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The tinting was a way to hide inmates that have been beaten worse than the Rodney King case. Some had no mug shots taken. To torture an inmate is an disgrace. When your Mayor's assistant can't look at the pictures taken of he beating, her words, "just to hard to look at". My reply, this is thanks to your local police department.
the people of Union county would be surprised at all the police brutality that have taken place. Six officers attacking a man handcuffed, with wittiness. Pictures taken of results. Permanent damages. Many many human rights violated. A few Deputies really love to hurt people. If you read in past post a statement make a Mexican wet their pants. Why is he still a Deputy? Leader to torture, humiliate and show how much power that badge and gun has given him. Too bad there are bad very bad cops.
Back to the tinted windows I have asked for professional advice and was told by an attorney I have the largest lawsuit case in the state. The white undercover car had black windows a huge metal grill on the front. Visited a relative after dark. Left the parking lot. The undercover car followed my car for about twenty miles across the mountain very close within an inch of our bumper. Three people in the car two praying out load. Even on double lanes my car was moving at five miles an hour. The undercover car tinted windows stayed on my bumper. The very near future we are going to investigate this matter. Before that night about six months before I was told on Topix that they could run me off the mountain or plant drugs in my car. This was removed from Topixs about a month later, written by Psycho. I'm sure it's still on the hard drive if someone retrieves it in time.
Tinted windows creates a cover for police while committing crimes.
still smoking your kids dope, huh?
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still smoking your kids dope, huh?
Never smoked anything.

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<quoted text>The reason UC has gone Republican is because the Democratic incumbents don't know when to quit... You got to know when to bow out gracefully. The local party blindly supports the incumbent even tho...it's a losing proposition.
Maybe it isn’t going “Republican”, maybe you are right, some just don’t know when to quit. That happens when greed and corruption slip in some times. Little things become big things and the offender just doesn’t seem to see the writing on the wall. That doesn’t mean the public doesn’t. Sometimes it takes a while, but eventually truth will emerge.

In a momentary synopsis that’s happened in Blairsville in the 2012 election.

It seems the Commissioner, had his hands full keeping his seat.

That happens when one ignores the general welfare of the populace, has an elitist image and agenda, is disingenuous, and falls to name calling in open battle with constituents.

With that said, our sole Commissioner had to focus upon keeping his job. You’ll recall he only garnished about a ten percent lead over his opposition, a heretofore unknown to the political arena.

I acquiesce to the view that the Commissioner knowing that the Tax Commissioner, had even more serious problems than he; seeing as how he (the Tax Commissioner) had that haunting IOU debacle, along with the theft of around $65,000 on his watch, including a following controversy surrounding payback of the money, delayed indictment/prosecution/sentenc ing, and other questionable issues; So, of course, it would be to their mutual interest to come to agreement and embrace the concept that due to the Tax Commissioners age and in light of indefensible situations for the Tax Commissioner; along with a declining status quo for the Commissioner, that it would be a good time for the Tax Commissioner to retire, so as to concentrate all their efforts toward reelection of the Commissioner.

Sadly I think, the situation with the Former Sheriff was somewhat more hard hearted.

The Former Sheriff was widely known to have had serious image problems for various reasons, some unarguably self-imposed.

Nevertheless, the problems went far beyond just that. All locals will recall the whys and hows of his first election, and I will not pretend to be knowledgeable to the point of any reasonable assessments of fact with regard to those issues.

Nevertheless, it is widely believed, and I will go a step further to say exhibited, that the Former Sheriff simply did not have control over his department.

Lastly, and most widely speculated, was the notion that the Former Sheriff was nothing more than a pawn of local politicians, and the elite.

Now, depending upon the validity of any of the above speculations (you are the judge) and the direct or indirect participation of the Former Sheriff; what appeared to follow, to me, is the sad part.

A conscious decision was made to throw the Former Sheriff under the bus. Thus he was cut loose and on his own. So therefore, being the most visible and viable distraction available ... he was left to sink or swim.

Clearly, not to take anything from what I see as an excellent campaign ran by the two worthy and victorious Candidates. The Community should achieve benefit from what appears to be two newly elected officials, and until proven differently, people of good will seeking to better our community should support the New Sheriff and Tax Commissioner.

Naturally my opinions as express here will be disputed, particularly by the supporters of those holding the elected offices addressed here. Many times a man’s closest advisers are unaware of his actions, or lack thereof.

