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Informed Opinion wrote:
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...There are over 773,000 words in the Bible. What a boring thing that must be !
But Thank God the paragraphs are short.
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well, when they come to get my guns I think I will give them the ammo first.
Gun Dealers Not All Sane

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For instance, a local gun dealer in Klamath Falls, OR named Carl Pfeiffer runs around yelling about Armageddon, is verbally abusive to women and elected officials. The man needs serious mental help and would not pass psychological testing. Yet he is a licensed gun dealer suddenly. Great.
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For instance, a local gun dealer in Klamath Falls, OR named Carl Pfeiffer runs around yelling about Armageddon, is verbally abusive to women and elected officials. The man needs serious mental help and would not pass psychological testing. Yet he is a licensed gun dealer suddenly. Great.

How to take away guns from police and other government agencies.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
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The NRA's off-target plan
Bullets flying around, fired by inadequately trained minimum-wage guards, is a recipe for disaster.

...Shooting a weapon during a crisis is a difficult thing. According to the New York Times, NYPD officers opened fire on individuals some 60 times in 2006 (the last year for which data were available). Their "hit ratio" was 34%, which means they missed the person they were aiming at with two out of three shots. The NYPD, which has among the best-trained officers in the nation, claims its "hit ratio" compares favorably with departments across the country. The LAPD hit rate for the same period was 29%.

The NRA-funded study proposes placing an armed security guard or staff member in every American school. It suggests that armed staff members at schools would need 40 to 60 hours of training at a cost of $800 to $1,000 per officer. By contrast, NYPD cadets get 13 days of weapons training (more than 100 hours). Federal air marshal trainees are required to take 155 hours of firearms training. Do we think that the "school resources officers" proposed in the study would be more accurate shooters with less training? And, if they're not, do we really want two out of three shots fired by security to be ricocheting down school corridors?

Another unanswered question is who will fill these jobs. According to a national survey, the average armed security guard makes $21,000 a year in major urban areas, and closer to minimum wage in most of the country. That's less than one-third the pay of a veteran NYPD officer. So we are going to compete with McDonald's for top talent, give a person a gun and $1,000 worth of training and put them into a crowded elementary school? As schools across the country are making do with less, will they buck market trends for more expensive security guards?

Another concern relates to types of weapons. The Transportation Safety Administration has spent much time choosing the weapons and ammunition used by air marshals. An armed lunatic or terrorist on a plane must be put down quickly. But heavy-duty rounds can go right through targets and rip through the fuselage of a plane, potentially creating greater catastrophe. For that reason, the TSA recommends special ammunition that combines stopping power with a slug that stays in the first body it hits. What kind of weapons and ammo does the NRA propose as being right for schools? I found no mention of special ammunition in the 225-page study....
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TakeAway wrote:
<quoted text>How to take away guns from police and other government agencies.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
Breitbart ?

Oh yea..

- The website that is tied in with Tucker Carlson and the payment to hookers falsely claim a Democratic senator paid them for sex;

- The website that falsely accused ACORN of voter fraud which required an apology and payment to ACORN for the lies;

- The website that lied and aimed Nobel winning economist Krugman had declared bankruptcy - which they had to retract.

Yea... Breitbart.

That's impressive.
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<quoted text>Breitbart ?

Oh yea..

- The website that is tied in with Tucker Carlson and the payment to hookers falsely claim a Democratic senator paid them for sex;

- The website that falsely accused ACORN of voter fraud which required an apology and payment to ACORN for the lies;

- The website that lied and aimed Nobel winning economist Krugman had declared bankruptcy - which they had to retract.

Yea... Breitbart.

That's impressive.
The story:

In the March 11 post, Breitbart.com editor at large Larry O’Connor mocked the Nobel Prize winning economist and New York Times columnist for his alleged financial mismanagement.

Unfortunately for O’Connor, the report that Krugman went bankrupt is clearly a joke and originated from the satirical website The Daily Currant.

Someone uses website this as a source ?
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- The website that falsely accused ACORN of voter fraud which required an apology and payment to ACORN for the lies;


Keep repeating, I love Acorn, I love Acorn, I love Acorn.
They are not crooks, they are not crooks, they are not crooks.

so many times you do believe it, and even get some gullible people to believe. But not enough to get everyone to believe the bs.




