Why don't Southerners retire and move...

“Christmas on my mind!”

Since: Jun 09

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#42 Oct 24, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
Interestingly, many of the fastest growing retirement communities are in the Midwest.
With the climate change taking place, many of these communities are seen as temperate climates without the extreme heat of the summertime South.
In fact, many REITs exist to allow investment in this trend.
The communities love the full-time property taxes paid by people who require only part-time services,
and who, because of their ages, require even fewer services than average property owners.
Part-time resident who commit almost no crimes, make no demands on social programs, who invest their money with local banks and investment companies, who spend substantial funds to purchase and maintain their properties, and have no children requiring public schooling.
How great a plan is that for a community to enjoy an increased tax base with reduced public service demands ?
REIT's were a great reveal! LOL. You stated part-time residents commit ALMOST no crimes, its those near misses we worry about the most. I disagree with you that only the part-time residents maintain their property. You found something that interested you part-time or you would never have brought your millions to this county. If you were in a ghetto then you did not pick another to buy a home in. Yes you are retired and so am I. I earned my retirement and hope you did also. Now don't try and smooze us with oh the beautiful mountains and gentler mode of life. What we are tired of is the "talk down".
Algore

Dawsonville, GA

#43 Oct 24, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
Interestingly, many of the fastest growing retirement communities are in the Midwest.
With the climate change taking place, many of these communities are seen as temperate climates without the extreme heat of the summertime South.
In fact, many REITs exist to allow investment in this trend.
The communities love the full-time property taxes paid by people who require only part-time services,
and who, because of their ages, require even fewer services than average property owners.
Part-time resident who commit almost no crimes, make no demands on social programs, who invest their money with local banks and investment companies, who spend substantial funds to purchase and maintain their properties, and have no children requiring public schooling.
How great a plan is that for a community to enjoy an increased tax base with reduced public service demands ?
"With the climate change taking place, many of these communities are seen as temperate climates without the extreme heat of the summertime South."

Well said my fine friend. Well said. Would you like to buy some carbon off-sets? Also, I have some property in Kansas which will become beach property, eventually. Let me know if you are interested.

“Christmas on my mind!”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#44 Oct 24, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
I love it here.
But if anyone wants to stop whining about those who bought real estate in Union County, and instead put their money where they mouths are and buy the property themselves, I'm happy to help them out.
There's another spot higher on the mountain I'm thinking of buying anyway.
Ever consider how amusing it is that all the TOPIX posters whining about "Socialism", also bitch and moan about how Capitalism is destroying their community ?
That "Cognitive Dissonance" is a bitch.
Big words. I am SOOOOOO glad you entertain us with your riches.
Georgia Idiots

Macedonia, OH

#45 Oct 24, 2013
Local Boy wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you just pack up your stuff and get in your car and head it south where you can find people who think and act like you and leave us poor unfortunate but happy people to ourselves to suffer.
Poor and unfortunate? It seems you have a computer and internet..guess your not to poor..
Georgia Idiots

Macedonia, OH

#46 Oct 24, 2013
union wrote:
<quoted text>
You still don't understand what I am trying to say, and I apparently don't know how to explain it to you so that you can comprehend it, so I'm not going to argue with you when you don't want to try to be open to seeing anyone else's point of view anyway.
And by the way, when I was a teenager growing up here in the late 1970's and early 1980's, we never got bored. There was always plenty of things to do. I guess in this fast-paced world we live in now it must be harder to keep teens entertained.
I can see other's point of view and certainly understand them. When you was a teen it was a lot different then today.. I have teens and kids in their 20's telling me what goes on in this town and its so upsetting. The drugs and drinking issues are running rapid, kids are waisting their lives and the parents have no idea where or what their kids are even doing and are totally oblivious to it. Some kids have said that their parents even do drugs, smoke pot and drink WITH their kids. What is that teaching them? Then when you have no jobs, and nothing for kids to do and you seem to think that this is ok? And no businesses here that could provide jobs and you seem to think that is ok? Yes, I certainly get it but people here are so set in their ways and they don't..
Georgia Idiots

