HB. 689 Bicycle Proposed Law
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Clete Purcell

Jasper, GA

#21 Oct 6, 2013
observation wrote:
Bad law. Its about money. If it is safety they are concerned with, then I still don't understand how the same biker that is "licensed" but doing the same thing the "unlicensed" biker is doing makes it safer.
Its the SAME activity, just now it has a fee attached. I see nothing that makes it safer. Just a tax.
Politicians are idiots.
The bill is about more than registration. It has rules for bikes like no more than four to a group and no side by side riding. As close to the side of the road as possible. Some roads can be closed to bikes.
etc.
Bikes are a hazard on mountain roads. Go play on a bike path somewhere. People in general are getting fed up with all this bicycle recreation on our roads.
Truth

Winder, GA

#22 Oct 6, 2013
Clete Purcell wrote:
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The bill is about more than registration. It has rules for bikes like no more than four to a group and no side by side riding. As close to the side of the road as possible. Some roads can be closed to bikes.
etc.
Bikes are a hazard on mountain roads. Go play on a bike path somewhere. People in general are getting fed up with all this bicycle recreation on our roads.
But yet they are happy to have them spend money here can't have it both ways
move over

Commerce, GA

#23 Oct 6, 2013
My Opinion wrote:
No way should a us highway such as the one over Blood Mtn. be basically "closed" for hours while thousands of bicycles go over the mountain, sometimes 5 miles per hour. That's what happened last week.
I've been driving the mtn 4 times a week for 15 yrs. The bicycles have never bothered me. The motorcycles, a little. But I'm still alive, and so are most of them.
observation

Dawsonville, GA

#24 Oct 6, 2013
I support the "Rules" part of the bill - not the registration and tax part. Good lord they just gotta find a way to monetize everything nowadays.

And I am not against all Bikers on roads up here - but the whole "Share the Road" campaign cost lots of money to promote this stuff. Now they are suddenly surprised when bikers and drivers are coming at odds. And their main solution is to go overboard, and pass a law that would even require 5 year olds on training wheels on private cul-de-sacs to have licensed bikes.

Politicians and bureaucrats are idiots. IDIOTS.
Clete Purcell

Jasper, GA

#25 Oct 6, 2013
observation wrote:
I support the "Rules" part of the bill - not the registration and tax part. Good lord they just gotta find a way to monetize everything nowadays.
And I am not against all Bikers on roads up here - but the whole "Share the Road" campaign cost lots of money to promote this stuff. Now they are suddenly surprised when bikers and drivers are coming at odds. And their main solution is to go overboard, and pass a law that would even require 5 year olds on training wheels on private cul-de-sacs to have licensed bikes.
Politicians and bureaucrats are idiots. IDIOTS.
It is not about money. The registration is a fee for the cost of registration and A metal tag. There are admin costs. This is not a tax.
Rich Golfer

Dawsonville, GA

#26 Oct 6, 2013
Clete Purcell wrote:
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Plenty of exercise bikes for sale.
Bicycles are a safety hazard for themselves and motorists. Do you want your children's school bus passing a line of bikes on a mountain road with limited visibility. I don't know how many times I myself have been afraid when passing a whole row of these things on Blood Mountain; no guard rails and nowhere to go but down the mountain, straight down. You have to go completely into the oncoming lane to pass. It is unsafe.
I can't imagine when you are on the roads with all the posting you do on topix.

What else shall we ban? Come on, you can think of something, I'm sure.

This law if screwed up.

I'm more terrified of crotch rockets on the roads than a bike.
Rich Golfer

Dawsonville, GA

#27 Oct 6, 2013
Clete Purcell wrote:
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Plenty of exercise bikes for sale.
Bicycles are a safety hazard for themselves and motorists. Do you want your children's school bus passing a line of bikes on a mountain road with limited visibility. I don't know how many times I myself have been afraid when passing a whole row of these things on Blood Mountain; no guard rails and nowhere to go but down the mountain, straight down. You have to go completely into the oncoming lane to pass. It is unsafe.
Now, I've lived here a long time and haven't heard about a school bus and bike accident, yet.
Informed Opinion

Cape Coral, FL

#28 Oct 6, 2013
self indulgent wrote:
<quoted text>Just suck us dry with ObamaCare to try to keep you obese self-indulgent couch potatoes alive a little longer. God will give you a bill to pay at the pearly gate.
Hey.... Maybe if we have sidewalks these freeloading deadbeats who hate that ObamaCare pried their greedy fingers out of my pocket, could walk to collect their Socialist Security, Medicare, and Medicaid checks, and be in better shape - that's save us responsible Americans a fortune.

Or... God forbid, they get a job and buy their own medical insurance.
so much for GOP small gov

Canton, GA

#29 Oct 7, 2013
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/07/georg...

Bicycle registry? Yes, you read that title correctly. Three Republican representatives, Carl Rogers, Lee Hawkins and Emory Dunahoo (all from Gainesville) have proposed an…interesting amendment. They want to amend the motor vehicle registration law (Title 40 of the Official Code of Georgia) to include a bicycle registry. The proposed amendment would require every owner of a bicycle to register and license it with the state for the purpose of an identification process.

