Brasstown Pharmacy, Blairsville GA- What a RIPOFF!

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Background- There is currently a nationwide shortage of approximately 175 different prescription drugs here in the USA (do a search on “prescription drug shortage” to see the many reasons why). This has affected me personally in that I take the generic, NOT timed released (much cheaper), 30mg tablets of Adderall up to 3x daily. Since this is an amphetamine, it is HIGHLY restricted in terms of its dispensation- only 1 monthly prescription can be written at a time… no refills. This means that I must physically submit the “piece of paper” to a pharmacy each month to maintain an adequate supply.

Shortage Affect on Me- I normally buy my prescription each month from Walmart’s pharmacy because they offer me discount opportunities for not having health insurance (nor Medicare, Medicaid or any other programs to help me with cost). Their price has been about $40/month for 90 of the generic tablets. Another locally owned pharmacy, Hayesville, had the same drug for about $48/month about 9 months ago… which was also a pretty good price, but they are 20 miles away from me. I submitted my prescription to Walmart on 22Aug11 and they DID tell me it was backordered and that it was in short supply… but since I had another 10 days on hand, we decided to give it a week to see if the drug was received. They told me early on the morning of Friday, 02Sept that a shipment was due in that afternoon, but they received only the 15mg generic tablets and not the 30mg as prescribed. My doctor was absolutely NOT reachable (holiday weekend), so the prescription could not be changed to prescribe twice the number at double the dose. As of that date, they indicated that they had over 2,000 tablets of “my” size on backorder!

Efforts to Obtain- I called Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Ingles, Bi-Lo, CVS, Walmart in other nearby cities and the Hayesville pharmacy mentioned above… NOBODY had what I needed due to the production shortage. Next on the phonebook list was Blairsville Professional Pharmacy (BrPh hereafter) and, thankfully, they DID have it. It became evident to me WHY they had a supply of it when my mother went to pick it up for me… it was $92.69! Mom and I both brought to their attention that NO OTHER PHARMACY that we called charged that much money- not even CLOSE, and that we considered their price to be gouging, or otherwise taking advantage of the drug shortage. They would not come down in price… even knowing that I had no insurance and that I don’t make a lot of money. I had no choice but to pay… a person cannot “function” without their daily dose of this medicine, especially given that I have been taking it for over 10 years.

Conclusion- To “encourage” BrPh to give me a price more in line with nearly every other pharmacy in a 20 mile radius, I told them I’d report my story of their “out of line” pricing on business ratings websites and local forums if they wouldn’t help me- they didn’t care. So here it is… I guess this is why many smaller, local pharmacies are being forced out of business- they depend on “the insured” who don’t care so much about what their drugs cost, and BrPh couldn’t care less about being a “good citizen” to their "non-insured" local customers.

