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Officials investigate Fourth of July shootout

There are 41 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jul 5, 2010, titled Officials investigate Fourth of July shootout. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

The FBI continues to investigate Sunday's fatal shootout on County Road 7007 in Blanco Canyon that left two dead and injured three others.

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Avenge

United States

#1 Jul 6, 2010
These people want something done...but they won't cooperate with the investigation! YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!!
kma

Rio Rancho, NM

#2 Jul 6, 2010
Where is the navajo police ?
Fan Blade

Sheep Springs, NM

#3 Jul 6, 2010
kma wrote:
Where is the navajo police ?
Sitting in the $800,000.00 Winnabego with the A/C on, in the Shiprock Police parking lot. Waiting for the Shiprock fair.
Ahab

Saint Michaels, AZ

#4 Jul 6, 2010
"All we were asked to do is see if there were human remains inside the trailer," San Juan County Fire Marshall Chris Cardin said. None were found. Isn't it the responsibility of the Fire Marshall to investigate the cause of fire and deteremine if it was arson or accidental? they receive federal funds to put out fire and investigate regardless of the structure and jurisdictions.
NeedDtHelp

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Jul 6, 2010
Why not report the GPS Coordinates so one can Google Earth the location.
Comment sense Indian

Tuba City, AZ

#6 Jul 6, 2010
You can bashed,make all kinds of BS against Navajo Police, very simple.....They are under funded,limited positions,etc...while San Juan gov't,(sheriff),Farmington city government, State Police are ALL enjoying you gross receipts taxes, BS, BASHED them. In other words you are aiming at the wrong sources!
Landman

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Jul 6, 2010
'The shootings occurred in an area referred to as the checkerboard area in Blanco Canyon, a mixture of Navajo, private and federal land.'
Wrong - the checkerboard area refers to Navajo Reservation, Fee and Federal Lands. There is no Navajo Reservation Land along or near Co Rd 7007. There is BLM, Fee, and Navajo Alloted (private land belonging to a Navajo family) lands along and near Co Rd 7007.
The DT should follow up this story with a visit to the SJC Assessors office in Aztec. If I am not mistaken, SJC charges taxes on Navajo Alloted Land as they do on Fee (private) Land.
ZenMan

United States

#8 Jul 6, 2010
Criminals are going hi-tech; and they've developed a network to monitor you and the police, they know your routes and routine. To catch a thief, think like a thief - install cameras, notify someone,when you go on vaction ect. We have family feuds that are developing among the youth because of the drug trade,kids carry guns & are menacing,its awful what our children are turning into, we need to close off remote areas, by cutting trenches across roads, and checking on our families in remote areas, the Navajo Scouts used to have a phrase - "Look up, look around, look down," Fire hazards, hazards arr everywhere.
3rd World

Rio Rancho, NM

#9 Jul 6, 2010
Landman wrote:
'The shootings occurred in an area referred to as the checkerboard area in Blanco Canyon, a mixture of Navajo, private and federal land.'
Wrong - the checkerboard area refers to Navajo Reservation, Fee and Federal Lands. There is no Navajo Reservation Land along or near Co Rd 7007. There is BLM, Fee, and Navajo Alloted (private land belonging to a Navajo family) lands along and near Co Rd 7007.
The DT should follow up this story with a visit to the SJC Assessors office in Aztec. If I am not mistaken, SJC charges taxes on Navajo Alloted Land as they do on Fee (private) Land.
Part of Blanco Canyon is tribal land and falls under tribal jurisdiction. Because it is appears to be a murder, the Feds have jurisdiction. Some land out there may be checkerboard but not all of it.
NZD man

Denver, CO

#10 Jul 6, 2010
kma wrote:
Where is the navajo police ?
They're just finding out about this same time we are. One officers little sister read this and told big brother.
Golf Pal

Cedar Crest, NM

#11 Jul 6, 2010
What a tragedy! Family members who carry a grudge and continue to feed fire into the feud just do not think about anyone other than themselves. Don't be selfish, think of family members that can get hurt, and in this case, killed. I thought Navajos belived that when you have a family and children, you do not say hurtful things to others, as it will come back around and hurt the ones you love most. As for this family feud, most likely it did not just start, it probably started with the grandparents of this young man, or even before that. And then carried over into the future generations. Which is another lesson, your children watch and learn from you. My prayers go out to the parents and families, and hopefully something good will come out of this. Maybe this is how the Creator sends his message, in hopes that everyone involved may learn from this.
Ahab

Saint Michaels, AZ

#12 Jul 6, 2010
Golf Pal wrote:
What a tragedy! Family members who carry a grudge and continue to feed fire into the feud just do not think about anyone other than themselves. Don't be selfish, think of family members that can get hurt, and in this case, killed. I thought Navajos belived that when you have a family and children, you do not say hurtful things to others, as it will come back around and hurt the ones you love most. As for this family feud, most likely it did not just start, it probably started with the grandparents of this young man, or even before that. And then carried over into the future generations. Which is another lesson, your children watch and learn from you. My prayers go out to the parents and families, and hopefully something good will come out of this. Maybe this is how the Creator sends his message, in hopes that everyone involved may learn from this.
The subject family members involved in the current disputes and killings have converted to Whiteman's Christianity and look what's happening to them while their Whitemen Christians are backing away from them.
DC Brat

