Since: Oct 11

Wildwood, FL

#61 Jan 3, 2013
Youse jist mad since tham Gaytors got sent home with their tails tucked between thar legs. Han on top of that thay lost to Louisville rotfl rotfl. I bet our high school team could probly whip tham too.
blairsville devil wrote:
That's good post OH MY.Maybe a few believers will accept something you wrote ,rather than me just saying that it is all fiction.I think the facts are available,it's just the people (mostly in the south) can't or don't want to know the truth, consequently that has affected their status relative to the other parts of the country.The writers of the bibles have been successful in fooling the people the world over.For that they must be recognized as the most successful con artists of all time.If something is to good to be true ,it isn't.I am opposed to the cheating of the gullible by the liars.For god so loved the world ,that he killed nearly all living creatures ,to include women and children.
Floridian

Orlando, FL

#62 Jan 3, 2013
Slowpoks Boy wrote:
Youse jist mad since tham Gaytors got sent home with their tails tucked between thar legs. Han on top of that thay lost to Louisville rotfl rotfl. I bet our high school team could probly whip tham too.<quoted text>
You should be changing your daddy's diaper instead of posting on here.

Since: Oct 11

Wildwood, FL

#63 Jan 3, 2013
I see yore mad too. rotflmao.
Floridian wrote:
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You should be changing your daddy's diaper instead of posting on here.
Dig Deep

Dahlonega, GA

#64 Jan 3, 2013
House of Prayer, Susie and Judy one is helping them steel the county blind and the other one did. just did not get caught, I guess it was cash, no paper trail
Chaos

Hooks, TX

#65 Jan 3, 2013
This should be titled Looking for a Crutch.
Hill Will

Commerce, GA

#66 Jan 3, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Unfortunately, the Bible is a borrowed work constructed from a number of sources and designed for the Jewish community after its return from Babylonian exile. As history it is incapable of representing historical facts more than a few hundred years prior to Babylonian captivity. The prehistory present in the Old Testament is a Hebrew re-interpretation of existing mythology that sets the Hebrew as a chosen people and provides justification for their invasion and expulsion of the Cannanites.
The Fall upends existing creation myths that were present for thousands of years and is particular to only the Hebrew culture. The idea of a Savior is a New Testament invention, the Law governed Hebrew life, and for those works that were written after the return from exile there is a marked Zoroasterian influence.
But hey, this is America and you can believe what you want, even if it does ignore and contradict physical and scientific evidence and research.
Science is a methodology, a systematic, empirically derived knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. As such, it is a marvelous tool for mankind to use in the physical & material world (but not in the spiritual realm).

Science is sometimes used unwisely by some atheists in a vain attempt to discredit the archaeological, historical, & anecdotal evidence of a god. I believe in science and God. Rather than rejecting God or science, based on science, I love the mystery of God and The Universe.

I'm not sure how treating others with unconditional love and acceptance ignores and contradicts physical and scientific evidence and research. Please explain.
Hill Will

Commerce, GA

#67 Jan 3, 2013
blairsville devil wrote:
That's good post OH MY.Maybe a few believers will accept something you wrote ,rather than me just saying that it is all fiction.I think the facts are available,it's just the people (mostly in the south) can't or don't want to know the truth, consequently that has affected their status relative to the other parts of the country.The writers of the bibles have been successful in fooling the people the world over.For that they must be recognized as the most successful con artists of all time.If something is to good to be true ,it isn't.I am opposed to the cheating of the gullible by the liars.For god so loved the world ,that he killed nearly all living creatures ,to include women and children.
What if god so loved the world that he told us there would be a great flood? A few believed the warning and somehow survived.

Science tells us that the earth started as a hot molten mass where water wasn't present. Then, after a few billion years, it cooled. Since we could not live without H2O, it had to come from somewhere outside the earth. The flood could be a description of the earth being hit with with asteroids that were made of ice. This process could have continued for many years after the cooling of the earth (when it was cooled enough to sustain life, more billions of years). Since several unconnected cultures have stories of a great flood, a "flood" could be a myth or history. Who knows for sure? The good news is that humans are still surviving. The question is how long?