Macedonia, OH

#47 Oct 24, 2013
Timmy_ wrote:
<quoted text>floridiots aren't Southerners!
You would be surprised.... and you do know that Florida is further South then Georgia? A lot of you here only see those that retire here and have worked and earned their money to do so, but you would be surprised of the Southerners in Florida..Matter of fact I would consider from the lingo used that South Floridians and those from South Georgia are Southerners and you all from here are considered Hillbilly's, correct?
Mom is boss

Dawsonville, GA

#48 Oct 24, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way... Anyone here "outraged" over the Yankee invasion from Florida that wants to buy my properties for what I've invested - please step forward with a cashiers check or other form of guaranteed funds.
Those paid to repair and improve the property can find work elsewhere I'm sure, and someone else is welcome to pay the property taxes.
I love Union County and the people, but I could always use the money to build another Cabin - so I'll uninvade to make everyone happy.
Just tryin to help.
You would love Detroit!! Full of Democrats and the results of the democrats over the years have made for some super deals on houses in that city, saw one news report 2 story, basement $3500 and best part no neighbors as all the other houses on street we vacant.
You could buy the whole street and name it after yourself!!!!!!

“Dont care how you did it in FL”

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#49 Oct 24, 2013
Georgia Idiots wrote:
<quoted text> You would be surprised.... and you do know that Florida is further South then Georgia? A lot of you here only see those that retire here and have worked and earned their money to do so, but you would be surprised of the Southerners in Florida..Matter of fact I would consider from the lingo used that South Floridians and those from South Georgia are Southerners and you all from here are considered Hillbilly's, correct?
The majority of the ones that come here are carpetbaggin yankees that moved to florida and destroyed it and now are coming here. floridiots are like a flock of locust.
U R NUTS

Hudson, OH

#50 Oct 24, 2013
Georgia Idiots wrote:
<quoted text> First off none of the reasons you listed is why I moved here. I am not condemning anyone for their culture or way of life. Your missing the point can't you comprehend? To say "people like me" just shows your mentality when you don't even know me. I would not want to see changes to make this area like a big city and take away the country feeling. But if a new restaurant or something providing jobs for those living here on welfare/ food stamps etc. then I am for it. There are no jobs here and the ones that are, do not pay enough for a family to live on. Many born and raised here included.
I get along with everyone. God gave us this land to live on and that includes anyone wanting to come and live here no matter what the reason is. That is not for you or anyone else to judge. You apparently have no feelings toward others and are only worried about yourself or at least that is what is coming off from your words to me. I can tell you from all the young teens I have heard from born and raised here but yet have NOTHING to occupy their time and ...
As do many, when I choose this screen (posting) name, I did so for a reason. Obviously it doesn’t need any explanation, as it clearly stands on its own ... as does yours “Georgia Idiots”.

So you are more than disingenuous, you are, before you even begin to speak, demeaning, offensive, and condemning of not only our culture, and way of life, but more so in referring to the people of our State and the local to which you, for some unbeknown reason chose to move, as being nothing more than fools, half-wits, and imbeciles.

You see none of us just fell off the back of a turnip wagon, and I, as well as I think most all Union County, comprehend exactly what you are saying.

Yes, we all know “people like you” for it becomes obvious shortly after you open your mouth spewing venom. Don’t you know that true character is revealed thought your words? Yes we know you, and the more you speak the more we learn about you.

You quickly admit that you did not move here to enjoy the positive reasons I cited, as well, you deny the negative ones, of course. But then claim your concern for “country feelings” again suggesting your clueless predispositions of the area, life, and people of which you obviously know absolutely nothing about.

You phony act of concern for those needing jobs that may be on welfare and, food stamps, particularly, of course, those born and raised here, just doesn’t wash and indeed is the height of hypocrisy. Didn’t you know anything about this community before you moved here? You didn’t know the area was historically economically depressed, and jobs were scarce?

