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Getitstraight

Brunswick, GA

#22 Jun 27, 2013
first stoner wrote:
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right, but he had one before he ran for President. You can google it. He was a heavy Jim Beam drinker.
Yes. I knew that.
U R NUTS

Stow, OH

#23 Jul 4, 2013
This may be somewhat our of place but it is worthy of attention, and doesn't call for an independent thread.

http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/discretion...

It’s truly unbelievable what is happening in our Nation today as we sit in amazement and watch as many violate every reasonable perception of sanity, good judgment and a basic expected lucidity regarding a fundamental righteous intent within those we entrust to enforce our laws.

Unfortunately, we are witnessing more often than not many that are unworthy of such trust, and we find that while indeed claiming to be acting under color of law, they are betraying citizens Nationwide. And thus we the American people succumb to increasingly unreasonable and bold attacks against all reason and respect for those rights we were granted, and guaranteed under our declaration of Independence, and the Constitution we so proudly just celebrated.

I find more distain for those who would abuse their authority, be it against man or animal. As I read the following I felt compelled to pass it along. To me things are out of control. These are just two small examples, that is, except for those who are/were forever affected by them.

Government plain clothed agents in Virginia “assuming” a young lady had purchased alcohol illegally recently assaulted the 20 year old with “guns blazing” as she exited a local supermarket. In fear she jumped in her vehicle, locked it and a panicked friend in the vehicle screamed to speed away and call 911. She did, and “grazed” a couple of the plain clothed agents (attackers) in doing so. It’s reported uniformed officers intercepted her. She had purchased cookie dough, ice crème, and a “box of bottled water. She was charged for “grazing” the Virginia agents (that is attackers). Didn’t matter that those agents had acted imprudently, w/o sufficient probable cause, and most unprofessional in terrorizing the girls leaving them to believe they were in immediate danger, in which case it appears any reasonable person would have reacted in similar fashion. Obviously punitive actions are warranted against the Virginia Agency involved.

http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/discretion...

Nevertheless, the next example, I think may even be more horrible, in that, police officers from a LA metro-area unit shot, and killed, a man’s dog. Of course they were arresting him for ... well he was recording them on his cell phone.

You see he was walking his dog, on a leash, saw some police and cars at a fair distance away and began to use his cell phone to record them. They saw him, approached from a distance; he had time to put his dog in his vehicle. Then he walked to them turned his back to them, with hands behind his back and they cuffed him, the dog was barking from the car, as one officer put his hand to the man’s head the dog came out through the window barking, 3 officers were upon the man, one shot the dog 4 times. His charges I believe were interfering.

It’s truly mind boggling that this is what passes for a professional police force in this Land of the Free.
U R NUTS

Stow, OH

#24 Jul 4, 2013
that should be "somewhat out of place"
freeze

Dahlonega, GA

#25 Jul 5, 2013
U R NUTS wrote:
Government plain clothed agents in Virginia “assuming” a young lady had purchased alcohol illegally recently assaulted the 20 year old with “guns blazing” as she exited a local supermarket. In fear she jumped in her vehicle, locked it and a panicked friend in the vehicle screamed to speed away and call 911. She did, and “grazed” a couple of the plain clothed agents (attackers) in doing so. It’s reported uniformed officers intercepted her. She had purchased cookie dough, ice crème, and a “box of bottled water. She was charged for “grazing” the Virginia agents (that is attackers). Didn’t matter that those agents had acted imprudently, w/o sufficient probable cause, and most unprofessional in terrorizing the girls leaving them to believe they were in immediate danger, in which case it appears any reasonable person would have reacted in similar fashion. Obviously punitive actions are warranted against the Virginia Agency involved.
She's lucky she was not in Georgia, or she would have been shot dead:


Tuesday, Dec. 1, 2009
Grand jury to decide charges in police shooting of a Toccoa minister

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A north Georgia prosecutor said Tuesday he would let a grand jury decide if there will be criminal charges brought against undercover drug officers involved in the fatal shooting of a Baptist minister outside a Toccoa convenience store last summer.

Brian Rickman -- district attorney for the Mountain Judicial Circuit, which includes Stephens, Rabun and Habersham counties -- said in an interview with AJC.com that he also offered to remove himself from the case and he invited a former DA and a sitting prosecutor to review the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s findings and to sit in on all judicial proceedings.

“The more eyes, the better," Rickman told AJC.com .

“I want to make sure it’s as transparent” and as “fair” as possible, Rickman said.

Around 2:30 p.m. on Sept. 1, Ayers dropped off a woman on a Toccoa street and then drove to a nearby Shell station to use the ATM inside the convenience store.

Ayers, who was a pastor at Shoal Creek Baptist Church, was not the target of a drug investigation but three members of a northeast Georgia tri-county drug task force wanted to talk to him all the same. They did not recognize the 29-year-old minister, but the woman who was in his car moments earlier had twice bought drugs from task force members.

