jul 08
#376 Feb 22, 2013
Simple and true.(See: all other developed nations on the planet Earth.)
#377 Feb 22, 2013
BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...you ignorant POIS, "frustrated control freak"...here's a quote of what YOU said;
"No mention of how you're going to continue to defend my rights or of defending the children in Chi-town."
I told you that defending ones rights by exercising those rights...is NOT the same as "defending the children". Try learning to read AND comprehend.
"...use some of that firepower and take on the gangstas that deny those children their constitutional rights."
They aren't denying them their righjts...YOU and others like YOU are denying the legal ownership of a gun to those that would defend themselves and their families to include their children. YOU are a killer of children you spineless, ignorant, POS, "frustrated control freak".
"So...if Chi-town has "gun control", why are there so many guns in the hands of the ganstas on the streets of Chicago?"
Thay are called criminals for a reason...GOD you're not just ignorant...now I'll call you stupid. They don't obey the law...DUH!!! So you only succede in removing guns from those that will obey the law...NOT the criminals.
"Fact is...if there were no guns to control, there would be no gun violence. IOW, NO GUNS=NO GUN VIOLENCE.LESS GUNS=LESS VIOLENCE."
Not a fact at all...that's only your fantasy...the rest of us live in the real world and know better.
#378 Feb 22, 2013
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