Mike

PS I own and operate a small business myself… I give my customers the best possible value at the lowest possible price. I APPRECIATE my customers, especially given their circumstances in this down economy!
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WindScents Mike wrote:
Background- There is currently a nationwide shortage of approximately 175 different prescription drugs here in the USA (do a search on “prescription drug shortage” to see the many reasons why). This has affected me personally in that I take the generic, NOT timed released (much cheaper), 30mg tablets of Adderall up to 3x daily. Since this is an amphetamine, it is HIGHLY restricted in terms of its dispensation- only 1 monthly prescription can be written at a time… no refills. This means that I must physically submit the “piece of paper” to a pharmacy each month to maintain an adequate supply.
Shortage Affect on Me- I normally buy my prescription each month from Walmart’s pharmacy because they offer me discount opportunities for not having health insurance (nor Medicare, Medicaid or any other programs to help me with cost). Their price has been about $40/month for 90 of the generic tablets. Another locally owned pharmacy, Hayesville, had the same drug for about $48/month about 9 months ago… which was also a pretty good price, but they are 20 miles away from me. I submitted my prescription to Walmart on 22Aug11 and they DID tell me it was backordered and that it was in short supply… but since I had another 10 days on hand, we decided to give it a week to see if the drug was received. They told me early on the morning of Friday, 02Sept that a shipment was due in that afternoon, but they received only the 15mg generic tablets and not the 30mg as prescribed. My doctor was absolutely NOT reachable (holiday weekend), so the prescription could not be changed to prescribe twice the number at double the dose. As of that date, they indicated that they had over 2,000 tablets of “my” size on backorder!
Efforts to Obtain- I called Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Ingles, Bi-Lo, CVS, Walmart in other nearby cities and the Hayesville pharmacy mentioned above… NOBODY had what I needed due to the production shortage. Next on the phonebook list was Blairsville Professional Pharmacy (BrPh hereafter) and, thankfully, they DID have it. It became evident to me WHY they had a supply of it when my mother went to pick it up for me… it was $92.69! Mom and I both brought to their attention that NO OTHER PHARMACY that we called charged that much money- not even CLOSE, and that we considered their price to be gouging, or otherwise taking advantage of the drug shortage. They would not come down in price… even knowing that I had no insurance and that I don’t make a lot of money. I had no choice but to pay… a person cannot “function” without their daily dose of this medicine, especially given that I have been taking it for over 10 years.
Conclusion- To “encourage” BrPh to give me a price more in line with nearly every other pharmacy in a 20 mile radius, I told them I’d report my story of their “out of line” pricing on business ratings websites and local forums if they wouldn’t help me- they didn’t care. So here it is… I guess this is why many smaller, local pharmacies are being forced out of business- they depend on “the insured” who don’t care so much about what their drugs cost, and BrPh couldn’t care less about being a “good citizen” to their "non-insured" local customers.
Mike
PS I own and operate a small business myself… I give my customers the best possible value at the lowest possible price. I APPRECIATE my customers, especially given their circumstances in this down economy!
In the same boat , and I feel for you . I will try to never use that store again .
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Will not use that store again .
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I truly feel for your situation. However I do not understand why you expect a business to go the extra mile for you when you are loyal to Wal-Mart.
WindScents Mike wrote:
Background- There is currently a nationwide shortage of approximately 175 different prescription drugs here in the USA (do a search on “prescription drug shortage” to see the many reasons why). This has affected me personally in that I take the generic, NOT timed released (much cheaper), 30mg tablets of Adderall up to 3x daily. Since this is an amphetamine, it is HIGHLY restricted in terms of its dispensation- only 1 monthly prescription can be written at a time… no refills. This means that I must physically submit the “piece of paper” to a pharmacy each month to maintain an adequate supply.
Shortage Affect on Me- I normally buy my prescription each month from Walmart’s pharmacy because they offer me discount opportunities for not having health insurance (nor Medicare, Medicaid or any other programs to help me with cost). Their price has been about $40/month for 90 of the generic tablets. Another locally owned pharmacy, Hayesville, had the same drug for about $48/month about 9 months ago… which was also a pretty good price, but they are 20 miles away from me. I submitted my prescription to Walmart on 22Aug11 and they DID tell me it was backordered and that it was in short supply… but since I had another 10 days on hand, we decided to give it a week to see if the drug was received. They told me early on the morning of Friday, 02Sept that a shipment was due in that afternoon, but they received only the 15mg generic tablets and not the 30mg as prescribed. My doctor was absolutely NOT reachable (holiday weekend), so the prescription could not be changed to prescribe twice the number at double the dose. As of that date, they indicated that they had over 2,000 tablets of “my” size on backorder!
Efforts to Obtain- I called Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Ingles, Bi-Lo, CVS, Walmart in other nearby cities and the Hayesville pharmacy mentioned above… NOBODY had what I needed due to the production shortage. Next on the phonebook list was Blairsville Professional Pharmacy (BrPh hereafter) and, thankfully, they DID have it. It became evident to me WHY they had a supply of it when my mother went to pick it up for me… it was $92.69! Mom and I both brought to their attention that NO OTHER PHARMACY that we called charged that much money- not even CLOSE, and that we considered their price to be gouging, or otherwise taking advantage of the drug shortage. They would not come down in price… even knowing that I had no insurance and that I don’t make a lot of money. I had no choice but to pay… a person cannot “function” without their daily dose of this medicine, especially given that I have been taking it for over 10 years.
Conclusion- To “encourage” BrPh to give me a price more in line with nearly every other pharmacy in a 20 mile radius, I told them I’d report my story of their “out of line” pricing on business ratings websites and local forums if they wouldn’t help me- they didn’t care. So here it is… I guess this is why many smaller, local pharmacies are being forced out of business- they depend on “the insured” who don’t care so much about what their drugs cost, and BrPh couldn’t care less about being a “good citizen” to their "non-insured" local customers.
Mike
PS I own and operate a small business myself… I give my customers the best possible value at the lowest possible price. I APPRECIATE my customers, especially given their circumstances in this down economy!
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I work for a mail-order pharmacy and I checked our price. It is $146.63 plus shipping for only 90 tablets!

