San Juan County wants public opinion to develop land use

A series of community meetings will be held this month to gauge community opinions of proposed San Juan County land use plans, which could include new zoning regulations. Full Story
Why pay taxes

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Aug 18, 2009
What about the citys ? We need some place to go shoot. All of the shooting ranges are not open to most of us for free.They call out the PD if a gun shot is any place near them.We paid out a lot of tax money to make gun ranges but only a few can use them.We need a place we can ALL go to without over shooting into a home.A place that is safe.Some only need to go out one or two times a years to shoot.
Planning advocate

United States

#2 Aug 18, 2009
As a relative newcomer to San Juan County, I must say that I was shocked at the apparent randomness and shoddy condition of the area, due to the lack of any planning or zoning. Driving through the county evokes a sense of being in a third world country. This is such a beautiful area and has the potential to be an attractive tourist destination. The county has allowed dilapidated mobile homes to sprawl for miles, instead of restricting them to enclosed mobile home parks with strict covenants. Abandoned buildings and salvage yards dominate the landscape. Why does everyone have ten abandoned vehicles in their yard? More to the point, why is this tolerated? Also, the road planning is, well, non-existent. All traffic in Farmington is channeled through one road, causing major traffic problems in a very small town. It is good that the county is finally taking steps to correct this, but many decades too late, the neglect will take generations to correct. However, it is better late than never I suppose.
Totally agree

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Aug 18, 2009
Planning advocate wrote:
As a relative newcomer to San Juan County, I must say that I was shocked at the apparent randomness and shoddy condition of the area, due to the lack of any planning or zoning. Driving through the county evokes a sense of being in a third world country. This is such a beautiful area and has the potential to be an attractive tourist destination. The county has allowed dilapidated mobile homes to sprawl for miles, instead of restricting them to enclosed mobile home parks with strict covenants. Abandoned buildings and salvage yards dominate the landscape. Why does everyone have ten abandoned vehicles in their yard? More to the point, why is this tolerated? Also, the road planning is, well, non-existent. All traffic in Farmington is channeled through one road, causing major traffic problems in a very small town. It is good that the county is finally taking steps to correct this, but many decades too late, the neglect will take generations to correct. However, it is better late than never I suppose.
Well said....
whatever

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Aug 18, 2009
go back to utah, Tree Hugger!
soooooo

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Aug 18, 2009
your take is if I own an acre and have a mobile home that I be forced to move into a trailer park ?. Not likely newcomer !!!
Planning advocate wrote:
As a relative newcomer to San Juan County, I must say that I was shocked at the apparent randomness and shoddy condition of the area, due to the lack of any planning or zoning. Driving through the county evokes a sense of being in a third world country. This is such a beautiful area and has the potential to be an attractive tourist destination. The county has allowed dilapidated mobile homes to sprawl for miles, instead of restricting them to enclosed mobile home parks with strict covenants. Abandoned buildings and salvage yards dominate the landscape. Why does everyone have ten abandoned vehicles in their yard? More to the point, why is this tolerated? Also, the road planning is, well, non-existent. All traffic in Farmington is channeled through one road, causing major traffic problems in a very small town. It is good that the county is finally taking steps to correct this, but many decades too late, the neglect will take generations to correct. However, it is better late than never I suppose.
Planning advocate

United States

#6 Aug 18, 2009
soooooo wrote:
your take is if I own an acre and have a mobile home that I be forced to move into a trailer park ?. Not likely newcomer !!!
<quoted text>
Of course not! This is the United States and nobody will be forcibly moved, I served in the US military to ensure that our rights are protected, including property rights. However, there is no excuse for those who insist on living in filth. There is nothing wrong with living in a mobile home, especially considering the outrageous cost of homes in this area. Although the properties and homes of most people here are well kept, many are not. A few examples are the Homestead, Wild Horse Valley, and Spencerville subdivisions. Take a drive through those areas, that is what the citizens of the world see when they drive through our county enroute to the national parks in our area, is that how you want the United States represented?
totally agree

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Aug 18, 2009
Planning advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course not! This is the United States and nobody will be forcibly moved, I served in the US military to ensure that our rights are protected, including property rights. However, there is no excuse for those who insist on living in filth. There is nothing wrong with living in a mobile home, especially considering the outrageous cost of homes in this area. Although the properties and homes of most people here are well kept, many are not. A few examples are the Homestead, Wild Horse Valley, and Spencerville subdivisions. Take a drive through those areas, that is what the citizens of the world see when they drive through our county enroute to the national parks in our area, is that how you want the United States represented?
If you dislike the area so much then why do you reside here???? Are you doing anything to make a difference or do you just ride your high horse..."I served in the military" Many did and many live in the "filth" because that is all they can afford and are not able to clean or maintain. As you said, the prices here are very inflated and few can afford to live in a nice nieghborhood with strict covenants.

