Farmington School District rules on eighth-grade sports

Full story: Farmington Daily Times

A new Farmington school district policy regarding eighth-grade students playing high school sports within their attendance area left a handful of local parents and high school athletic staff fuming Thursday evening.
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not-surprised

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Put an end to recruiting by making all students that transfer sit out one full year from all sports. If as a parent you are convinced that the grass is greener somewhere else then move into that attendance area. Recuiting has become so blatant in Farmington that one school openly recruits. It's about time they are trying to clean it up.
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Thats right, not-surprised, punish the student for wanting to go to a better school for whatever the reason is. The student should be the reason for decision making.

Schools like St. Pius and Abq Academy in Albuquerque, openly recruit, with full knowledge of the NMAA, and they have great sport progams because of it. But who really wins at the end of the day?......... The student, who gets a great education, gets to go to great colleges, so why would we deny them that opportunity?

Every student should have the right to attempt to attend the school of their choice without the fear of reprisal
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you would think that if people were going to be quoted in the paper that they would at least be asked for a spelling of the name and know what they actually coach. "Worth" the wrestling coach or "Werth" the softball coach?

the AD's said it was about the NMAA and Stimac said it was about the NMAA. Janel Ryan says its not. Chris Pash is the curriculum guy and is one of the roots of this and has never been quoted. Why? He is taking the fall for Lorett and Stimac? What is the issue? Waivers? or Recruiting? or a school that is underachieving that they are actually hoping that a couple of cheap wins will bail them out of?

FHS wants to force kids to stay in its darkened and outdated classrooms if they play sports instead of going to a newer, higher performing school. Maybe we should look at what they are doing at PV and do it too instead making more rules and policies that we can't possibly keep or enforce. All it will take is a big fat lawsuit and this will go away.
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It is that "poor me" socialist mindset. Rather than looking at how to improve ourselves, we look at how to make everyone else mediocre. This is not going to work, PV will still do what it does. It's funny that PV does well in spite of a central office that bleeds green. I think that says something about the leadership at PV.

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Wow, if only there were this much passion about the ACADEMIC performance of FMS students, maybe we could do our part to improve the national education ranking of New Mexico schools.......NM is almost at the very bottom. I wonder if we've improved our graduation rate, which last I read, was a dismal 48th in the nation.

....and the kicker is, with all this emphasis on sports, NM STILL doesn't contribute significantly to the professional sports arena.

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MelanieThinker wrote:
Wow, if only there were this much passion about the ACADEMIC performance of FMS students, maybe we could do our part to improve the national education ranking of New Mexico schools.......NM is almost at the very bottom. I wonder if we've improved our graduation rate, which last I read, was a dismal 48th in the nation.
....and the kicker is, with all this emphasis on sports, NM STILL doesn't contribute significantly to the professional sports arena.
sorry you were cut from the c-teams in your younger days. you should of practiced more than studying to be a future DT forum expert. We are also at the bottom nationwide in athletics.
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Just let the 8th grader play. They just play a few games or a few minutes. How come FHS and PV don't have 8th grade Cross Country Running Team. I've seen Gallup, Zuni, Windowrock have a 8th grade team. I've seen them at Cross Country Meets in the past. They usually run before the Varsity teams.
I've seen Obese students join Cross Country and loss alot of weight, and continued to jog and run into their adulthood. Back in Shiprock we used to run 6-9 miles a day, for 4 days, and Friday was a easy day, then on Saturday was the meet. I lost alot of weight, which I could not do when I played football.

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yipee wrote:
<quoted text>sorry you were cut from the c-teams in your younger days. you should of practiced more than studying to be a future DT forum expert. We are also at the bottom nationwide in athletics.
duu-uuuuh

The difference is people are passionately concerned about their athletics (everyone's kid is a potential pro, right? LOL!), but there is virtually no outward expression of concern about our dire academic status.

BTW, just so you will know better next time--it is not "should of," it is "should have."
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So Pv has to stop recruiting kids in the 8th grade. What a shame. They claim to be all about the classroom but the Principal looks the other way when it comes to recruiting and cheating!
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MelanieThinker wrote:
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duu-uuuuh
The difference is people are passionately concerned about their athletics (everyone's kid is a potential pro, right? LOL!), but there is virtually no outward expression of concern about our dire academic status.
BTW, just so you will know better next time--it is not "should of," it is "should have."
i did that on purpose to see if you would correct me:) nice. like i said, sorry you were cut from your HS teams, it left a bad taste in your mouth.

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I find myself agreeing with Melanie..which is rare.

Don't let your "hate" of the poster get in the way of the facts.
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MelanieThinker wrote:
Wow, if only there were this much passion about the ACADEMIC performance of FMS students, maybe we could do our part to improve the national education ranking of New Mexico schools.......NM is almost at the very bottom. I wonder if we've improved our graduation rate, which last I read, was a dismal 48th in the nation.
....and the kicker is, with all this emphasis on sports, NM STILL doesn't contribute significantly to the professional sports arena.
Is this the real MT. FMS should have been FHS. Looks a little fishy. I've always noticed your spelling was on the spot. But these students have to make the grade to play or run in whatever sport they participate in. Some of these students go on to college and become leaders. Look at Tommy Roberts played for the NM Lobo Basketball team, now he is a mayor. Look at Obama, played Basketball, now the country is in a mess.
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MelanieThinker wrote:
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duu-uuuuh
The difference is people are passionately concerned about their athletics (everyone's kid is a potential pro, right? LOL!), but there is virtually no outward expression of concern about our dire academic status.
BTW, just so you will know better next time--it is not "should of," it is "should have."
MT, not every kid is a potential pro, however a very good majority of them are potential college athletes from the lowest level of college athletics to the highest. So what does that mean? Well, it means that a kid has the opportunity to receive a college scholarship to receive a free or at the very least a very well discounted education. What does that mean? It means that they can receive a degree by prolonging their athletic career a few years and in turn hopefully find a decent job when they are done to support a family of their own and be a productive member of our society.