Do you really think a new restaurant or two will really accomplish that much, other than to satisfy your own personal selfish desire for physical pleasure or entertainment?

Jobs? Most employees at restaurants work for less than minimum wage, and depend upon tips. Do you, in you infinite wisdom really believe that in a community of less than 25,000 in population that there is enough volume to provide those few people who may be employed with “enough for a family to live on”?

Yes, it is sad when a family doesn’t know where their children are and/or what they are doing. And drugs are at epidemic levels throughout nation, it isn’t unique in our area alone.

Nonetheless, you again, are wrong in suggesting that entrainment is the fix all.

Appalachian Families/Mountain People, those you find it so easy to totally misjudge, are tough, resilient, resourceful, good-hearted and far more knowledgeable in the fundamentals of life and survival than you will ever fathom. To suggest that they and their children have NOTHING to do is simply another, among your many, insults.

Clearly, you know nothing about that of which you speak. Contrary to you preconceived notions; we are more intelligent than you think, we quickly recognize a fraud when we see one.

“Christmas on my mind!”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#51 Oct 24, 2013
Georgia Idiots wrote:
<quoted text> You would be surprised.... and you do know that Florida is further South then Georgia? A lot of you here only see those that retire here and have worked and earned their money to do so, but you would be surprised of the Southerners in Florida..Matter of fact I would consider from the lingo used that South Floridians and those from South Georgia are Southerners and you all from here are considered Hillbilly's, correct?
How do you think locals should present themselves to you? What would you describe as fit to breathe in your presence?
U R NUTS

Hudson, OH

#52 Oct 24, 2013
Georgia Idiots wrote:
<quoted text> First off none of the reasons you listed is why I moved here. I am not condemning anyone for their culture or way of life. Your missing the point can't you comprehend? To say "people like me" just shows your mentality when you don't even know me. I would not want to see changes to make this area like a big city and take away the country feeling. But if a new restaurant or something providing jobs for those living here on welfare/ food stamps etc. then I am for it. There are no jobs here and the ones that are, do not pay enough for a family to live on. Many born and raised here included...
I can tell you from all the young teens I have heard from born and raised here but yet have NOTHING to occupy their time and most teens in this town are on drugs and I find that sad that there cannot be dances, a skating rink, arcades etc.and families knowing what their kids are doing and where they are is sad.... Do you realize how many new people are in this town now?
As do many, when I choose this screen (posting) name, I did so for a reason. Obviously it doesn’t need any explanation, as it clearly stands on its own ... as does yours “Georgia Idiots”.

So you are more than disingenuous, you are, before you even begin to speak, demeaning, offensive, and condemning of not only our culture, and way of life, but more so in referring to the people of our State and the local to which you, for some unbeknown reason chose to move, as being nothing more than fools, half-wits, and imbeciles.

You see none of us just fell off the back of a turnip wagon, and I, as well as I think most all Union County, comprehend exactly what you are saying.

Yes, we all know “people like you” for it becomes obvious shortly after you open your mouth spewing venom. Don’t you know that true character is revealed thought your words? Yes we know you, and the more you speak the more we learn about you.

You quickly admit that you did not move here to enjoy the positive reasons I cited, as well, you deny the negative ones, of course. But then claim your concern for “country feelings” again suggesting your clueless predispositions of the area, life, and people of which you obviously know absolutely nothing about.

You phony act of concern for those needing jobs that may be on welfare and, food stamps, particularly, of course, those born and raised here, just doesn’t wash and indeed is the height of hypocrisy. Didn’t you know anything about this community before you moved here? You didn’t know the area was historically economically depressed, and jobs were scarce?

Do you really think a new restaurant or two will really accomplish that much, other than to satisfy your own personal selfish desire for physical pleasure or entertainment?
Jobs? Most employees at restaurants work for less than minimum wage, and depend upon tips. Do you, in you infinite wisdom really believe that in a community of less than 25,000 in population that there is enough volume to provide those few people who may be employed with “enough for a family to live on”?