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Jul 6, 2010
There is a lot more drinking now and still escalating. Economic deprivation is the primary factor. Observe Navajos taking out suitcases of beer and cheap gallon/half gallon volka and sweet liquors. That incident with fatalities is in direct result of the drinking & 4th of July holiday is in the mix. ALCOHOL is major cause of Navajo people's death - diabetes related, heart conditions, obesity, and unhealthy lifestyles. "Drink more, die more" is the code of the day.
just me

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Jul 6, 2010
its sad that this happened but, people who live in checker board areas sometimes are forgotten (isolated) and I do agree the Navajo Nation Police Department is under funded... it all goes to the councilman and their families. Hopefully they get to the bottom of this and find out exactly what happened....maybe it did take having a young man die for law enforcement to wake up!!!!usually the case. where are the parents and elders, shouldn't someone be there trying to keep the peace??. land issues a very touchy subject to natives....BUT when you die the land stays and your gone. so maybe we should all learn to get along.....let law enforcement figure out what happened....family is scared to talk...can you imagine how long this has been going on? and how many people been threatened?......i wouldnt want to live like that....its sad.....God bless the families effected hopefully it will encourage people to take the time to talk...violence isnt the answer but it seems easier to do for so many now days.
Rocky

Fort Worth, TX

#15 Jul 6, 2010
Ahab wrote:
"All we were asked to do is see if there were human remains inside the trailer," San Juan County Fire Marshall Chris Cardin said. None were found. Isn't it the responsibility of the Fire Marshall to investigate the cause of fire and deteremine if it was arson or accidental? they receive federal funds to put out fire and investigate regardless of the structure and jurisdictions.
I would think the cause of the fire will be investigated. At the time, it was more important to preserve evidence that could be part of a homocide investigation. Fire investigation could destroy crucial evidence, so a search for bodies was the only part of the fire investigation needed at that point. Once they got a handle on the homocide part of it then they would be allowed to proceed with the cause of fire investigation. All this is just my assumptions, but it makes sense to me.
BB Martinez

El Paso, TX

#16 Jul 6, 2010
Comment sense Indian wrote:
You can bashed,make all kinds of BS against Navajo Police, very simple.....They are under funded,limited positions,etc...while San Juan gov't,(sheriff),Farmington city government, State Police are ALL enjoying you gross receipts taxes, BS, BASHED them. In other words you are aiming at the wrong sources!
Yeah, but the Navajo Nation has the money ($300,000) to fund lawsuits for the Clint John family against the City of Farmington!! I always believed that the whole ordeal was a waste!! How many extra officers could have be put on patrol with that amount?!!
No Way

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Jul 6, 2010
sounds like blanco is going back to the way it was 30 years ago.
Krystal Shendo

United States

#18 Jul 6, 2010
Ahab wrote:
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The subject family members involved in the current disputes and killings have converted to Whiteman's Christianity and look what's happening to them while their Whitemen Christians are backing away from them.
I am so sick of hearing white man this white man that, mexican this mexican that, we all bleed the same blood and to say something of this extent is not only rediculous but ignorant. I am a Strong "CHRISTIAN" Native American woman and I still hold very dear to me my native traditions. Let me ask you this, if your so in the Navajo way, what are you doing to better your community? Are you out encouraging and uplifting our youth and trying to talk to them about all the violence and drug and alcohol abuse out there that is killing our people? And I am not just talking about talking to your nieces and nephews and family I am talking about everyone. ONe thing I do know and that is that there are so many of us "CHRISTIANS" WHO ARE NATIVE AND NAVAJO THAT ARE. WE ARE CONTINUALLY GOING OUT INTO THESE RURAL PARTS AND CHECKING IN ON OUR ELDERS AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE FOOD AND WATER AND PROPER MEDICAL ATTENTION. AND WE ARE ALSO FEEDING THEM GOD'S WORD WHICH BRINGS LIFE NOT DEATH. Unfortunately, there is also a devil in this world and if ur without God then he's really after you. My grandfather who was a very well respected medicine man always told us that we all pray to the same God, and that's the Lord Jesus Christ. My cousin was at the wrong place at the wrong time and was not even in any altercations, but when this family continually keeps coming onto my uncles property threatening him and his kids nobody does nothing, until they kill my cousin. We should all be praying for the families like we have been doing. And even in ur traditional ways have you been praying too?
2bad 2 sad

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Jul 6, 2010
It sounds like from the story that there were a few guns short , for everbody to have one ,what a shame . Less scum ,better life for everyone else.
SMILLEY

Durango, CO

#20 Jul 6, 2010
Ok you all want help out there but you don't want t talk to police. Now how can the officers help you when you don't want to help yourselves. Again I ask what kind of help do you want?

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