"WASHINGTON, March 11 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained documents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) detailing federal investigations into the alleged corrupt activities of Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). The documents reference serious allegations of corruption and voter registration fraud by ACORN as well as the Obama administration's decision to shut down a criminal investigation without filing criminal charges.

The documents include background information on two specific complaints filed in October 2008 by Lucy Corelli and Joseph Borges , Republican Registrars of Voters in Stamford and Bridgeport, Connecticut, respectively, during the 2008 election season.

According to Corelli, on August 1, 2008, her office received 1,200 ACORN voter registration cards from the Secretary of State's office. Over 300 of these cards were rejected because of "duplicates, underage, illegible and invalid addresses," which "put a tremendous strain on our office staff and caused endless work hours at taxpayers' expense." Corelli claimed the total cost of the extra work caused by ACORN corruption was $20,000. Likewise, Borges contended that: "The organization ACORN during the summer of 2008 conducted a registration drive which has produced over 100 rejections due to incomplete forms and individuals who are not citizens..." Among the examples cited by Borges was a seven-year old child who was registered to vote by ACORN through the use of a forged signature and a fake birth certificate claiming she was 27-years old.

The FBI and Department of Justice opened an investigation. However, the Obama Justice Department, while noting that ACORN had engaged in "questionable hiring and training practices," closed down the investigation in March 2009, claiming ACORN broke no laws.

By contrast, the documents also include records related to a federal investigation of ACORN corruption in St. Louis, Missouri, involving 1,492 allegedly fraudulent voter registration cards submitted by Project Vote, a liberal non-profit organization affiliated with ACORN on voter registration drives, during the 2006 election season. Assistant United States Attorney Hal Goldsmith initiated the investigation with "concurrence" from the Department of Justice and the participation of the FBI. According to a Justice Department memo, Goldsmith "advised he would prosecute any individual responsible for submitting fraudulent voter registration cards." Goldsmith identified the statute for prosecution: Title 42, USC 1973 (gg), which provides for criminal penalties for fraudulent voter registrations. In April 2008, eight former ACORN employees from the St. Louis office pled guilty to voter registration fraud. "
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
WASHINGTON, March 11 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained documents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) detailing federal investigations into the alleged corrupt activities of Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)....

...The documents include background information on two specific complaints filed in October 2008 by Lucy Corelli and Joseph Borges , Republican Registrars of Voters in Stamford and Bridgeport, Connecticut, respectively, during the 2008 election season.

According to Corelli, on August 1, 2008, her office received 1,200 ACORN voter registration cards from the Secretary of State's office. Over 300 of these cards were rejected because of "duplicates, underage, illegible and invalid addresses," which "put a tremendous strain on our office staff and caused endless work hours at taxpayers' expense." Corelli claimed the total cost of the extra work caused by ACORN corruption was $20,000. Likewise, Borges contended that: "The organization ACORN during the summer of 2008 conducted a registration drive which has produced over 100 rejections due to incomplete forms and individuals who are not citizens..." Among the examples cited by Borges was a seven-year old child who was registered to vote by ACORN through the use of a forged signature and a fake birth certificate claiming she was 27-years old.

The FBI and Department of Justice opened an investigation. However, the Obama Justice Department, while noting that ACORN had engaged in "questionable hiring and training practices," closed down the investigation in March 2009, claiming ACORN broke no laws
Dang, if only you had put a bit more effort into researching this you wouldn't be wiping the egg off your face. Once you get the yolk out of your eyes, note that CT requires ALL voter registration forms to be submitted, which means that a canvassing group is required, BY LAW, to submitted ALL registration forms. Course this is a point that has been brought to your attention before, unfortunately, like so much in the world, it's just one more bit of information that you find too BORING to recognize.

Please post more right-wing tripe, it's just too easy to discredit.

Two years later, ACORN cleared of voter-fraud charges
Brian Lockhart, Staff Writer
Published 11:33 pm, Wednesday, February 2, 2011

Following a two-year probe, state investigators have cleared the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now of charges of voter fraud brought by Republican registrars in Bridgeport and Stamford.