Nothing may be taken at face value; everything must be checked and then checked once again. If you weren’t party to an action, decision, or event beware of offering defense on its behalf.

As stated in the first paragraph eventually truth will emerge, avoid being the pawn delaying that emergence.

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Truthis Blairsville wrote:
<quoted text>The reason UC has gone Republican is because the Democratic incumbents don't know when to quit... You got to know when to bow out gracefully. The local party blindly supports the incumbent even tho...it's a losing proposition.
Maybe it isn’t going “Republican”, maybe you are right, some just don’t know when to quit. That happens when greed and corruption slip in some times. Little things become big things and the offender just doesn’t seem to see the writing on the wall. That doesn’t mean the public doesn’t. Sometimes it takes a while, but eventually truth will emerge.

In a momentary synopsis that’s happened in Blairsville in the 2012 election.

It seems the Commissioner, had his hands full keeping his seat.

That happens when one ignores the general welfare of the populace, has an elitist image and agenda, is disingenuous, and falls to name calling in open battle with constituents.

With that said, our sole Commissioner had to focus upon keeping his job. You’ll recall he only garnished about a ten percent lead over his opposition, a heretofore unknown to the political arena.

I acquiesce to the view that the Commissioner knowing that the Tax Commissioner, had even more serious problems than he; seeing as how he (the Tax Commissioner) had that haunting IOU debacle, along with the theft of around $65,000 on his watch, including a following controversy surrounding payback of the money, delayed indictment/prosecution/sentenc ing, and other questionable issues; that it would be to their mutual interest to come to agreement and embrace that due to the Tax Commissioners age and in light of indefensible situations for the Tax Commissioner; along with a declining status quo for the Commissioner, that it would be a good time for the Tax Commissioner to retire; and concentrate all their efforts toward reelection of the Commissioner.

Sadly I think, the situation with the Former Sheriff was somewhat more hard hearted.

The Former Sheriff was widely known to have had serious image problems for various reasons, some unarguably self-imposed.

Nevertheless, the problems went far beyond just that. All locals will recall the whys and hows of his first election, and I will not pretend to be knowledgeable to the point of any reasonable assessments of fact with regard to those issues.

Nevertheless, it is widely believed, and I will go a step further to say exhibited, that the Former Sheriff simply did not have control over his department.

Lastly, and most widely speculated, was the notion that the Former Sheriff was nothing more than a pawn of local politicians, and the elite.

Now, depending upon the validity of any of the above speculations (you are the judge) and the direct or indirect participation of the Former Sheriff; what appeared to follow, to me, is the sad part.

A conscious decision was made to throw the Former Sheriff under the bus. Thus, he was cut loose and on his own. So therefore, being the most visible and viable distraction available ... he was left to sink or swim.

To be clear, this isn’t to take anything from what I see as an excellent campaign ran by the two worthy and victorious Candidates.

The Community should achieve benefit from what appears to be two newly elected officials, and until proven differently, people of good will seeking to better our community should support the New Sheriff and Tax Commissioner.

Naturally my opinions, as express here, will be disputed, particularly by the supporters of those holding the elected offices addressed here. Many times a man’s closest advisers are unaware of his actions, or lack thereof. Nothing may be taken at face value; everything must be checked and then checked once again. If you weren’t party to an action, decision, or event beware of offering defense on its behalf.

As stated in the first paragraph eventually truth will emerge, avoid being the pawn delaying that emergence.
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Bet you did not know wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure he is sorry for your concern about communication. he decided to use English and I know how confusing that can be to some ignorant backer chewing overall wearing fool with the pockets cut out of his overalls so he can play pocket pool while discussing important matter such as when turkey season opens. I think someone needs to go by the jail and pass on your most important suggestion
I don't chew "backer" as you call it. I don't hunt turkeys or any other animal, I've seen enough blood, I don't even wear overalls. What's wrong with a little pocket pool?

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Jan 22, 2013
 
Excuse the double post – having Topix problems again.
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The new boss, same as the old boss...

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I find it rather revealing when new or different posting names appear, opening with only negative remarks, and not exhibiting enough intelligence to offer, or attempt to offer, even a shred of evidence, or minimum factual content upon which they arrive at their “opinion.”

