City leaders weigh the possibilities of fiber optics

that has always been the problem with Fiber "The last mile "and who pays?

Go ahead Rob Mayes, you lame brain, spend $40,000,000 of taxpayers hard earned money to receive back $150,000 per year; in 267 years your will have recouped taxpayers initial investment.

How much would it cost the taxpayers to pay the SPENDING ADDICT Rob Mayes to leave ?

Mayes Again wrote:

Go ahead Rob Mayes, you lame brain, spend $40,000,000 of taxpayers hard earned money to receive back $150,000 per year; in 267 years your will have recouped taxpayers initial investment.
How much would it cost the taxpayers to pay the SPENDING ADDICT Rob Mayes to leave ?

If you read the article, it states a $40-million investment would generate $5-million in annual revenue; doing nothing but leasing the fiber would generate $150,000 per year. Get your facts in order before you get apoplectic

Ok...... Does this guy Bob Campbell realize what he said (& how right he actually is)?

"...."This is the interstate highway of the 20th century," said assistant city manager Bob Campbell..... "

... WE'RE IN THE 21ST CENTURY ALREADY!!!!!!

Yes it is pretty cool that the back bone is there; the infrastructure is not there (nor the technical expertise in the city to manage/develop it). If this was truly financially viable a private entrepreneur(s) would do this. If the city (i.e. taxpayers) would pay for a bunch of it then even better (for the entrepreneur). Taxpayers should not contribute to what should be a business venture. If it's truly economically viable find a capitalist that wants to do it (that's true business development). That'll show you how truly viable it is.

Fiber is neat. I lived in a Florida city when they introduced something very similar to this in their city/community. In fact fiber was brought to peoples' homes. The technology was great. It was also done 15 years ago!!!

This technology, as Bob Campbell said, is in fact 20th century. The 21st century (where we're at now) is speeding toward wireless technology. Fiber is certainly not the equivalent of a horse and buggy; but at best it's an 8 cylinder car with a 4 barrel carburator.... what's a carburator!!!!

Shish...., look at how good/neat the Bloomfield pool seemed and see how economically viable it is. Government should not be in business.

Adaman wrote:

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If you read the article, it states a $40-million investment would generate $5-million in annual revenue; doing nothing but leasing the fiber would generate $150,000 per year. Get your facts in order before you get apoplectic

I suggest you reread the article before you resort to calling names -'In their opinion,'the best option' is for the city to become a wholesale provider because it ... could expect approximately $150,000 a year in extra revenue.'

As even the mentally deficient can easily see the $5-million is off the table - thank the lord some of us have an elementary degree.

whomovedmybowels wrote:

Ok...... Does this guy Bob Campbell realize what he said (& how right he actually is)?
"...."This is the interstate highway of the 20th century," said assistant city manager Bob Campbell..... "
... WE'RE IN THE 21ST CENTURY ALREADY!!!!!!
Yes it is pretty cool that the back bone is there; the infrastructure is not there (nor the technical expertise in the city to manage/develop it). If this was truly financially viable a private entrepreneur(s) would do this. If the city (i.e. taxpayers) would pay for a bunch of it then even better (for the entrepreneur). Taxpayers should not contribute to what should be a business venture. If it's truly economically viable find a capitalist that wants to do it (that's true business development). That'll show you how truly viable it is.
Fiber is neat. I lived in a Florida city when they introduced something very similar to this in their city/community. In fact fiber was brought to peoples' homes. The technology was great. It was also done 15 years ago!!!
This technology, as Bob Campbell said, is in fact 20th century. The 21st century (where we're at now) is speeding toward wireless technology. Fiber is certainly not the equivalent of a horse and buggy; but at best it's an 8 cylinder car with a 4 barrel carburator.... what's a carburator!!!!
Shish...., look at how good/neat the Bloomfield pool seemed and see how economically viable it is. Government should not be in business.

THAT-A-BOY !!

First I had dial up, then I had Comcast, then Qwest Broadband - I just went 4G with AT&T wireless - and now have the fastest INTERNET service of all.

Suggest Farmington get into the 21st century and go wireless - too bad they wasted the taxpayers money stringing optic cable.

'This is the interstate highway of the '20th century', said assistant city manager Bob Campbell.'

Great, Rob Mayes has brought Farmington - Bob Campbell, one of the 3 City Czars hired to do the Job that Mayes was himself hired to do; yet Campbell, not unlike Obama's air-traffic controllers that wake up after the plane has landed, appears to have slept through the 1st 10 years of the 21st Century.

Should'nt the city worry about the way they run the city first, and then take care of things like your stupid a-- police and fire department.

Here's another perspective (perhaps a little fuzzy economics here):

- city invests $40,000,000 (let's pretend they have it sitting around around Rob or Tony's desk collecting dust)
- the city actually get's a $150,000 profit (per year) that can be attributed to this "investment" (you know the city's publicist is going to put out the best case scenario)
- that's a 0.38% annual rate of return

.... put the $40,000,000 in a savings account. I guarantee that Citizen's Bank will give you 2% on it and the risk is a lot less (well maybe use Wells Fargo instead!)