"The evidence does not provide a sufficient basis to determine that Connecticut ACORN had an institutional or systematic role in designing and implementing a scheme or strategy to fraudulently register or enroll electors ... prior to the November 2, 2008 election," read the recent report from the Elections Enforcement Commission.

Connecticut was one of several states where the liberal ACORN came under fire in the run-up to the 2008 elections.

...Because ACORN under state law was required to turn in all cards to registrars, the organization would identify at the top those identified as defective -- an effort to avoid the very complaints filed by Borges and Corelli.

After that is when the system fell apart, according to the Elections Enforcement Commission's investigation.

"The Commission finds ACORN ... maintained a system designed to prevent or diminish inaccuracies or inefficiencies in the voter registration drive," read the report. "Unfortunately these attempts to flag problem cards were rendered useless upon processing when the top portion ... was separated and discarded from the voter registration card below, which was retained for record keeping."
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Dang, if only you had put a bit more effort into researching this you wouldn't be wiping the egg off your face. Once you get the yolk out of your eyes, note that CT requires ALL voter registration forms to be submitted, which means that a canvassing group is required, BY LAW, to submitted ALL registration forms. Course this is a point that has been brought to your attention before, unfortunately, like so much in the world, it's just one more bit of information that you find too BORING to recognize.
Please post more right-wing tripe, it's just too easy to discredit.
Two years later, ACORN cleared of voter-fraud charges
Brian Lockhart, Staff Writer
Published 11:33 pm, Wednesday, February 2, 2011
Following a two-year probe, state investigators have cleared the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now of charges of voter fraud brought by Republican registrars in Bridgeport and Stamford.
"The evidence does not provide a sufficient basis to determine that Connecticut ACORN had an institutional or systematic role in designing and implementing a scheme or strategy to fraudulently register or enroll electors ... prior to the November 2, 2008 election," read the recent report from the Elections Enforcement Commission.
Connecticut was one of several states where the liberal ACORN came under fire in the run-up to the 2008 elections.
...Because ACORN under state law was required to turn in all cards to registrars, the organization would identify at the top those identified as defective -- an effort to avoid the very complaints filed by Borges and Corelli.
After that is when the system fell apart, according to the Elections Enforcement Commission's investigation.
"The Commission finds ACORN ... maintained a system designed to prevent or diminish inaccuracies or inefficiencies in the voter registration drive," read the report. "Unfortunately these attempts to flag problem cards were rendered useless upon processing when the top portion ... was separated and discarded from the voter registration card below, which was retained for record keeping."
But no link, only your say so.
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8 months after your post was published.


October 25, 2011
The truth about Obama, rebranded ACORN and Operation Occupy Wall Street
By Michael Gaynor

On August 22, 2011, Judicial Watch issued an important special report titled "The Rebranding of ACORN" ( www.judicialwatch.org/files/documents/2011/ac... ).

The 28-page report rightly concluded that (1) "[r]umors of ACORN's demise are completely false" because "ACORN lives on in the form of its affiliated organizations, such as Affordable Housing Centers of America, The Advance Group, The Black Institute, and Project Vote" and "ACORN's newly formed state organizations will continue to carry on...'ACORN's work of organizing low- and moderate-income folks"; (2) ACORN's bankruptcy papers "appear to be incomplete and/or inaccurate" and "investigators believe these papers do not account for tens of millions of dollars in ACORN funds"; (3) "Project Vote is clearly going to continue to undermine the rule of law and the integrity of elections through fraudulent voter registrations" and "has retained voter registration fraud-tainted staff," so "the scandal of 2008 is bound to be repeated in 2012"; and (4) "ACORN leaders at both the state and national levels seem to have systematically violated numerous laws, and yet, the Obama Justice Department, likely due to the president's personal and political ties to the organization, refuses to investigate."

Judicial Watch did state: "Barack Obama served as a former employee of Project Vote and has said publicly that he's 'been fighting alongside' ACORN his entire career. despite clear evidence of corrupt and criminal behavior by ACORN and its employees, the Obama Justice Department has thus far failed to take any ACORN organizations to account."
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
But no link, only your say so.
It's a shame that Google is not your friend, but since it is not I must thank you for the opportunity to repost this information again. You may find this partt of the report BORING, but it is a fact none the less.