The three state legislators were reportedly influenced by local businessman Jim Syfan, of Syfan Logistics. Syfan told 11Alive News he had pushed a bill like this for years.

Why a bill for a bicycle registry?

“It’s not meant to stop anyone from riding,” Syfan said.“What it’s meant to do is create an identification process.” Syfan continues his personal rationale,”[Most bikers] are nice guys, they’re people, but once in awhile you’ll get a guy that will ride in the middle of the road and flip you off. This is to identify the guys that are not abiding by the rules.”

The bill as proposed would require either a one time registration fee or an annual charge. That would be your choice. Pay them $48 now, once. Or $15 a year, every year. If caught without the proper registration a misdemeanor crime conviction and a fine of $100. But the bicycle registry law wouldn’t end there.

Bicyclists would be required to have a license plate attached. Groups of cyclists would be limited by law to 4 riders which must be spaced 4 feet apart from one another in single file line. The must also keep a 50 foot distance between their group and any other group of riders or face the long arm of the law.

“Syfan also said it’s a safety issue.” As reported by the local NBC affiliate.”The more riders know they’ll be accountable to the rules of the road, the more cautious they’ll be.”

This bicycle registry however, does not apply to,

“any motor vehicle, bicycle, or trailer owned by the state or any municipality or other political subdivision of this state and used exclusively for governmental functions.”
so much for GOP small gov

Canton, GA

#30 Oct 7, 2013
Article continued:

Did you get that? Any man, woman or child owning a bicycle must pay for licensing and registration. All this from the political party that stands on the platform of smaller government intrusion and no taxes. Why? So they can keep an identification log of those evil pedal pushers and fine them accordingly. But that same law does not and will not apply to any state or city vehicles for governmental use.
Finally! A bicycle registry to protect poor, defenseless SUV drivers!

Need to curtail that gang of 9 year olds terrorizing your neighborhood with their loud, obnoxious rides? Streamers flailing, baseball cards intimidatingly clicking in their spokes, once you make the turn for home on your daily commute? Well this bicycle registry is for you.

Feel the need to protect the highways and byways of your local community from 5 or more spandex clad men and women of mischief? Hopefully, your 3000 pound, 4 door luxury tank will protect you from all that fitness fueled mountain bike mayhem. If not, well, now we’ll have a bicycle registry to catch these evil-doers..

And let’s not forget, these registrations and license requirements are non-transferable. Finally sounding a death knell to the never-ending black market sale of hand-me-down two-wheeled terror transporters. No. Each and every sale of a bicycle (new or used) will require the new owner to register and license their newly purchased nuisance machine or face statewide misdemeanor criminal charges.

This law will become legislative legend. Republicans, of course, are staunchly opposed to any form of taxation. This particular law will serve more as a lesson in accountability and, only as a side benefit, a revenue generator. Really!

Never mind that the sponsors of the bicycle registryl refused comment until the public hearing to be held on Monday, October 7th, at the Hall County Government Center in Hall County, Georgia. This bill is destined to be peddled toward progression. Kevin Mooney, a manager at Bike Town USA in Gainesville, Georgia said,”When I first saw it, I honestly thought it was a joke.” Oh, it’s no joke Mr. Mooney.

Forget that a similar bicycle registry law was attempted in San Diego, California but had to be repealed a year later because of civil disobedience. This is Georgia. Where your 2nd Amendment rights shall not be infringed but your kids better not ride that contraption into the street. Where you can buy a gun off the street from a complete stranger without any documentation or registration whatsoever but outlaw pedal pushers must be tracked through a state registry. Nothing unreasonable about this new Georgia bill at all. You just have to get in line with the priorities Georgia law makers are peddling: Four deep, four feet apart. And fifty feet of separation between one group of three men and their trek toward insanity.
so much for GOP small gov

Canton, GA

#31 Oct 7, 2013
First part of article did not post: addictinginfo. org/2013/10/07/georgia-bicycle -registry/

Bicycle registry? Yes, you read that title correctly. Three Republican representatives, Carl Rogers, Lee Hawkins and Emory Dunahoo (all from Gainesville) have proposed an…interesting amendment. They want to amend the motor vehicle registration law (Title 40 of the Official Code of Georgia) to include a bicycle registry. The proposed amendment would require every owner of a bicycle to register and license it with the state for the purpose of an identification process.

The three state legislators were reportedly influenced by local businessman Jim Syfan, of Syfan Logistics. Syfan told 11Alive News he had pushed a bill like this for years.

Why a bill for a bicycle registry?

“It’s not meant to stop anyone from riding,” Syfan said.“What it’s meant to do is create an identification process.” Syfan continues his personal rationale,”[Most bikers] are nice guys, they’re people, but once in awhile you’ll get a guy that will ride in the middle of the road and flip you off. This is to identify the guys that are not abiding by the rules.”

The bill as proposed would require either a one time registration fee or an annual charge. That would be your choice. Pay them $48 now, once. Or $15 a year, every year. If caught without the proper registration a misdemeanor crime conviction and a fine of $100. But the bicycle registry law wouldn’t end there.