Yes, it is sad when a family doesn’t know where their children are and/or what they are doing. And drugs are at epidemic levels throughout nation, it isn’t unique in our area alone.

Nonetheless, you again, are wrong in suggesting that entrainment is the fix all.

Appalachian Families/Mountain People, those you find it so easy to totally misjudge, are tough, resilient, resourceful, good-hearted and far more knowledgeable in the fundamentals of life and survival than you will ever fathom. To suggest that they and their children have NOTHING to do is simply another, among your many, insults.

Clearly, you know nothing about that of which you speak. Contrary to you preconceived notions; we are more intelligent than you think, we quickly recognize a fraud when we see one.
Georgia Idiots

Macedonia, OH

#53 Oct 24, 2013
Laurel Wood wrote:
<quoted text>How do you think locals should present themselves to you? What would you describe as fit to breathe in your presence?
That is a very odd question. Do you actually think that people need to present themselves to other's ? And everyone is fit to breathe in my book, this world is for all which is what I have been saying all along, don't know about you. I have many friends here and love the old timers but when you get on topix it is so different from what is actually out there. On topix it is like everyone local wants you to think just like they do and myself I would just like people to think period. I understand no two people think alike. I am a very easy person to get along with and have never had any issues with anyone around this town other then on topix and to me most of the locals on here are rude and do not represent the majority of people in this town.
U R NUTS

Hudson, OH

#54 Oct 24, 2013
Whoops ... post 50 above ... misspelling

Should be:

Nonetheless, you again, are wrong in suggesting that entertainment is the fix all.
U R NUTS

Hudson, OH

#55 Oct 24, 2013
And sorry for the double posting, really having a problem today.
Georgia Idiots

Macedonia, OH

#57 Oct 24, 2013
U R NUTS wrote:
Whoops ... post 50 above ... misspelling
Should be:
Nonetheless, you again, are wrong in suggesting that entertainment is the fix all.
To your #50 post..
Wow... all that false talk because I simply responded and gave my opinion to U.R. Nuts...?? You have TOTALLY misjudged me my friend.. I have not called anyone the names you say nor have I put down your culture.. I was born and raised country. Those on topics have put down all outsiders coming here does "Floridiots" ring a bell? Hence the name I use. I am sorry you got so carried away and so far off base that its unbelievable just because I gave an opinion about new business. I know the town, I know the kids, believe me wht I say is true. Min. wage would be better then no wage. And as for me I rarely go out to eat and could care less but if wages feed families I am all for it. I take it you are a liberal person that wants people to think and believe like you. I have many friends here and love the country culture. The people on topix are so degrading and nothing like what is really out there among the town. Good hard working people that don't choose to degrade others on topics. That's my kind of people.. You have a good life my friend. WOW unbelievable
Georgia Idiots

Macedonia, OH

#58 Oct 24, 2013
U R NUTS wrote:
And sorry for the double posting, really having a problem today.
No problem I guess you just wanted to falsely degrade me twice.. We can just agree to disagree and let it be..
Informed Opinion

Cape Coral, FL

#59 Oct 24, 2013
Laurel Wood wrote:
<quoted text>REIT's were a great reveal! LOL. You stated part-time residents commit ALMOST no crimes, its those near misses we worry about the most. I disagree with you that only the part-time residents maintain their property. You found something that interested you part-time or you would never have brought your millions to this county. If you were in a ghetto then you did not pick another to buy a home in. Yes you are retired and so am I. I earned my retirement and hope you did also. Now don't try and smooze us with oh the beautiful mountains and gentler mode of life. What we are tired of is the "talk down".
Simple facts:

1 - Part-Time Residents are generally mature and/or of retirement age, or if younger, relatively financially secure such that they are hardly the group that rob 7-11s, and generally pay their bills.

