SPLOST results SLAPS Opponents

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Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#1 Nov 5, 2013
Those who spread misinformation and discord are on their way to utter humiliation and defeat. Early voting for SPLOST is 834 yes 279 no. Hundreds of Union residents have voted they support Lamar and his leadership and the direction of our county, not his few enemies, both those who live here and those who are not from here. Perhaps those who are disgruntled and leave here and find a place more to their liking.
Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#2 Nov 5, 2013
Uh, make that THOUSANDS who support our county and the leaders we elected.
Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#3 Nov 5, 2013
Three precincts remaining. Yes 1497. No 605
just me

Dawsonville, GA

#4 Nov 5, 2013
Norm C wrote:
Those who spread misinformation and discord are on their way to utter humiliation and defeat. Early voting for SPLOST is 834 yes 279 no. Hundreds of Union residents have voted they support Lamar and his leadership and the direction of our county, not his few enemies, both those who live here and those who are not from here. Perhaps those who are disgruntled and leave here and find a place more to their liking.
We are not humiliated or defeat.

We do see that there could be vote tampering once again or a lot of mis-informed voters that were lied to in the last several weeks by Lamar. He used threats and scare tactics telling people their taxes would go up if they did not vote yes.

Don't worry this is only the beginning Norm.
joe

Jefferson, GA

#5 Nov 5, 2013
just me wrote:
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We are not humiliated or defeat.
We do see that there could be vote tampering once again or a lot of mis-informed voters that were lied to in the last several weeks by Lamar. He used threats and scare tactics telling people their taxes would go up if they did not vote yes.
Don't worry this is only the beginning Norm.
BS!
joe

Jefferson, GA

#6 Nov 5, 2013
Norm C wrote:
Those who spread misinformation and discord are on their way to utter humiliation and defeat. Early voting for SPLOST is 834 yes 279 no. Hundreds of Union residents have voted they support Lamar and his leadership and the direction of our county, not his few enemies, both those who live here and those who are not from here. Perhaps those who are disgruntled and leave here and find a place more to their liking.
AMEN!
Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#7 Nov 5, 2013
just me wrote:
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We are not humiliated or defeat.
We do see that there could be vote tampering once again or a lot of mis-informed voters that were lied to in the last several weeks by Lamar. He used threats and scare tactics telling people their taxes would go up if they did not vote yes.
Don't worry this is only the beginning Norm.
Want some cheese with that Whine? Face it, the voters have spoken. You are in the minority.
Right Wing Nut III

Winterville, GA

#8 Nov 5, 2013
Norm C wrote:
Uh, make that THOUSANDS who support our county and the leaders we elected.
I never believed this would not pass, but I believe BIG Government will bite us in the butt sooner than later with our huge Government Employee Numbers and all the continuing entitlements that come out of Government. The National deficit is 17 Trillion and going up each second of the day. We also believe bigger government in Union County will necessitate keeping the SPLOST tax permanently and raising our property taxes also. I believe this is true and I feel sad that some very intelligent people like you and Lamar and a whole lot of YES voters apparently do not. Do you people really believe we can add Government Employees, new expenses from Maintenance on SPLOST projects and keep adding more SPLOST projects doing the same things and not increase our property tax burdens? You call it progress, then go to Gwinnett, or Fulton Counties and tell me you want to live there and that you want UNION to be just like them. Union is where we live, if PROGRESS is more traffic, more crime, more Liberalism, more taxes, more pollution, more subdivisions on the side of God created Mountains, and a turn from God in general, then I strongly disagree with you.
Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#9 Nov 5, 2013
Right Wing Nut III wrote:
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I never believed this would not pass, but I believe BIG Government will bite us in the butt sooner than later with our huge Government Employee Numbers and all the continuing entitlements that come out of Government. The National deficit is 17 Trillion and going up each second of the day. We also believe bigger government in Union County will necessitate keeping the SPLOST tax permanently and raising our property taxes also. I believe this is true and I feel sad that some very intelligent people like you and Lamar and a whole lot of YES voters apparently do not. Do you people really believe we can add Government Employees, new expenses from Maintenance on SPLOST projects and keep adding more SPLOST projects doing the same things and not increase our property tax burdens? You call it progress, then go to Gwinnett, or Fulton Counties and tell me you want to live there and that you want UNION to be just like them. Union is where we live, if PROGRESS is more traffic, more crime, more Liberalism, more taxes, more pollution, more subdivisions on the side of God created Mountains, and a turn from God in general, then I strongly disagree with you.
There is a great difference between Metro Atlanta and Blairsville, I know because I have lived and worked in both. What you fear can not and will not happen here for many reasons, but I sense you'd rather argue than listen to reason, thus I shalt not waste the time to discuss it. This gloom and doom has been preached for the last dozen years, yet it has not happened. We have limited GOOD Growth while most counties in Georgia, Tennessee and North Carolina who are similar is size have fizzled and faltered. We live in a great county. We have great people. Perhaps you should buy my magazine and educate yourself. www.abpgeorgia.com
Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#10 Nov 5, 2013
Final SPLOST vote.
1767 Yes Votes for it to pass -70.31%
746 against - 29.69%

Here is another way of looking at this vote.

People who agree with the Misinformers - Less than 30%.
People who rejected the messengers of misinformation - Over 70%.