So even the "rip-off" pharmacy has a better price than we do. There are many items I can get cheaper for our customers, but when I can't, I don't hold it against them for going elsewhere.

What you are not considering is that pharmacies make very little profit from the cost of drugs. The wholesale prices are set by the supplier, not the pharmacy.

Most likely, BRP isn't able to get the same price break as the national pharmacies, at least on Adderall.

Anyway, the real problem lies with Washington D.C. They have created overly restrictive rules about legitimate controlled substances, to the point that often patients have to jump through hoops just to get the meds they need.

Doctors are under ridiculous scrutiny. A doctor who has a patient with chronic uncontrolled pain hesitates to write a prescription for the correct amount because it might trigger an investigation.

Meanwhile, the patients suffer.

Washington has created the rules that you can only get a one-month supply of Adderall at a time. This takes too much money out of your pocket. It may mean that you have to pay for more doctors visits and you can't buy the med in greater quantities which would give you a cost savings per pill.

I would direct my anger and actions towards Washington before I would direct it at a local pharmacy.

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In the know wrote:
I work for a mail-order pharmacy and I checked our price. It is $146.63 plus shipping for only 90 tablets!
So even the "rip-off" pharmacy has a better price than we do. There are many items I can get cheaper for our customers, but when I can't, I don't hold it against them for going elsewhere.
What you are not considering is that pharmacies make very little profit from the cost of drugs. The wholesale prices are set by the supplier, not the pharmacy.
Most likely, BRP isn't able to get the same price break as the national pharmacies, at least on Adderall.
Anyway, the real problem lies with Washington D.C. They have created overly restrictive rules about legitimate controlled substances, to the point that often patients have to jump through hoops just to get the meds they need.
Doctors are under ridiculous scrutiny. A doctor who has a patient with chronic uncontrolled pain hesitates to write a prescription for the correct amount because it might trigger an investigation.
Meanwhile, the patients suffer.
Washington has created the rules that you can only get a one-month supply of Adderall at a time. This takes too much money out of your pocket. It may mean that you have to pay for more doctors visits and you can't buy the med in greater quantities which would give you a cost savings per pill.
I would direct my anger and actions towards Washington before I would direct it at a local pharmacy.
Very helpful. Thank You.
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You are welcome. Glad the info helps.

We know of pharmacies that have given up on controlled substances.

Most pharmacies only get a small set fee for filling prescriptions, no matter how expensive the medicine is. Whenever they fill a prescription for a controlled substance, they have to fill out extra government paperwork which takes a lot of time, and it exposes them to extra scrutiny.