.. oh yeah, that $40,000,000 is really tax payer money. he taxes I pay you could be paying down my mortgage (let's say that's a 5 or 6% cost) So in fact you're making me pay 5% to get a return of less than 0.5%... GET REAL; let me have my money. I will spend it. Heck I'll probably spend it locally and you'll still get sales tax revenue. The retailers where I spend my money might hire someone. The contractor I pay to build an addition or a deck might hire someone (ok, they might hire an illegal!) and that person might rent a house or buy a home, car or whatever and so on! REAL ECONOMIC GROWTH!)Shish again!!)

Why would the city want to complete with the private sector and take over a business enterprise? Sounds like socialism to me.

City government is there to manage and govern NOT to build a business.

What would be the next step, have a CEO instead of a mayor, a board of directors instead of city reps?

$40,000,000,(enough money to run the whole City bureaucracy for one year) is the price tag these boys want to connect Farmington to their system - so how much of this is kickbacks to Rob Mayes and his 3 City Czars ?

Rey wrote:

Why would the city want to complete with the private sector and take over a business enterprise? Sounds like socialism to me.
City government is there to manage and govern NOT to build a business.
What would be the next step, have a CEO instead of a mayor, a board of directors instead of city reps?

'I hope that the words of Sec. Skandera are true. I hope there is 'Hell to pay' for stealing from the children and tax payers of N.M. I hope that Gov. Martinez is really going to root out fraud and abuse.'

Rey wrote:

Why would the city want to complete with the private sector and take over a business enterprise?

Makes no difference, just look at the City Electric Utility, mentioned in the article.
Declared a $5,700,000 windfall profit in 2010, overcharging the backs of elders and the poor; the City took this blood money and paid City Employees - some say paid them for their votes -

Apache Grad wrote:

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I suggest you reread the article before you resort to calling names -'In their opinion,'the best option' is for the city to become a wholesale provider because it ... could expect approximately $150,000 a year in extra revenue.'
As even the mentally deficient can easily see the $5-million is off the table - thank the lord some of us have an elementary degree.

Shouldn't you capitalize "Lord"? And what element would your degree consist of?

Rey wrote:

Why would the city want to complete with the private sector and take over a business enterprise? Sounds like socialism to me.
City government is there to manage and govern NOT to build a business.
What would be the next step, have a CEO instead of a mayor, a board of directors instead of city reps?

AAAAH! Socialism! Run for the hills, all you morons!

whomovedmybowels wrote:

Ok...... Does this guy Bob Campbell realize what he said (& how right he actually is)?
"...."This is the interstate highway of the 20th century," said assistant city manager Bob Campbell..... "
... WE'RE IN THE 21ST CENTURY ALREADY!!!!!!
Yes it is pretty cool that the back bone is there; the infrastructure is not there (nor the technical expertise in the city to manage/develop it). If this was truly financially viable a private entrepreneur(s) would do this. If the city (i.e. taxpayers) would pay for a bunch of it then even better (for the entrepreneur). Taxpayers should not contribute to what should be a business venture. If it's truly economically viable find a capitalist that wants to do it (that's true business development). That'll show you how truly viable it is.
Fiber is neat. I lived in a Florida city when they introduced something very similar to this in their city/community. In fact fiber was brought to peoples' homes. The technology was great. It was also done 15 years ago!!!
This technology, as Bob Campbell said, is in fact 20th century. The 21st century (where we're at now) is speeding toward wireless technology. Fiber is certainly not the equivalent of a horse and buggy; but at best it's an 8 cylinder car with a 4 barrel carburator.... what's a carburator!!!!
Shish...., look at how good/neat the Bloomfield pool seemed and see how economically viable it is. Government should not be in business.

Look you, read the small print...No Common Sense Allowed in this area. When the Government does it with the people's money...it's wonderful AND free, and will always work like a Swiss watch, and will break even in, oh, 75 years. No sense using tomorrows technology when you can use last century's.
We can hook it up to the Intergalactic Spaceport planned for next week that is going to bring 5 gazillion visitors a day to Farmington for the evening sight seeing tour of the alleys South of Broadway.

PantsOnFire wrote:

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'I hope that the words of Sec. Skandera are true. I hope there is 'Hell to pay' for stealing from the children and tax payers of N.M. I hope that Gov. Martinez is really going to root out fraud and abuse.'

Martinez (a Republican) IS fraud and abuse.

sorry wont appen agin. eye'll trie to a void well gramar end speling two. forgot whom my odd-ience is!

(I particularly like my use of "odd-ience")

BigGov wrote:

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Look you, read the small print...No Common Sense Allowed in this area. When the Government does it with the people's money...it's wonderful AND free, and will always work like a Swiss watch, and will break even in, oh, 75 years. No sense using tomorrows technology when you can use last century's.
We can hook it up to the Intergalactic Spaceport planned for next week that is going to bring 5 gazillion visitors a day to Farmington for the evening sight seeing tour of the alleys South of Broadway.

whomovedmybowels wrote:

sorry wont appen agin. eye'll trie to a void well gramar end speling two. forgot whom my odd-ience is!
(I particularly like my use of "odd-ience")
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Hey you do sound like a friend of mine? haha, peace looking for who moved your bowels....

PS i liked the odd-ience thingy.. haha. woo