But when the agents pulled up, blocking Ayers’ car, the seemingly frightened minister tried to drive away.

Stephens County Sheriff Randy Shirley said at the time that Ayers backed his car into one agent and then a second one fired on Ayers because the minister maneuvered his car toward the officer in a "threatening manner."

Witnesses they didn’t know the officers were law enforcement until they shouted that they were police.

Ayers crashed into a utility pole down the street, and he died later that day after surgery.

Rickman said he got the GBI report about three weeks ago and the agency’s findings would not be made public as long as the case was pending.
U R NUTS

Stow, OH

#26 Jul 5, 2013
freeze wrote:
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She's lucky she was not in Georgia, or she would have been shot dead:
Tuesday, Dec. 1, 2009
Grand jury to decide charges in police shooting of a Toccoa minister
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A north Georgia prosecutor said Tuesday he would let a grand jury decide if there will be criminal charges brought against undercover drug officers involved in the fatal shooting of a Baptist minister outside a Toccoa convenience store last summer.
Brian Rickman -- district attorney for the Mountain Judicial Circuit, which includes Stephens, Rabun and Habersham counties -- said in an interview with AJC.com that he also offered to remove himself from the case and he invited a former DA and a sitting prosecutor to review the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s findings and to sit in on all judicial proceedings.
“The more eyes, the better," Rickman told AJC.com .
“I want to make sure it’s as transparent” and as “fair” as possible, Rickman said.
Around 2:30 p.m. on Sept. 1, Ayers dropped off a woman on a Toccoa street and then drove to a nearby Shell station to use the ATM inside the convenience store.
Ayers, who was a pastor at Shoal Creek Baptist Church, was not the target of a drug investigation but three members of a northeast Georgia tri-county drug task force wanted to talk to him all the same. They did not recognize the 29-year-old minister, but the woman who was in his car moments earlier had twice bought drugs from task force members.
But when the agents pulled up, blocking Ayers’ car, the seemingly frightened minister tried to drive away.
Stephens County Sheriff Randy Shirley said at the time that Ayers backed his car into one agent and then a second one fired on Ayers because the minister maneuvered his car toward the officer in a "threatening manner."
Witnesses they didn’t know the officers were law enforcement until they shouted that they were police.
Ayers crashed into a utility pole down the street, and he died later that day after surgery.
Rickman said he got the GBI report about three weeks ago and the agency’s findings would not be made public as long as the case was pending.
Thanks for your contribution in showing just how out of control the every increasing police state is becoming. Sad how innocent people's lives are forever changed. And it appears more effort is expended toward the cover-ups of improper and unacceptable actions of those supposedly charged with the duties of protecting and serving the citizens of our Nation, than to weeding out those who would abuse their authority.

Below is another example of an ever increasing police state, similar in nature that must stop.

http://www.wrdw.com/home/headlines/Filming-in...
U R NUTS

Stow, OH

#27 Jul 5, 2013
For those who may have a concern and have been keeping up with this growing travesty.

Fear Spreads Over ‘Militarization’ of Police in US

Friday, July 5, 2013

http://patriotupdate.com/2013/07/fear-spreads...
crazy

Doniphan, MO

#28 Jul 5, 2013
This is really no different than Ann Pickett, one of our assistant DA's failing o yield right of way to a guy on a motorcycle and killing him.. No different at all.. She is still employed and we the citizens are paying her.. She is prosecuting persons that have or may have committed a lot less serious crime.. she walked free with a 145.00 fine..

You would not nor would I.. manslaughter???

Todays tyranny
unequal justice

Dawsonville, GA

#29 Jul 6, 2013
crazy wrote:
This is really no different than Ann Pickett, one of our assistant DA's failing o yield right of way to a guy on a motorcycle and killing him.. No different at all.. She is still employed and we the citizens are paying her.. She is prosecuting persons that have or may have committed a lot less serious crime.. she walked free with a 145.00 fine..
You would not nor would I.. manslaughter???
Todays tyranny
Does seema bit lopsided. I do wonder if it was me or anyone else here that wasn't an important person, if we would still be rotting in jail with a homicide charge.

http://www.thetoccoarecord.com/articles/2012/...
U R NUTS

Stow, OH

#30 Jul 6, 2013
Well, to me, if you are not paying attention to what you are doing while driving, there could possibly be some "mitigating circumstances" particularly if you failed to yield the right-of-way resulting in someone's death.

So, who investigated, and who made the determination that there were NO "mitigating circumstances?"

As the 'defendant' in this case was an officer of a court/judicial system, and a determination was rendered to make only minor misdemeanor charges, it certainly doesn't pass the smell test, and would lead a reasonable person to believe that something is rotten in Denmark.