Just kidding...I still agree with you.. Like you said....It is too late and it will take decades to rid the eyesores. Part of the reason for the MANY areas of San Juan County that are what I would call slums is due to the overly inflated housing market. It is nearly impossible to make it on a single income here due to those inflated values. Not only do we have extremely high housing but we also pay higher gas prices..What's the deal??? We pay more to live in an area that has little to offer (places to eat, shopping, entertainment, etc....) but the average income is not more than anyplace else.
poese

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Aug 19, 2009
make some good strip clubs
Paladin

United States

#9 Aug 19, 2009
Government enforced utopia, but who gets to decide exactly what utopia is? Maybe your cookie cutter daydream doesn't agree with my daydream, what then, force me to change just for you?
There are tired words and dead men from America's past describing their fight against loss of private property.
If you don't control it you don't own it.
sheer elitism here

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Aug 19, 2009
I am a retired disabled vet and no way can afford housing so I have a 'trailer' on a lot I own. Nothing like being considered 'trailer trash' and 'slumdweller' to some newcomers that think the entire rural county should look like downtown Chicago. The San Juan County liberal 'elites' are really into themselves. Do the county hick cave dwellers a favor and don't leave your posh covented neighborhoods you are so fond and proud of. Ya might get your feelings hurt by seeing the great unwashed slummers in the county.
totally agree wrote:
<quoted text>If you dislike the area so much then why do you reside here???? Are you doing anything to make a difference or do you just ride your high horse..."I served in the military" Many did and many live in the "filth" because that is all they can afford and are not able to clean or maintain. As you said, the prices here are very inflated and few can afford to live in a nice nieghborhood with strict covenants.
Just kidding...I still agree with you.. Like you said....It is too late and it will take decades to rid the eyesores. Part of the reason for the MANY areas of San Juan County that are what I would call slums is due to the overly inflated housing market. It is nearly impossible to make it on a single income here due to those inflated values. Not only do we have extremely high housing but we also pay higher gas prices..What's the deal??? We pay more to live in an area that has little to offer (places to eat, shopping, entertainment, etc....) but the average income is not more than anyplace else.
History

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Aug 19, 2009
Even if you are poor there is nothing wrong with cleaning up your property. If you can't do it yourself ask for volunteers. There are church and citizen groups that are always helping out. Plus the city has clean up days to dispose of junk. They will even arrange to come get it. So YOU can get off your 'high horse' and clean up your mess. Unless you covet your neighbors' trash? Oh, and stay in your 'covented'(sp) trailer with your nose stuck in the air. What a snob you are.
snob

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Aug 19, 2009
you 'assume', quite wrongly that since I said I live in a 'trailer' that my yard needs cleaning and I have trash all over and junk cars laying around. Now just who is the 'snob'?. You are just another elite snob thinking they are better than others and making generalizations of a populace because they don't live in a tract house like you do.
History wrote:
Even if you are poor there is nothing wrong with cleaning up your property. If you can't do it yourself ask for volunteers. There are church and citizen groups that are always helping out. Plus the city has clean up days to dispose of junk. They will even arrange to come get it. So YOU can get off your 'high horse' and clean up your mess. Unless you covet your neighbors' trash? Oh, and stay in your 'covented'(sp) trailer with your nose stuck in the air. What a snob you are.
Planning advocate

United States

#13 Aug 19, 2009
The point that some here are missing is that it doesn't matter if you live in a mansion, mobile home, gated community, or slum. Take pride in your community and country and clean up your filth. Everyone has property rights that should be protected, but that doesn't include having a miniature landfill in your front yard! It is an eyesore, lowers the value of your neighbors property, and reflects badly on everyone in the community. AND as History stated, the county will clean it up for you! There is absolutely no excuse for the filth.
History

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Aug 20, 2009
"You are just another elite snob thinking they are better than others and making generalizations of a populace because they don't live in a tract house like you do."

Talking about generalizations you began your first post with:"The San Juan County liberal 'elites' are really into themselves. Do the county hick cave dwellers a favor and don't leave your posh covented neighborhoods you are so fond and proud of."

How do you know I don't live in a trailer?

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