If you are unhappy with the "move ins", or the "part-timers", blame Capitalism which allows us to buy property here; or blame the Constitution which guarantees nondiscrimination toward residents of other states; or blame your neighbors who made millions selling us the property and building our cabins.

It is silly and hypocritical to enjoy the cash we paid for our properties, enjoy the cash we paid to build our homes; enjoy the taxes we pay on our homes and other purchases; enjoy out financial wherewithal we use to patronize the local restaurants and businesses; and otherwise enjoy the cash flow we bring;
and,
enjoy that we utilize less resources than full-time residents because we don't bring children that require education, we all have insurance to pay for our medical care, and otherwise utilize far fewer resources than full-time residents;

and complain.

Now please explain how anyone can whine about part-time residents.

“Christmas on my mind!”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#61 Oct 24, 2013
Georgia Idiots wrote:
<quoted text> That is a very odd question. Do you actually think that people need to present themselves to other's ? And everyone is fit to breathe in my book, this world is for all which is what I have been saying all along, don't know about you. I have many friends here and love the old timers but when you get on topix it is so different from what is actually out there. On topix it is like everyone local wants you to think just like they do and myself I would just like people to think period. I understand no two people think alike. I am a very easy person to get along with and have never had any issues with anyone around this town other then on topix and to me most of the locals on here are rude and do not represent the majority of people in this town.
Well if you only have problems on Topix then you probably came to it that way. I guess it will finally become evident to me that you are as you say.

“Christmas on my mind!”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#62 Oct 24, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Simple facts:
1 - Part-Time Residents are generally mature and/or of retirement age, or if younger, relatively financially secure such that they are hardly the group that rob 7-11s, and generally pay their bills.
If you are unhappy with the "move ins", or the "part-timers", blame Capitalism which allows us to buy property here; or blame the Constitution which guarantees nondiscrimination toward residents of other states; or blame your neighbors who made millions selling us the property and building our cabins.
It is silly and hypocritical to enjoy the cash we paid for our properties, enjoy the cash we paid to build our homes; enjoy the taxes we pay on our homes and other purchases; enjoy out financial wherewithal we use to patronize the local restaurants and businesses; and otherwise enjoy the cash flow we bring;
and,
enjoy that we utilize less resources than full-time residents because we don't bring children that require education, we all have insurance to pay for our medical care, and otherwise utilize far fewer resources than full-time residents;
and complain.
Now please explain how anyone can whine about part-time residents.
You are the only person that has made such a strong point for part-time residents. Without you saying it so many times I would not have known. Full-time residents and natives have achieved their dream just like you. Believe it or not we have homes well maintained. We bought our property too, not everyone inherited their dream. We work sometimes driving further than we would like but there is no reason to complain. We have home, vehicle and health insurance. We have retirement accounts and save what we can. Our children go to college either locally or sometimes out of state, with or without scholarships. Don't you think we are all alike and despite the economy since 2001; trying to have our dreams. The only difference I find in you and me is that you have a second home and we have chosen to own one. We eat out at local and nearby restaurants and go to the big city as often as we necessary. Please feel free to add anything you want but there should be no noticeable differences in us.
Informed Opinion

Cape Coral, FL

#63 Oct 24, 2013
Laurel Wood wrote:
<quoted text>You are the only person that has made such a strong point for part-time residents. Without you saying it so many times I would not have known. Full-time residents and natives have achieved their dream just like you. Believe it or not we have homes well maintained. We bought our property too, not everyone inherited their dream. We work sometimes driving further than we would like but there is no reason to complain. We have home, vehicle and health insurance. We have retirement accounts and save what we can. Our children go to college either locally or sometimes out of state, with or without scholarships. Don't you think we are all alike and despite the economy since 2001; trying to have our dreams. The only difference I find in you and me is that you have a second home and we have chosen to own one. We eat out at local and nearby restaurants and go to the big city as often as we necessary. Please feel free to add anything you want but there should be no noticeable differences in us.
Great post.

I completely agree.

We are all in the same boat, hopefully rowing together.

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