Mom fights for law against 'maternal profiling'

[TheLioness]

hatesallentown wrote:

You made the choice to have children now you pay the price so I say again Booo Hooo for you ! Stats dont lie ! When you have to leave the office because school is letting out early all the other employees who dont have kids are left to pick up the slack. When you dont come to work because that little snot nosed brat of yous is sick , the other employees are left to pick up the slack. Now to all of you mothers Quit your bitching , It was your choice !!!!

You must have really hated your mother. I hope you are NOT married and that you will NEVER be married. I hope you are also sterile. What a brave man you are to make these comments here, online, and not in public to real people.

Parenting is a two way street. Women cannot conceive without men (unless it's done in-vitro). How dare you sit so smugly behind your protective computer monitor and criticize someone's choice to be a parent.

Obviously you don't have a life and have some major anger management issues. Don't be surprised if you live a lonely, miserable life. Glad you aren't a part of MY life! Loser.

[TheLioness]

comment wrote:

Easy way out go to public assistance and get some help and stay home until you child is old enough. Let the single people and those who already have older kids to work and support you. the best thing is collect welfare for a while. If company they donot want to deal with single moms well let there taxes pay for you. can stay at home at take of you childrens. therefore when you childrens are old enough go get a job

Obviously you don't and never have lived in Allentown or any other metropolis in this country. There is an overabundance of people, women and men, of childbearing age, doing just that, not working and living very well off of taxpayers like me.

Oh wait, your little piece of advice sounds exactly like someone who is living that way! Admit it, you are collecting welfare too from the way it sounds.

[TheLioness]

RonMania wrote:

Gee , the world is not level or equal - what a revelation. Women in general take more time off from their work - That's a fact! Women use any lame excuse to get off of work - That's a fact! Get over it & be happy with what you have & stop whining!!!

So do MEN

And that's a fact!!!

[scchristi]

Tess wrote:

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Best post yet

I agree...great post!

[Esley]

Pepper wrote:

Employers hire people to WORK. That is the whole point. They have goals that they and their companies have to reach. They have a bottom line. Your children and your family are NOT their concern, nor should they be. And if you can't do your part and WORK when you are scheduled to, that's YOUR problem. You have no right to be foisting your responsibilities on somebody else so you can go pick up Junior at soccer practice. Think ahead. Make alternative arrangements. You CAN be a responsible parent AND a reliable employee. It just takes a little more brainpower than your using now.

POD - Best post of all.

[str8six]

I am a married childfree professional woman. My husband and me together make a hefty annual income and work our butts off for it. I have worked the last 12 Christmas', Thanksgivings, New Years and several other non-major holidays (Easter etc.).
Every year, my co-workers put several pieces of paper in a basket, with some bearing my name and a particular holiday. Whoever draws that precious piece of paper is the lucky recipient of that day off. The kicker is, I don't mind. I get double pay, and the winner must donate one of their vacation days to me.
To them, it's worth it - they get that day off with their family, and I make great money, invest it towards a thriving retirement account, AND acquire an extra day of vacation!
As far as parents who don't come in on time, leave early and the like - I think that is completely unethical and extremely unfair. It is THEIR child, everyone can have an occasional emergency - and I do mean occasional, but I would never tolerate being abused and expected to constantly cover for them.
It is a choice, one that they made. One should only have children if that is what they truly want, not because they're worried about being cared for when they are older, or carrying on human existence or a last name. Nor should they expect their peers, family members, government or society to support them. Take responsibility for your decisions, do your homework before having children. Consequently, it is this research that has opened the eyes of many a woman and man to the realities of having children, thus their decisions to fore-go parenthood.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having children, provided you have the means by which to support them, and do not place the burden of child-rearing upon others.

[WeElectedABunchO fIdiots]

Unfortunately, Personal responsibility and living within your means are two concepts that seem to be difficult for some people to grasp.

[blazing_apathy]

I find it highly offensive that Peppard equates discrimination against mothers with discrimination against all women. I am not and have no intention of ever being a mother, but I am sitll a woman. Peppard states her fear that her granddaughter will be discriminated agaisnt because "she has ovaries", which may or may not be true, but isn't what Peppard is fighting. She's fighting discrimination against parents, specifically mothers. This unspoken assumption that all woman are or want to be mothers is highly offenseive and oppressive. Feminism has enough to fight without boneheads like this woman perpetuating the idea that woman are walking uteruses first, and everything else, including employees second.

Parenthood is a choice. Choice implies that you have pick one of two or more options and let the others go. She chose parenthood and needs to accept that choice closes other doors for her.