Also if you got some data, you would find out that the vast majority of athletes are also your top students. What you don't understand is this whole thing is about academics. As a parent I want my kid to go to the best performing school with the best AP programs and the best teachers. Right now that is PV, however I don't think my kid should be penalized because he plays sports. That is what actually drives him to get good grades, because he knows if he wants a scholarship he not only has to do good on the field, he must first perform in the classroom. I respect your opinion and understand where you are coming from as you are right, too many parents do not care about education, but like I said those with a passion for athletics care about academics far more than you give them credit for. Hope this helps you understand the situation a little better.
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All I can say, is it's about time NMAA is looking into this. Now for them to focus on Kirtland, and Navajo Prep and their blatant recruitment processes. I know firsthand as a parent of a talented basketball player...my kid was recruited by Farmington, Kirtland and Navajo Prep as a Freshmen and sophomore. I told NMAA but nothing done about it. So it's about time!!
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I don't personally know many students at FHS but as for the STUDENT athletes at PV, they are students first. The emphasis IS on education.
As a side note, students who are involved in sports have far less time to spend getting into trouble. I'm not saying that they have squeaky clean records but that being on a team teaches them life skills that cannot always be learned in a school setting.
And no, our area doesn't put out a lot of PROs, but a lot of students do get scholarships for higher EDUCATION and I am extemely proud of those that do! Both acedemic and athletic recipients. It's not about being a pro, they are kids.

ps- wasn't it great that PRO football player Charly Martin (who graduated from PV) came to Farmington and put on a fantastic football camp free of charge to our area youth? My son went this year and last year. Loved it!!
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I for one am EXTREMELY grateful for this move by our district to maintain a good solid balance for the of the entire district. Not for mediocre, but or a fair shake for all. Both schools offer some excellent programs and if parents of my generation would give their district high school a chance, instead of beleiving every rumor that floats by or being swayed by new shiny materials, I think they would find the same. We are so lucky to have two equitable high schools. It's time we celebrate that fact. Moreover, I am now hopeful that the recruiting my kids have faced at Heights middle school will diminish. That kind of pressure on 6th, 7th, and 8th graders and their families by coaches and staff should never be tolerated. We've got enough on our plates already. I sincerely thank our fms administration for going to bat for the betterment of the WHOLE district.

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<quoted text>Is this the real MT. FMS should have been FHS. Looks a little fishy. I've always noticed your spelling was on the spot.
FMS=Farmington Municipal Schools. I said what I meant--not targeting either high school, but Farmington School District.

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Perspective wrote:
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MT, not every kid is a potential pro, however a very good majority of them are potential college athletes from the lowest level of college athletics to the highest. So what does that mean? Well, it means that a kid has the opportunity to receive a college scholarship to receive a free or at the very least a very well discounted education. What does that mean? It means that they can receive a degree by prolonging their athletic career a few years and in turn hopefully find a decent job when they are done to support a family of their own and be a productive member of our society.
Also if you got some data, you would find out that the vast majority of athletes are also your top students. What you don't understand is this whole thing is about academics. As a parent I want my kid to go to the best performing school with the best AP programs and the best teachers. Right now that is PV, however I don't think my kid should be penalized because he plays sports. That is what actually drives him to get good grades, because he knows if he wants a scholarship he not only has to do good on the field, he must first perform in the classroom. I respect your opinion and understand where you are coming from as you are right, too many parents do not care about education, but like I said those with a passion for athletics care about academics far more than you give them credit for. Hope this helps you understand the situation a little better.
Good post, but when parents get as enthusiastic and passionate about their kids' academics, then you might convince me.

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I don't personally know many students at FHS but as for the STUDENT athletes at PV, they are students first. The emphasis IS on education.
As a side note, students who are involved in sports have far less time to spend getting into trouble. I'm not saying that they have squeaky clean records but that being on a team teaches them life skills that cannot always be learned in a school setting.
And no, our area doesn't put out a lot of PROs, but a lot of students do get scholarships for higher EDUCATION and I am extemely proud of those that do! Both acedemic and athletic recipients. It's not about being a pro, they are kids.
ps- wasn't it great that PRO football player Charly Martin (who graduated from PV) came to Farmington and put on a fantastic football camp free of charge to our area youth? My son went this year and last year. Loved it!!
You don't need to defend sports and athletics to me--I am and have always been a big fan.

That's not the point.

I will repeat:

When the public (and that includes parents) become even half as concerned with their school district's academics as they are with their sports programs, maybe I will become convinced. Until then.....not so much.

New Mexico schools are in a very bad shape academically--so much so that parents should be highly concerned, and there should be as much discussion in public forums about it as there is about sports. Not happening.

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I find myself agreeing with Melanie..which is rare.
Don't let your "hate" of the poster get in the way of the facts.
And why would the poster "hate" me? I merely expressed an opinion--as I often do--but the little haters immediately react with whining and crying and insulting remarks because they don't like my opinion and nothing more......exactly what happened with the poster to whom you're referring. That poster reacted personally insultingly for no other reason than that he/she did not like what I said....my opinion.

Yet, I'M the offensive one? Ironic.

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