Some of them have decided they don't make enough money to make it worth their while to bother with controlled substances.
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they are not a rip off thats the price i paid 170.00 last week so dont feel bad. cvs and riteaid are even more and you would think since they are a bigger company they would be able to give you the best price. Brasstown is not trying to rip you off or take advantage of the shortage that has always been there price. the ma and pa stores are usually a lot cheaper. be prepared the shortage is bad and since its controlled a lot of pharmacys out side of where you live will not fill it, they assume if you are trying to fill away from your town your a drug addict. the whole system sucks

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At the risk of sounding like an unvarnished capitalist.....they didn't take you to raise. Be glad you got what meds you needed. Your threats and tantrum sounds more like an extortion attempt rather than a quest for help.
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At the risk of sounding like an unvarnished capitalist.....they didn't take you to raise. Be glad you got what meds you needed. Your threats and tantrum sounds more like an extortion attempt rather than a quest for help.
Never fear, I would never consider a fellow socialist a capitalist.
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WindScents Mike wrote:
Background- There is currently a nationwide shortage of approximately 175 different prescription drugs here in the USA (do a search on “prescription drug shortage” to see the many reasons why). This has affected me personally in that I take the generic, NOT timed released (much cheaper), 30mg tablets of Adderall up to 3x daily. Since this is an amphetamine, it is HIGHLY restricted in terms of its dispensation- only 1 monthly prescription can be written at a time… no refills. This means that I must physically submit the “piece of paper” to a pharmacy each month to maintain an adequate supply.
Shortage Affect on Me- I normally buy my prescription each month from Walmart’s pharmacy because they offer me discount opportunities for not having health insurance (nor Medicare, Medicaid or any other programs to help me with cost). Their price has been about $40/month for 90 of the generic tablets. Another locally owned pharmacy, Hayesville, had the same drug for about $48/month about 9 months ago… which was also a pretty good price, but they are 20 miles away from me. I submitted my prescription to Walmart on 22Aug11 and they DID tell me it was backordered and that it was in short supply… but since I had another 10 days on hand, we decided to give it a week to see if the drug was received. They told me early on the morning of Friday, 02Sept that a shipment was due in that afternoon, but they received only the 15mg generic tablets and not the 30mg as prescribed. My doctor was absolutely NOT reachable (holiday weekend), so the prescription could not be changed to prescribe twice the number at double the dose. As of that date, they indicated that they had over 2,000 tablets of “my” size on backorder!
Efforts to Obtain- I called Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Ingles, Bi-Lo, CVS, Walmart in other nearby cities and the Hayesville pharmacy mentioned above… NOBODY had what I needed due to the production shortage. Next on the phonebook list was Blairsville Professional Pharmacy (BrPh hereafter) and, thankfully, they DID have it. It became evident to me WHY they had a supply of it when my mother went to pick it up for me… it was $92.69! Mom and I both brought to their attention that NO OTHER PHARMACY that we called charged that much money- not even CLOSE, and that we considered their price to be gouging, or otherwise taking advantage of the drug shortage. They would not come down in price… even knowing that I had no insurance and that I don’t make a lot of money. I had no choice but to pay… a person cannot “function” without their daily dose of this medicine, especially given that I have been taking it for over 10 years.
Conclusion- To “encourage” BrPh to give me a price more in line with nearly every other pharmacy in a 20 mile radius, I told them I’d report my story of their “out of line” pricing on business ratings websites and local forums if they wouldn’t help me- they didn’t care. So here it is… I guess this is why many smaller, local pharmacies are being forced out of business- they depend on “the insured” who don’t care so much about what their drugs cost, and BrPh couldn’t care less about being a “good citizen” to their "non-insured" local customers.
Mike
PS I own and operate a small business myself… I give my customers the best possible value at the lowest possible price. I APPRECIATE my customers, especially given their circumstances in this down economy!
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Washington has created the rules that you can only get a one-month supply of Adderall at a time.
I think the Q and A's from the DEA website don't agree with the above statement.