What impresses me is there is a planet earth that sustains life. We have a moon that keeps the earth at just enough stable angle that we have more or less stable seasons. The core of the earth is a great hot core of iron that generates a magnetic field that protects us from harmful particles from space.

Instead of mindless arguments on whether or not there was a designer of the universe, let's all work together to keep the living earth, instead of destroying life. Isn't that what Christianity should be about? LIFE? Fulfilled life? Can our limited human minds even comprehend what is TRUTH?
Hmmmm

Jefferson, GA

#68 Jan 4, 2013
Fud wrote:
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To honest to be a preacher and don't believe in fairy tales.
What fairy tales?
Oh my

Dahlonega, GA

#69 Jan 4, 2013
Hill Will wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Science is a methodology, a systematic, empirically derived knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. As such, it is a marvelous tool for mankind to use in the physical & material world (but not in the spiritual realm).
Science is sometimes used unwisely by some atheists in a vain attempt to discredit the archaeological, historical, & anecdotal evidence of a god. I believe in science and God. Rather than rejecting God or science, based on science, I love the mystery of God and The Universe.
I'm not sure how treating others with unconditional love and acceptance ignores and contradicts physical and scientific evidence and research. Please explain.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
If you review this post you will see that I was responding to a train of thought that you had put forward, namely the superiority of the Christian faith over all others by declaring your beliefs as facts. Unfortunately your beliefs ignore any number of facts that have been established by the very science that you consider "a marvelous tool for mankind to use in the physical & material world".

"Science is sometimes used unwisely by some atheists in a vain attempt to discredit the archaeological, historical, & anecdotal evidence of a god."

Is the evidence provided by Science only available for use when it does not contradict your deeply held beliefs?

Can a person not believe as you and still be considered a theist ?

Can you provide references to the "archaeological, historical, & anecdotal evidence of a god" ?
Oh my

Dahlonega, GA

#70 Jan 4, 2013
Hill Will wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...Science tells us that the earth started as a hot molten mass where water wasn't present. Then, after a few billion years, it cooled. Since we could not live without H2O, it had to come from somewhere outside the earth. The flood could be a description of the earth being hit with with asteroids that were made of ice. This process could have continued for many years after the cooling of the earth (when it was cooled enough to sustain life, more billions of years).

Since several unconnected cultures have stories of a great flood, a "flood" could be a myth or history. Who knows for sure? The good news is that humans are still surviving. The question is how long?
It doesn't take much effort to begin to understand where water came from, and more in-depth learning can take place by following some of the source material.

Yes, many of the cultures to the East and the West of the Levant have Food Tales, but it takes a bit of study to learn which tales preceeded and how they are intertwined in the religious mythology of their particular culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_water_...
Some of the most likely contributory factors to the origin of the Earth's oceans are as follows:

_The cooling down of the primordial world to the point where the outgassed volatile components were held in an atmosphere of sufficient pressure for the stabilization and retention of liquid water.

_Comets, trans-Neptunian objects or water-rich meteorites (protoplanets) from the outer reaches of the main asteroid belt colliding with the Earth may have brought water to the world's oceans. Measurements of the ratio of the hydrogen isotopes deuterium and protium point to asteroids, since similar percentage impurities in carbon-rich chondrites were found in oceanic water, whereas previous measurement of the isotopes' concentrations in comets and trans-Neptunian objects correspond only slightly to water on the Earth.

_Biochemically through mineralization and photosynthesis.

_Gradual leakage of water stored in hydrous minerals of the Earth's rocks.

_Photolysis: radiation can break down chemical bonds on the surface.
Oh my

Dahlonega, GA

#71 Jan 4, 2013
Floridian wrote:
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You don't see lots of Lions and Tigers and Bears do you?
If you think back to the movie, this refrain was actually an expression of Fear of the Unknown, taking the untraveled path into an unknown future of uncertian outcome.

Sure there's an abundance of Lions, and Tigers, and Bears, but what are you going to do remain in Munchcan Land or get on with your trip down the yellow brick road.
Hill Will

Commerce, GA

#72 Jan 4, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
If you review this post you will see that I was responding to a train of thought that you had put forward, namely the superiority of the Christian faith over all others by declaring your beliefs as facts.
Yes, I follow Christ not any other god. Hod has no religion.