No insults. Just Facts!
Snowflake

Griffin, GA

#11 Nov 5, 2013
Norm C wrote:
Final SPLOST vote.
1767 Yes Votes for it to pass -70.31%
746 against - 29.69%
Here is another way of looking at this vote.
People who agree with the Misinformers - Less than 30%.
People who rejected the messengers of misinformation - Over 70%.
No insults. Just Facts!
I voted yes!
SimpleSimon

Dawsonville, GA

#12 Nov 5, 2013
No. If you are going to be insulting, lets flip it.

People that are blind to the mis-use of our tax dollars: 70%

People that wanted more answers, and are tired of the mis-use of tax dollars: 30%

Too bad so many people have no clue.
Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#13 Nov 5, 2013
SimpleSimon wrote:
No. If you are going to be insulting, lets flip it.
People that are blind to the mis-use of our tax dollars: 70%
People that wanted more answers, and are tired of the mis-use of tax dollars: 30%
Too bad so many people have no clue.
Boring!
Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#14 Nov 5, 2013
There is actually another way at looking at this election.

Less than 6% of all eligible voters actually voted no. Let the losers whine.
tmv post

AOL

#15 Nov 5, 2013
I am comfortable with the results of the election. It changes nothing. Next News Report already has an outline. Larger distribution. More fish added into the frying pan. More facts.
Little Davey

Blairsville, GA

#16 Nov 5, 2013
tmv post wrote:
I am comfortable with the results of the election. It changes nothing. Next News Report already has an outline. Larger distribution. More fish added into the frying pan. More facts.
Hey, it's a good thing that you're comfortable losing. You need to get used to it. You need to ask The Mountain for more power.

“Our Cause Isn't Lost”

Since: Jan 11

Blairsville, GA

#17 Nov 5, 2013
SimpleSimon wrote:
No. If you are going to be insulting, lets flip it.
People that are blind to the mis-use of our tax dollars: 70%
People that wanted more answers, and are tired of the mis-use of tax dollars: 30%
Too bad so many people have no clue.
Good way to look at it.

Everyone living in Union County knew from the start this was an uphill battle. After all anyone living here over an extended period of time understands exactly what has happened with previous anomalies, the lack of concern, and the general willingness to ignore the seriousness of the failure to implement heightened security precautions that would instill more confidence in our local elections and voting procedures.

But sour grapes donít, and never have accomplished a noble cause.

So to follow your lead, lets continue to view this from a more realistic perspective.

Yes, the Nation is asleep, as are many in Blairsville/Union County. After all not many will now admit TWICE voting for Obama as things now quickly collapse.

The same will hold true in our community, those asleep, will continue to awaken, and the in indifferences will dissolve as more and more feel the pain as they witness the waste and abuse.

I suggest we should look at what was accomplished, not the immediate loss of this battle.

In an off year, when the County normally doesnít vote, and without formal organization, 30% of our voters awakened and voted NO MORE --- that will only increase as we approach the General Elections. Then, once again, we are given the opportunity to replace those we believe not to be acting in our best interests with NEW and RESPONSIVE LEADERSHIP.

Just a scenario to consider, based upon tonightís returns should ratios stay consistent.

Tonights yes SPLOST vote 70%(Commissionerís [machine] votes)---
No SPLOST vote 30%(the peoples [those awaken] votes).


Simply logic/math:

I suggest 70% to be a maximum for those having to support the current Commissioner/power brokers.

Those awakened, a firm 30% who are now aware and very displeased with the manner in which they believe their hard earned dollars have been expended, inappropriately utilized, and accounted for.

Each time you awaken another of those who actually are registered to vote, they come from one of two pools.

Your opponents votes Ė in this case that 70%---
Or a voter who normally doesnít vote, but decides to after becoming aware of government inefficiencies directly affecting their lives, or a personal dislike of a Candidate.

Consider this, we only need to take 20%+ 1 of our opponents voters to be victorious. Actually that margin isnít insurmountable, bearing in mind the advantage is now ours, and time is, as well, is now in our favor.

So for us, the battle becomes easier and more focused.

Come together, get organized, and continue to awaken those asleep.

Norm C

Cleveland, GA

#18 Nov 5, 2013
There are 70% of the voters who are laughing. "Oh, look, the losers think they are awake."

“Our Cause Isn't Lost”

Since: Jan 11

Blairsville, GA

#19 Nov 6, 2013
Norm C wrote:
There are 70% of the voters who are laughing. "Oh, look, the losers think they are awake."
Not so Norm, as you so quickly made point in another posting, only a measly 6% of registered voters bothered to vote. Yes, the apathy was pretty dismal. But, again, isnít that what you and the Commissioner were banking upon?

Early on opponents to the SPLOST, unmistakably pointed to the fact that the purpose of scheduling the vote at this early date, was for the specific purpose of relying upon a period of extremely low voter turn out to accomplish what proved to be a another sleazy ploy in which the Commissioner again knew it would only be necessary to delude a smaller group of people.

So, you see, you have, in this case, that 70% being only of a total of 6% of the total registered voters in the entire county. And, we in opposition produced just under 1/3 of that same small group.

What Iím saying is; very few people in Union County are laughing.

No, to the contrary I suspect a large majority our taxpayers, when they realize that they will once again feel the pain of again paying so dearly for the actions of so few, will be quite angry.

And at some point in the not too distant future, this anger is going to materialize at the polls in mass and remove those responsible.

Gloat if you wish, but you have misjudged the security of you positions in the past, as I belief you, as well as The Commissioner will continue as you persist in your misjudgement, and underestimating the will of the community.

“Our Cause Isn't Lost”

Since: Jan 11

Blairsville, GA

#20 Nov 6, 2013
Excuse my spelling errors, its late, and it appears I canít proof read any better that Norm did.

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