...Because ACORN under state law was required to turn in all cards to registrars, the organization would identify at the top those identified as defective -- an effort to avoid the very complaints filed by Borges and Corelli.

Again, thank you for the opportunity to repost this information, but for the life of me I don't understand why you enjoy so much egg on your face.

Two years later, ACORN cleared of voter-fraud charges
Brian Lockhart, Staff Writer
Published 11:33 pm, Wednesday, February 2, 2011
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Two-years...

Following a two-year probe, state investigators have cleared the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now of charges of voter fraud brought by Republican registrars in Bridgeport and Stamford.

"The evidence does not provide a sufficient basis to determine that Connecticut ACORN had an institutional or systematic role in designing and implementing a scheme or strategy to fraudulently register or enroll electors ... prior to the November 2, 2008 election," read the recent report from the Elections Enforcement Commission.

Connecticut was one of several states where the liberal ACORN came under fire in the run-up to the 2008 elections.

...Because ACORN under state law was required to turn in all cards to registrars, the organization would identify at the top those identified as defective -- an effort to avoid the very complaints filed by Borges and Corelli.
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Watch the video and debunk her.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/...
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<quoted text>It is my child's wishes to attend school without fear...it is my right to point out something I don't agree with such as, selling guns on facebook/flea markets without background checks!!
Rights, you ain't got no stinkin rights.

I got rights.

Why if'n a man can't sell 3 or 4 S&W - M&P 15s, or Colt AR -15 A-2s, or a few AK -47s to a total stranger, for cash money, along with 1600 rounds of armor piercing ammo, loaded in 30 round magazines, tactically taped reversed end-to-end, at midnight, at a local gas station parking lot,(you don't want the wacko it to know where you live do you?), with no requirement you know he ain't a towel headed terrorist, then dammit, we have already become a commie country.

There goes our damn liberty - shot to Hell -(pun intended).

What the Sam Hill is wrong with you ?
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<quoted text>Rights, you ain't got no stinkin rights.

I got rights.

Why if'n a man can't sell 3 or 4 S&W - M&P 15s, or Colt AR -15 A-2s, or a few AK -47s to a total stranger, for cash money, along with 1600 rounds of armor piercing ammo, loaded in 30 round magazines, tactically taped reversed end-to-end, at midnight, at a local gas station parking lot,(you don't want the wacko it to know where you live do you?), with no requirement you know he ain't a towel headed terrorist, then dammit, we have already become a commie country.

There goes our damn liberty - shot to Hell -(pun intended).

What the Sam Hill is wrong with you ?
You got me so upset I forgot to add that it's people like you that can't wait to take away or personal liberties.

Stop tryin to push the damn government down our throats and tellin us what to do.

We gotta keep the government outa my gun buyin and sellin,
and keep the guvment tellin your daughter if'n she is gonna be a momma or not, and who you and her can sleep with.

Why next thing you know you'll be claiming your kid's right not to be a momma is just as inportint as my right to secretly buy and sell guns as I damn well please.
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I have a tank for sale, cheap.
Also some rocket launchers and a couple of drones.
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This is the current law on Background Checks, this has not led to a national registry, why the opposition to extending this to ALL gun transactions.

Gun Registration Paper Trail Is Long And Convoluted
April 11, 2013 3:00 PM
http://www.npr.org/2013/04/11/176954637/gun-r...

Melissa Block talks with David Chipman, a retired agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, about the process set in motion when a buyer attempts to purchase a gun from a federally licensed firearms dealer.

BLOCK: Let's talk about current law now. If I go to a licensed gun dealer and I want to buy a gun, I have to fill out this form right here. It's a few pages long, the firearms transaction record, ATF 4473. What information am I giving here?

CHIPMAN: Basically, what you're putting on that form is the same information you'd have on your state or government-issued ID. It'd be your name, date of birth, address. It does give you the option of putting your Social Security number on there, which isn't mandatory, but it does help if your name's similar to other people and there might be some confusion.

BLOCK: It also asks a bunch of questions, though, that would prohibit me from buying a gun, right? Am I a felon? Am I fugitive? All sorts of things like that.