Q. Is there a limit on the number of schedule II dosage units a practitioner can prescribe to a patient?

A. There is no federal limit as to the amount of controlled substances a practitioner can legitimately prescribe. However, if a registered practitioner issues multiple schedule II prescriptions, he /she is limited to the combined effect of allowing a patient to receive, over time, up to a 90-day supply of a particular schedule II controlled substance.

Q. Is there a limit on the number of separate prescriptions per schedule II controlled substance that may be issued for the 90-day supply?

A. The rule does not stipulate how many separate prescriptions per schedule II controlled substance may be issued for the 90-day supply. It is up to the practitioner to determine how many separate prescriptions to be filled sequentially are needed to provide adequate medical care. For example, a practitioner may issue three 30-day schedule II prescriptions to cover a 90-day supply or he/she may issue nine prescriptions for the same schedule II controlled substance, each for a ten-day supply, having the combined effect of a 90-day supply.

Q. How is the issuance of multiple schedule II prescriptions different than issuing a refill of a schedule II prescription?

A. The issuance of refills for a schedule II controlled substance is prohibited by law. The use of multiple prescriptions for the dispensing of schedule II controlled substances, under the conditions set forth in the Final Rule, ensures that the prescriptions are treated as separate dispensing documents, not refills of an original prescription. Each separate prescription must be written for a legitimate medical purpose by a practitioner acting in the usual course of professional practice. Each separate prescription must contain written instructions indicating the earliest date on which a pharmacy may fill each prescription.

Q. Is post-dating of multiple prescriptions allowed?

A. No. Federal regulations have always required that all prescriptions for controlled substances "be dated as of, and signed on, the day when issued." 21 CFR 1306.05(a).
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A doctor can write a script for more than 90 days by dating the script with the date that doctor saw the patient and noting on the script that only a 30-day supply can be filled and noting that the next 30-day can not be filled before such and such date, etc.
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little bit more wrote:
A doctor can write a script for more than 90 days by dating the script with the date that doctor saw the patient and noting on the script that only a 30-day supply can be filled and noting that the next 30-day can not be filled before such and such date, etc.
thanks for the info but were talking about the suplier, they have quite making the drug
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Brasstown Pharmacy has always been very very helpful to me and although I feel your pain in an economic crisis I don't think I would hold the pharmacy accountable. Times are tough now and we are all feeling the crunch. They have gone the extra mile to help me in the past and I feel certain if it were in their power to do so for you they would have but they have their costs as well. You might as well buckle up because things are just going to get worse as far as medical costs unless our country wakes up quickly and changes things on election day!
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Brasstown Pharmacy has always been very very helpful to me and although I feel your pain in an economic crisis I don't think I would hold the pharmacy accountable. Times are tough now and we are all feeling the crunch. They have gone the extra mile to help me in the past and I feel certain if it were in their power to do so for you they would have but they have their costs as well. You might as well buckle up because things are just going to get worse as far as medical costs unless our country wakes up quickly and changes things on election day!
I Agree, things are only going to get worse and it seems like the ones of us barely keeping above water are the ones that are suffering the most. I pray to God something changes soon.
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WindScents Mike wrote:
Background- There is currently a nationwide shortage of approximately 175 different prescription drugs here in the USA (do a search on “prescription drug shortage” to see the many reasons why). This has affected me personally in that I take the generic, NOT timed released (much cheaper), 30mg tablets of Adderall up to 3x daily. Since this is an amphetamine, it is HIGHLY restricted in terms of its dispensation- only 1 monthly prescription can be written at a time… no refills. This means that I must physically submit the “piece of paper” to a pharmacy each month to maintain an adequate supply.
Shortage Affect on Me- I normally buy my prescription each month from Walmart’s pharmacy because they offer me discount opportunities for not having health insurance (nor Medicare, Medicaid or any other programs to help me with cost). Their price has been about $40/month for 90 of the generic tablets. Another locally owned pharmacy, Hayesville, had the same drug for about $48/month about 9 months ago… which was also a pretty good price, but they are 20 miles away from me. I submitted my prescription to Walmart on 22Aug11 and they DID tell me it was backordered and that it was in short supply… but since I had another 10 days on hand, we decided to give it a week to see if the drug was received. They told me early on the morning of Friday, 02Sept that a shipment was due in that afternoon, but they received only the 15mg generic tablets and not the 30mg as prescribed. My doctor was absolutely NOT reachable (holiday weekend), so the prescription could not be changed to prescribe twice the number at double the dose. As of that date, they indicated that they had over 2,000 tablets of “my” size on backorder!
Efforts to Obtain- I called Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Ingles, Bi-Lo, CVS, Walmart in other nearby cities and the Hayesville pharmacy mentioned above… NOBODY had what I needed due to the production shortage. Next on the phonebook list was Blairsville Professional Pharmacy (BrPh hereafter) and, thankfully, they DID have it. It became evident to me WHY they had a supply of it when my mother went to pick it up for me… it was $92.69! Mom and I both brought to their attention that NO OTHER PHARMACY that we called charged that much money- not even CLOSE, and that we considered their price to be gouging, or otherwise taking advantage of the drug shortage. They would not come down in price… even knowing that I had no insurance and that I don’t make a lot of money. I had no choice but to pay… a person cannot “function” without their daily dose of this medicine, especially given that I have been taking it for over 10 years.
Conclusion- To “encourage” BrPh to give me a price more in line with nearly every other pharmacy in a 20 mile radius, I told them I’d report my story of their “out of line” pricing on business ratings websites and local forums if they wouldn’t help me- they didn’t care. So here it is… I guess this is why many smaller, local pharmacies are being forced out of business- they depend on “the insured” who don’t care so much about what their drugs cost, and BrPh couldn’t care less about being a “good citizen” to their "non-insured" local customers.
Mike
PS I own and operate a small business myself… I give my customers the best possible value at the lowest possible price. I APPRECIATE my customers, especially given their circumstances in this down economy!
Adderall addiction hotline 1 888 858 5709 might help you more than bitching about your habit costs. just saiding
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I think the Q and A's from the DEA website don't agree with the above statement.