[BeenHereLongEnou gh]

WOOHOO wrote:
If you kept your behinds in the house like a good woman you wouldnt have to worry. Stop b@tching so much and maybe you wouldnt be single. Try careing more about your kids and husband and being a homemaker than your go-nowhere middle-managment career and maybe the divorce rate wouldnt be so high

You sir are not the brightest bulb in the socket are you?? It is a fact that the "convential roles" no longer apply to todays society, in big part because of men who decided they didn't want to be "fathers" and left the resposibility to the women. Women in turn took on the responsibility of being both the bread earner and parent. So "keeping our behinds in the house" doesn't work when you have to feed and shelter a child.

[MeeMee]

blazing_apathy wrote:

I find it highly offensive that Peppard equates discrimination against mothers with discrimination against all women. I am not and have no intention of ever being a mother, but I am sitll a woman. Peppard states her fear that her granddaughter will be discriminated agaisnt because "she has ovaries", which may or may not be true, but isn't what Peppard is fighting. She's fighting discrimination against parents, specifically mothers. This unspoken assumption that all woman are or want to be mothers is highly offenseive and oppressive. Feminism has enough to fight without boneheads like this woman perpetuating the idea that woman are walking uteruses first, and everything else, including employees second.
Parenthood is a choice. Choice implies that you have pick one of two or more options and let the others go. She chose parenthood and needs to accept that choice closes other doors for her.

Unfortunately, if you read the posts that others have left on this forum, you are being discriminated against because you are a woman, whether you like it or not. As you can see from some posters (ie. Silver Surfer) if you are in what he considers "the child bearing years" you are automatically out of the running wherever he works.

It's an issue for all women, whether you want to be a mom or not. It's also an issue for men too, as it is a lesson about the danger of pre-judging and blind assumptions.

[8motor8]

Claire wrote:

Sorry, in my opinion, parents with young kids are very high maintenance employees.

Tell that to my TWO employers where I've missed exactly one day in the last five years because of my two young children. As someone else mentioned, there is a good possibility that a parent may have a good back-up/emergency plan. You can't just assume that young children=frequent callouts.

[WeElectedABunchO fIdiots]

8motor8 wrote:

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Tell that to my TWO employers where I've missed exactly one day in the last five years because of my two young children. As someone else mentioned, there is a good possibility that a parent may have a good back-up/emergency plan. You can't just assume that young children=frequent callouts.

As someone who hires a lot of clerical positions, you are the exception, not the rule.
We now are seeing men with young children abusing time-off policies. Mostly because the wife has a better job.

[Sarah 75]

Tina wrote:

But it is so true that mothers take too many days off. Us people without children get sick of watching them have to run every time they get a phone call! I have no sympathy. If you can't find a reliable sitter, then make a choice...family or career!!!!!

I am a mom of three, and I have not missed a single day of work in four years. No, scratch that. I missed two days when I was in a car accident.
No sympathy? You must be a joy to work with. I sure hope you're not a doctor or nurse. Not everyone could possibly be as perfect as you appear to be.

[Sarah 75]

str8six wrote:

I am a married childfree professional woman. My husband and me together make a hefty annual income and work our butts off for it. I have worked the last 12 Christmas', Thanksgivings, New Years and several other non-major holidays (Easter etc.).
Every year, my co-workers put several pieces of paper in a basket, with some bearing my name and a particular holiday. Whoever draws that precious piece of paper is the lucky recipient of that day off. The kicker is, I don't mind. I get double pay, and the winner must donate one of their vacation days to me.
To them, it's worth it - they get that day off with their family, and I make great money, invest it towards a thriving retirement account, AND acquire an extra day of vacation!
As far as parents who don't come in on time, leave early and the like - I think that is completely unethical and extremely unfair. It is THEIR child, everyone can have an occasional emergency - and I do mean occasional, but I would never tolerate being abused and expected to constantly cover for them.
It is a choice, one that they made. One should only have children if that is what they truly want, not because they're worried about being cared for when they are older, or carrying on human existence or a last name. Nor should they expect their peers, family members, government or society to support them. Take responsibility for your decisions, do your homework before having children. Consequently, it is this research that has opened the eyes of many a woman and man to the realities of having children, thus their decisions to fore-go parenthood.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having children, provided you have the means by which to support them, and do not place the burden of child-rearing upon others.

This is one of the best posts I've ever read. You are extremely articulate, smart, and an excellent planner. Your employer is lucky to have you!

[Sarah 75]

hatesallentown wrote:

Why is it when a man gets a vasectomy he needs his wife to sign off on it but when a woman wants an abortion she does not need her husbands signature ? Women , You want you cake and eat it too. Thats why most women are fat !

When my husband had his vasectomy, I didn't have to sign off on it. It was his medical procedure, not mine. Do you even know what you're talking about, or do you just make stuff up as you go?