CHIPMAN: Right. Different items that would make it unlawful and actually a 10-year federal felony for you to possess a gun.

BLOCK: OK. So I fill this out at the dealer, and what happens to it then?

CHIPMAN: Then what the dealer does is that he or she takes that information and calls the FBI, and they compare that information to a list of people who shouldn't have a gun. And as long as you don't match any of those names, the dealer is allowed to proceed, and that's what happens in over 90 percent of the cases. And it actually happens in a matter of moments, quicker than it will take you to buy a cup of coffee.

BLOCK: What happens to this form at that point?

CHIPMAN: That form is always kept in paper form in the dealer shop, and there are about 60,000 dealers all across the country. And it's an agreement that these forms be kept in a manual fashion to make sure that there could be no computerized registry of these records.

BLOCK: And the NICS information, the instant background check information, what happens to that?

CHIPMAN: Well, it depends at what happens with the check. If you're part of those over 90 percent of the people who passed the check, that information that you even had your name called in is destroyed in 24 hours.

BLOCK: It has to be, by law, correct?

CHIPMAN: By law.
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After failure to debunk the video I posted, IO and Oh my changed subjects. why am I not surprised.
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Bored wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
After failure to debunk the video I posted, IO and Oh my changed subjects. why am I not surprised.
What is there to debunk, that someone embezzeled money, sounds like human nature.

Or are you talking about the charges of "massive voter registration fraud"?

I see you've avoided discussing State Law that requires the submission of ALL Voter Registration Forms regardless of their content. Where is the fraud if voter canvassing groups are required to submit ALL registration forms.

It is you who will change the subject, or ignore the question.
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This is the current law on Background Checks, this has not led to a national registry, why the opposition to extending this to ALL gun transactions.
Oh yeah?

ATF has never maintained a database of lawful firearms owners? Oh, yeah? What about this:

The ATF Firearm Tracing System (eTrace) provides manual & automated data retrieval of lawful firearms owners and transactions from the following sources:

1. All previous firearms traces from all sources,
2. Dealer, Importer, and Manufacturer computer, paper or microfilm Bound Book Out-of-Business records (including digital files required by ATF Ruling 2008-2),
3. Dealer Bound Book records (computer and/or paper) copied or photographed by ATF during annual inspections.
4 ATF Form 4473 from dealers copied or photographed during annual inspections and in Out-of-Business records.
5. Multiple Firearm Sales reports (ATF F 3310.4)
6. Traditional trace phone calls to the manufacturer, distributor and final selling dealer,
7. Additional data sources, such as some state firearms sales records as required by state law or policy.
8. Dealer Bound Books over 20 years old voluntarily sent in to ATF, including some antique firearms allowed to be entered in Bound Books.
9. Stolen firearms reported to ATF (Not NCIC).
10. System 2000 automated retrieval system from manufacturers, importers and distributors (100 companies as of 2010)
11. Certain firearms dealers required by ATF to report certain used firearms transaction to ATF for entry into the Firearms Tracing System.
12. For every firearm reported stolen to the NCIC stolen firearms database, New Jersey now automatically submits a trace to ATF (NJ Trace System). ATF is reported as working on a similar program.
13. Some state firearm registration systems are being loaded into the ATF tracing system.
14. In a press release, New Jersey admits tracing (from police records) all of private gun purchases into the ATF Firearms Tracing System through eTrace. By state law, New York and Connecticut also require tracing of all such private purchase firearms.
15. ATF hired private consultants to catalog information on firearms and submit trace requests from police departments to ATF.
16. ATF has imposed a requirement (pilot project) to report all dealer multiple sales (2 or more) of all semi-auto rifles with a detachable magazine greater than .22 caliber.(Currently restricted to California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas border states with Mexico). This requirement
includes 100 year old Model 1907 Winchester rifles, WWII M1 Carbines, German G43 rifles, FN 49 rifles, and many other historic firearms of primary
interest to collectors which are not known to be used by Mexican drug catels. Over 7,000 lawful firearm sales reported to date.

This is not an inclusive list, as other sources exist.

Lawful firearms owners and transaction records are held in the following ATF databases at ATFs National Tracing Center in Martinsburg, West Virginia:

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