Q. Is there a limit on the number of schedule II dosage units a practitioner can prescribe to a patient?

A. There is no federal limit as to the amount of controlled substances a practitioner can legitimately prescribe. However, if a registered practitioner issues multiple schedule II prescriptions, he /she is limited to the combined effect of allowing a patient to receive, over time, up to a 90-day supply of a particular schedule II controlled substance.
I was responding to the original post where he said he could only get a one-month supply.

Yes, legally he can get a three-month supply with zero refills.

The main point is that the government sets up overly restrictive laws to discourage addicts. Unfortunately, the result is that real patients get punished.

Since there are no refills allowed on Schedule IIs, usually the patient has to pay for a lot of extra doctor visits.

Also, every 3 months, the patient has to get an appointment with a doctor who may have a full schedule, and they have to get it in time to make sure they don't run out of their meds.

If they use a mail-order pharmacy to save money, these restrictions create even more complications because they must mail the prescription and it adds about 10 days onto the process.

I have talked to too many panicked patients not to see the problems this causes. We are so crazy about the ineffective war on drugs that we have lost compassion for real patients.

I have also talked to patients who suffer from horrible incurable pain and all this adds to their hardships.

And I have heard first hand from doctors about being investigated. They are often afraid to give patients the amounts of meds they need because of the government being over-zealous.

It's a sad situation. I've had patients who cried out of frustration.
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<quoted text> Adderall addiction hotline 1 888 858 5709 might help you more than bitching about your habit costs. just saiding
People like you are part of the problem.
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People like you are part of the problem.
yes you are so right its a terrible cycle.and being in a small town sometimes the pharmacys dont have the meds in stock which leaves the patient with out the meds they need. my son had adhd, he is in the third grade and reading at a 6th grade level whick would not be possible with out his meds. so the people that think just because its a controlled substance your a drug addict need to get a grip

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