Sympathies' are certainly in order for the family of the deceased.

As I have attempted to point out in some posting on this thread, WE, the American People, MUST awaken to the increasingly unchallenged travesties of a growing police state.

We must demand disclosure, answerability, and liability from those hiding behind the color of law.

And when atrocities from the insignificant to the most horrific occur we must insist that those responsible are held in contempt, and receive appropriate punitive judgments appropriate to the ramifications of their indefensible actions.
U R NUTS

Jefferson, GA

#31 Jul 7, 2013
NYC cases show crooked cops' abuse of FBI database

http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-cases-show-crooked-...

Associated Press
TOM HAYS 2 hours ago Society Federal Bureau of Investigation New York


NEW YORK (AP)— It's billed by the FBI as "the lifeline of law enforcement" — a federal database used to catch criminals, recover stolen property and even identify terrorism suspects.

But authorities say Edwin Vargas logged onto the restricted system and ran names for reasons that had nothing to do with his duties as a New York Police Department detective...

The allegation against Vargas is one of a batch of corruption cases in recent years against NYPD officers accused of abusing the FBI-operated National Crime Information Center database to cyber snoop on co-workers, tip off drug dealers, stage robberies and — most notoriously — scheme to abduct and eat women.

FILE - This undated file photo of former New York City police Officer Gilbert Valle with his baby daughter, was submitted into evidence by the defense in the trial of Valle, who was convicted in March in a bizarre plot to kidnap, cook and cannibalize women.

Prosecutors alleged that Valle abused the FBI-operated National Crime Information Center database to help compile dossiers on women he could possibly kidnap.

It is not the first time a crooked officer has misused the database for cyber snooping and other offenses.(AP Photo/Provided by Attorney Julia L. Gatto, File)
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Just another example of the seriousness of this spreading and increasingly disturbing threat.
boast

Doniphan, MO

#32 Jul 7, 2013
Ive also been watching as the PEOPLE are getting trampled on by this corrupt bunch.

There is no justice in this unjust circuit. The only way to change it is to have judges that can and will not show favoritism toward state employees, DA's, law enforcement etc.

Until that day comes it will remain an UNJUST
freeze

Dahlonega, GA

#33 Jul 7, 2013
law enforcement attracts a certain type of person. The really scary thing.....they're drawn from a pool of people just like us.
U R NUTS

Jefferson, GA

#34 Jul 7, 2013
Another interesting example

Do you think the driver was being disrespectful of civil authority or simply exercising his 4th Amendment rights?

July 7, 2013 at 10:00 am

Driver Bullied & Searched Without Consent At DUI Checkpoint

http://conservativevideos.com/2013/07/dui-che...
U R NUTS

Jefferson, GA

#35 Jul 7, 2013
Just a moment to make things clear. I served in law enforcement for over a decade.

For as many "bad apples" as are being encouraged to abuse their authority under the auspices of an obvious transition to an illegal and dangerous police state, there are still as many or better good, honest, and respectable officers that we need to support, as well as enlist to support us in our efforts to resist abuse and tyranny.

Needless to say, the jury is still out with regards to our newly elected Sheriff.

Nevertheless, I have witnessed a renewed trust and confidence by those in our community, and a general consensus that the Sheriff's Department has significantly improved from the concerns we all expressed in the past.

Thanks to Sheriff Mack and his Deputies. May you continue to garner our trust, and show a professionalism that makes us proud.
U R NUTS

Jefferson, GA

#36 Jul 7, 2013
Didn't really make things that clear. I left law enforcement over two decades ago. My service wasn't here at my home. Should that make any difference.
freeze

Dahlonega, GA

#37 Jul 7, 2013
I have a friend/officer that worked with Sheriff Mack at GSP. Quote..."he's the best, and goes by the book".
winnie the pooh

Covington, GA

#38 Jul 8, 2013
Funny, when people put who cares and your being nosey , those are the ones who don't want you to see their records!!!Some people may want to know this stuff before getting involved with a convict or maybe renting property that may be destroyed. It's good to know BEFORE you get burnt!
Tiger too

Acworth, GA

#39 Jul 8, 2013
winnie the pooh wrote:
Funny, when people put who cares and your being nosey , those are the ones who don't want you to see their records!!!Some people may want to know this stuff before getting involved with a convict or maybe renting property that may be destroyed. It's good to know BEFORE you get burnt!
I can think of one miserable soul who wished he would have done a background check before he bit the bullet. Poor old dumbass........ironic enough.....he's the one in hells fire now....lol:)

“From hell and back”

Since: Nov 11

Satan is overrated

#40 Jul 8, 2013
notsurprised wrote:
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Wonder if Rodney Moose will lose his job? Manager with a DUI? Not good.
Keep stirring that pot dumbass. Has anyone knocked on your door lately?
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#41 Jul 9, 2013
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