Bicyclists would be required to have a license plate attached. Groups of cyclists would be limited by law to 4 riders which must be spaced 4 feet apart from one another in single file line. The must also keep a 50 foot distance between their group and any other group of riders or face the long arm of the law.

“Syfan also said it’s a safety issue.” As reported by the local NBC affiliate.”The more riders know they’ll be accountable to the rules of the road, the more cautious they’ll be.”

This bicycle registry however, does not apply to,

“any motor vehicle, bicycle, or trailer owned by the state or any municipality or other political subdivision of this state and used exclusively for governmental functions.”
observation

Dawsonville, GA

#32 Oct 7, 2013
As I have said - nothing to make anything Safer - just a tax, another bit of conrol, another bit of Big Brother intruding insanely and unnecessarily into our lives.

If this passes - then I think it is safe to say that Government has officially declared War against Common Sense and our Rights.

PS... And this is from a person, me, who really doesn't like all the bikers on the roads and does think they are dangerous. But this "Solution" is insane, and even more dangerous.

My solution would simply to pass some basic laws regarding the operation of bikes on roadways. Rules, just like automobile and motorcyclists have to follow. It is easily justifiable. For instance, there are laws regarding minimum speeds on highways for a reason - so if we are going to allow dangerous situations on mountain highways regarding bicycles that are less visible, and operate at more inconsistent speeds, lesser speeds - then there need to be rules in place so that both bikers and auto drivers know what to expect.

Perhaps mandate some sort of visibility standard on the back of bikes, vest colors etc. I do like the maximum group size limitation, and I do support the fact that they should be forced to ride in single file except when passing each other, and have guidelines for passing, and perhaps guidelines / rules for automobiles passing.

In defense of the cyclists - if a car intentionally tries to run them off the road, or throws something at a biker - it should be a severe and stiff penalty - criminal w/fine.

But the tax and registration needs to go because it is the the end result of what happens when you put idiots, called politicians, in charge. IDIOTS!

IDIOTS!
Union Co resident

Jefferson, GA

#33 Oct 7, 2013
We who drive cars, trucks and motorcycles have to pay taxes and by fuel.. Bicycles that ride on public roads and streets should have to pay taxes for the usage of the areas they ride also.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#34 Oct 7, 2013
My Opinion wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
No way should a us highway such as the one over Blood Mtn. be basically "closed" for hours while thousands of bicycles go over the mountain, sometimes 5 miles per hour. That's what happened last week.
Heck, it be like gettin' stuck behind a piece slow moving of farm machinery, it's just another example of liberal tyranny !!!!!!
My Opinion

Blairsville, GA

#35 Oct 7, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Heck, it be like gettin' stuck behind a piece slow moving of farm machinery, it's just another example of liberal tyranny !!!!!!
You're almost right in your comparison. The only differences are:(1) a slow moving piece of farm machinery would not be in front of you for about 20 miles like the hundreds of bicycles were,(2) a slow moving piece of farm machinery is one piece and easily passable after a period of time where hundreds of bicycles were extending the length the entire mountain.

I surmise that you didn't go over the mountain at the time all those riders were on the mountain.
grandpa

Commerce, GA

#36 Oct 7, 2013
what about my HoverRound chair, and my HurryCane, and my grandson's ATV that he scoots down the road to get to the woods. Do I have to pay taxes and put tags on them?
I'm going to start wearing Spandex if I don't get some answers.......and it ain't gonna be pretty.
I ride a bike

Dawsonville, GA

#37 Oct 7, 2013
I know...let's tax the hikers next.
I hate to see those two-legged critters walking along Blood Mountain and other areas with a backpack. I'm so afraid I'll run over one!!!

How about joggers on the highway. That scares me, too, especially if it's a man in shorts. The distraction, you know.

Hey, what about motorcycles? Now, those are really bad news. They wanta go fast and cars just piddle along over the mountain. TAX THEIR ASS.

What a group of mf'ing assholes.
I ride a bike

Dawsonville, GA

#38 Oct 7, 2013
We have people from all over the country and world who ride these mountains. Just like we have people who hike, camp, and tour the area.

This is the stupiest idea I've ever heard.

He He

Commerce, GA

#39 Oct 7, 2013
I ride a bike wrote:
I know...let's tax the hikers next.
I hate to see those two-legged critters walking along Blood Mountain and other areas with a backpack. I'm so afraid I'll run over one!!!
How about joggers on the highway. That scares me, too, especially if it's a man in shorts. The distraction, you know.
Hey, what about motorcycles? Now, those are really bad news. They wanta go fast and cars just piddle along over the mountain. TAX THEIR ASS.
What a group of mf'ing assholes.
Everyone just hates bicycles. You know bicyclist just work their legs so they can ride their ass.
Informed Opinion

Cape Coral, FL

#40 Oct 7, 2013
grandpa wrote:
what about my HoverRound chair, and my HurryCane, and my grandson's ATV that he scoots down the road to get to the woods. Do I have to pay taxes and put tags on them?
I'm going to start wearing Spandex if I don't get some answers.......and it ain't gonna be pretty.
You never know.

There are some widows in Union County that might crash into you just to get into that spandex.

You da man !

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