No religion is superior to another. Christianity is a religion.
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Unfortunately your beliefs ignore any number of facts that have been established by the very science that you consider "a marvelous tool for mankind to use in the physical & material world".
I'm not sure what you mean. How does following Christ conflict with science. I looked through my Physics and Chemistry books and I didn't find any conflicts between my beliefs. Perhaps you can enlighten me and tell me how science conflicts with loving God, humanity, the earth, animals, and other human beings.
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Is the evidence provided by Science only available for use when it does not contradict your deeply held beliefs?
Can a person not believe as you and still be considered a theist ?
Can you provide references to the "archaeological, historical, & anecdotal evidence of a god" ?
It is common to believe today that there is a war going on between science and religion. I don't have a dog in that fight. Besides it is it is a great day. I'm going out to play. I think I will go on a hike and do some scientific research. If I find any archaeological evidence of a dead god on Blood Mountain, I'll let you know.

Thanks for your post. Perhaps, I will continue it later.
blairsville devil

Zephyrhills, FL

#73 Jan 4, 2013
H.Will It seem as if you are suffering from the effect of delusion.Earlier I thought you were more of a realist than not.Are you still believing the fairy tales told to you by your parents or another adult? You seem to be a christian apologist when confronted with differing beliefs pertaining to the bible.There is no doubt that the flood in the bible was caused by water.Water enough to cover the tallest mountain.What happened to all of this water,so quickly and where did the dove come from? I don't consider the opposing forces of religion and science as a war,even tho the religious organzations have used all types of actions ,including murder to prevent us from learning the truth.We are governed by nature,no virgin birth,no miracles,no rising from the dead ,no walking on water,no stopping of the earths rotation and hundreds of other impossible acts.
Just Plain Dumb

Dahlonega, GA

#74 Jan 4, 2013
blairsville devil wrote:
H.Will It seem as if you are suffering from the effect of delusion.Earlier I thought you were more of a realist than not.Are you still believing the fairy tales told to you by your parents or another adult? You seem to be a christian apologist when confronted with differing beliefs pertaining to the bible.There is no doubt that the flood in the bible was caused by water.Water enough to cover the tallest mountain.What happened to all of this water,so quickly and where did the dove come from? I don't consider the opposing forces of religion and science as a war,even tho the religious organzations have used all types of actions ,including murder to prevent us from learning the truth.We are governed by nature,no virgin birth,no miracles,no rising from the dead ,no walking on water,no stopping of the earths rotation and hundreds of other impossible acts.
So if you don't believe in God, you must not believe in the Devil...

So then why are you using his name (as in Blairsville Devil) if you don't believe? Because you're just plain dumb??? Yep, that's pretty much it!!!
contradiction

Dahlonega, GA

#75 Jan 4, 2013
Hill Will wrote:
<quoted text>
Science is a methodology, a systematic, empirically derived knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. As such, it is a marvelous tool for mankind to use in the physical & material world (but not in the spiritual realm).
Hill Will wrote:
<quoted text>
Science tells us that the earth started as a hot molten mass where water wasn't present. Then, after a few billion years, it cooled.
Science is systematic, empirically-derived knowledge. That's why your quoted statement just after that contradicts the first statement. Empirical is "Based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic."
Thus, since no one has observed or experience what happened "a few billion years" ago, the stuff most people call "science" isn't science at all -- just theory. Science uses The Scientific Method, a part of which says that an experiment is reproducible and that it can be reproducible at another location. Supposition with conclusions is not science. There're a lot of suppositions that are theories that are passed off as facts, such as The Theory of Evolution.
Roscoe

Jefferson, GA

#76 Jan 4, 2013
contradiction wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Science is systematic, empirically-derived knowledge. That's why your quoted statement just after that contradicts the first statement. Empirical is "Based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic."
Thus, since no one has observed or experience what happened "a few billion years" ago, the stuff most people call "science" isn't science at all -- just theory. Science uses The Scientific Method, a part of which says that an experiment is reproducible and that it can be reproducible at another location. Supposition with conclusions is not science. There're a lot of suppositions that are theories that are passed off as facts, such as The Theory of Evolution.
Great post. Another example of theoretical supposition is man's causing global warming.
Oh my