It makes it pretty easy from the start to identify them as being scandalous, having only the desire of nothing more than attempting to stir up trouble and discontent. I think many well-meaning posters quickly recognize those who are unworthy of being taken seriously.
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Bill wrote:
Got several more GED investigators who need to find work and prove themselves elsewhere.
Mack,
32 signed the letter. I expect for you to hold them to there words. I don't care if you have to hire Mexicans, I want their asses sent packing.
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I don't necessarily agree with the second part because probably at the point in time of signing this letter, they were # 1 being loyal to their sheriff & # 2 wanted their job. So upon Stephens losing, they still wanted their job, therefore them making the decision to call Mack & ask for their job. I heard just about all of them called him. Can't help but think that all of us would probably do the same thing. Times are difficult so time to bite the bullet. I, for one, am glad to see Stephens out. He had been in there for too long & became way too comfortable. I'm also glad to see the ones that were let go, let go. There are a few others that I would've liked to have seen walk like the rest but they didn't. I say let them either shape up or ship them out. Politics are politics and it's an ugly, cruel "game" but such is life. I'm sure as time goes on, & Mack gets his office the way that he feels that it should be, like with Stephens, the officers will be loyal to him as well. Hardly anyone enjoys change but one has to put on their big boy & big girl pants & do their job.

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I don't necessarily agree with the second part because probably at the point in time of signing this letter, they were # 1 being loyal to their sheriff & # 2 wanted their job. So upon Stephens losing, they still wanted their job, therefore them making the decision to call Mack & ask for their job. I heard just about all of them called him. Can't help but think that all of us would probably do the same thing. Times are difficult so time to bite the bullet. I, for one, am glad to see Stephens out. He had been in there for too long & became way too comfortable. I'm also glad to see the ones that were let go, let go. There are a few others that I would've liked to have seen walk like the rest but they didn't. I say let them either shape up or ship them out. Politics are politics and it's an ugly, cruel "game" but such is life. I'm sure as time goes on, & Mack gets his office the way that he feels that it should be, like with Stephens, the officers will be loyal to him as well. Hardly anyone enjoys change but one has to put on their big boy & big girl pants & do their job.
Sometime one must make tough decisions. If you are a man of honor, plus a professional Law Enforcement Officer, you must take your stand upon the Law. Illegal orders may be refused, and of course, all Constitutional Lawful orders must be obeyed. If you are unwilling or unable to accept that responsibility you simply don’t need, or deserve to be in Law Enforcement.

Each man signing that letter was personally responsible for knowing the law. The Former Sheriff also had the same responsibility.

The letter to which you refer, and the signing and publishing thereof (under color of Law) was clearly a violation of Federal Law. Each Deputy at that point in time had a decision to make regarding his/her participation. Any questionable signature could have been refuted at that time.

Sure there would have been risks for each individual, nevertheless, each made a decision to abide by the law, and rely upon a process of vindication, or ignore the laws they were sworn to uphold and suffer the consequences.

It’s really just that simple. Sheriff Mason’s decision’s, I trust, were based upon verifiable evidence of duress, documented for any potential defense processes, and appropriate actions taken upon each case.
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Well if they are not man enough to stand alone and do the right thing, they have no business in LE
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Do you really think theses deputies understand that much about the "color" of laws?
This was a bunch of cowards hiding behind tinted windows playing cop and robbers.

No one took them serious, especially the tax payers of our county.

Look at how the fire dept is being operated. The use fire trucks as road blocks and run to every fender bender to stay busy--to look busy--How many fires do they fight? Or am I just wrong?
Maybe- wrote:
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Sometime one must make tough decisions. If you are a man of honor, plus a professional Law Enforcement Officer, you must take your stand upon the Law. Illegal orders may be refused, and of course, all Constitutional Lawful orders must be obeyed. If you are unwilling or unable to accept that responsibility you simply don’t need, or deserve to be in Law Enforcement.
Each man signing that letter was personally responsible for knowing the law. The Former Sheriff also had the same responsibility.
The letter to which you refer, and the signing and publishing thereof (under color of Law) was clearly a violation of Federal Law. Each Deputy at that point in time had a decision to make regarding his/her participation. Any questionable signature could have been refuted at that time.
Sure there would have been risks for each individual, nevertheless, each made a decision to abide by the law, and rely upon a process of vindication, or ignore the laws they were sworn to uphold and suffer the consequences.
It’s really just that simple. Sheriff Mason’s decision’s, I trust, were based upon verifiable evidence of duress, documented for any potential defense processes, and appropriate actions taken upon each case.
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Do you really think theses deputies understand that much about the "color" of laws?
This was a bunch of cowards hiding behind tinted windows playing cop and robbers.
No one took them serious, especially the tax payers of our county.
Look at how the fire dept is being operated. The use fire trucks as road blocks and run to every fender bender to stay busy--to look busy--How many fires do they fight? Or am I just wrong?
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Nah, just wait tip your house catches on fire.
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Now give me " What if it was your family" and "if it saves just one life" crap.