Dahlonega, GA

#77 Jan 4, 2013
contradiction wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...Thus, since no one has observed or experience what happened "a few billion years" ago, the stuff most people call "science" isn't science at all -- just theory. Science uses The Scientific Method, a part of which says that an experiment is reproducible and that it can be reproducible at another location. Supposition with conclusions is not science. There're a lot of suppositions that are theories that are passed off as facts, such as The Theory of Evolution.
"since no one has observed or experience what happened"

What an interesting line of thought, how do we know that the Declaration of Independence was REALLY signed by the people whose names appear on it. No one alive today witnessed the event.

And speaking of the Scientific Method
The steps of the scientific method are to:
_Ask a Question
_Do Background Research
_Construct a Hypothesis
_Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
_Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
_Communicate Your Results

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_metho...
The scientific method (or simply scientific method) is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge.[1] To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.[2] The Oxford English Dictionary defines the scientific method as: "a method or procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses."[3]

The chief characteristic which distinguishes the scientific method from other methods of acquiring knowledge is that scientists seek to let reality speak for itself, supporting a theory when a theory's predictions are confirmed and challenging a theory when its predictions prove false. Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, identifiable features distinguish scientific inquiry from other methods of obtaining knowledge. Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses via predictions which can be derived from them. These steps must be repeatable, to guard against mistake or confusion in any particular experimenter. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many independently derived hypotheses together in a coherent, supportive structure. Theories, in turn, may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.

Scientific inquiry is generally intended to be as objective as possible in order to reduce biased interpretations of results. Another basic expectation is to document, archive and share all data and methodology so they are available for careful scrutiny by other scientists, giving them the opportunity to verify results by attempting to reproduce them. This practice, called full disclosure, also allows statistical measures of the reliability of these data to be established (when data is sampled or compared to chance).

And speaking of a Scientific Theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theor...
A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."[1][2] Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force.[3][4]

“Optimism”

Since: Dec 12

Blairsville, GA

#78 Jan 4, 2013
blairsville devil wrote:
H.Will It seem as if you are suffering from the effect of delusion.Earlier I thought you were more of a realist than not.Are you still believing the fairy tales told to you by your parents or another adult? You seem to be a christian apologist when confronted with differing beliefs pertaining to the bible.There is no doubt that the flood in the bible was caused by water.Water enough to cover the tallest mountain.What happened to all of this water,so quickly and where did the dove come from? I don't consider the opposing forces of religion and science as a war,even tho the religious organzations have used all types of actions ,including murder to prevent us from learning the truth.We are governed by nature,no virgin birth,no miracles,no rising from the dead ,no walking on water,no stopping of the earths rotation and hundreds of other impossible acts.
I have a dog to hunt in this one. Blairsville Devil you are a basic argument person. You never see black and white and you expect to offer your argument for gray or nonexistent. I suspect you are ancient. As for the flood. God revealed to Noah (a good man) his plan. It was built according to those specifics. He took animals, fowls and birds in twos. I believe doves fall in the twos categories. Noah may have been the first engineer, construction expert and animal etc classification specialist. He sent out a raven first and if you will read about doves you will see that they are very detail oriented. In modern times we have "dove releasing" and they fly in a pattern then turn and always head home. The dove released went out and got an olive branch and flew back to Noah (the owner). The olive branch represented live plants. You are wrong there was a virgin birth, the birth of Jesus, he lived and then died and arose now within the hearts of believers. I have no idea how you got to be and how you are posting on such a small town forum, shouldn't you try publishing some of your works?
blairsville devil

Zephyrhills, FL

#79 Jan 4, 2013
Certainly I don't believe there is such a thing as the devil.I have written several times why I use this name on the forum.I was called the Blairsville devil by a fanatical ignorant woman there in Blairsville .The reason being after I told her that I didn't go to any church and I was probably the only person that didn't in Union county.If she called me the Blairsville god,I would be using that name.If I am not dumb,you are stupid.
Julie

Dahlonega, GA

#80 Jan 4, 2013
The blairsville devil has a really small wee wee.

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