Those lines are used to justify and explain explainable waste.
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Nah, just wait tip your house catches on fire.

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Mayor wrote:
Do you really think theses deputies understand that much about the "color" of laws?
This was a bunch of cowards hiding behind tinted windows playing cop and robbers.
No one took them serious, especially the tax payers of our county.
Look at how the fire dept is being operated. The use fire trucks as road blocks and run to every fender bender to stay busy--to look busy--How many fires do they fight? Or am I just wrong?
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The reference I made regarding “Color of Law”- I ‘m sure you realize was in the statutory context.

A good definition that generally conveys the basic fundamentals of violating that statute is as follows:

“The conduct of a police officer, judge, or another person clothed with governmental authority that, although it superficially appears to be within the individual’s lawful power, is actually in contravention of the law.”

So, there appears to be no disagreement.

Also, you make a valid point, regarding the Fire Service.

The latest trend/fad is a combination of Fire and EMS services. Similar to Public Safety Communities that combine Fire, EMS, and Police.

Controversy surrounds the benefits and liabilities of such various combinations to the point of frenzy.

I can tell you from experience in each field, each is a specialized, specific, and all-consuming profession. You can make a full commitment to either, and achieve excellence in that field, but it isn’t possible to achieve excellence in them all.

Therefore, an agency combining the professions improperly eventually does a disservice to its community and those employees.

Ultimately creating a situation of attempting to be a jack of all trades unnecessarily results in man power shortages, safety concerns, and catastrophic conditions for both the public safety personnel and the public.

On the budgeting side of the equation, if the budgeting for each agency isn’t independent, one branch will normally dominate the other(s) take the lion's share of funding and leaving the remaining service(s) inadequate.

Here in Blairsville, currently our Fire and EMS coordinate to a limited extent. The potential problem is:

Now firefighters are required have EMT certification, in addition to firefighter certifications. Thus, they are First Responders.

So therefore, the Fire Department, depending upon local, regional and state requirements are obligated, if certified, to respond to certain “First Responder Medical Calls”.

Upon answering such call the fire apparatus must be out of service. Thus, even if you are across the street from the Fire Station, a Fire apparatus from another Station (area) would have to respond to your fire. Needless to say the delay could be fatal.

You have now created a situation where each certified fire apparatus having EMS certified First Responders now having First Responder Events supersedes Fire calls of any nature inclusive of Structure fires.

In due course, the fire service diminishes, as the EMS utilizes the First Responder mandates to take advantage of the fire service as their primary assessment vehicles, and delay the use of the Ambulances for the more profitable private transports.
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horselover wrote:
Well as for me im not repulican , but i still voted for Mack because i knew he was the best one for the sheriffs office . Long as he gets job done better than stephens did i dont care . May the best man win an Mack did ..Way to go Mack.
But, you have still not listed his law services. Oh but wait, he was trained in disasters. Wow, we need that.
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BP Lover wrote:
I am so glad we have a Sheriff that is NOT afraid of the druggies in this town anymore and is cleaning up this town....Might be another Walking Tall Buford Pusser
And do you remember what happened to Buford Pusser and his wife?
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Thanks for the info.
Very good post with good information.
I did not know all of this but I have been watching a silly show of trying to look busy. Thanks.
Maybe- wrote:
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The reference I made regarding “Color of Law”- I ‘m sure you realize was in the statutory context.
A good definition that generally conveys the basic fundamentals of violating that statute is as follows:
“The conduct of a police officer, judge, or another person clothed with governmental authority that, although it superficially appears to be within the individual’s lawful power, is actually in contravention of the law.”
So, there appears to be no disagreement.
Also, you make a valid point, regarding the Fire Service.
The latest trend/fad is a combination of Fire and EMS services. Similar to Public Safety Communities that combine Fire, EMS, and Police.
Controversy surrounds the benefits and liabilities of such various combinations to the point of frenzy.
I can tell you from experience in each field, each is a specialized, specific, and all-consuming profession. You can make a full commitment to either, and achieve excellence in that field, but it isn’t possible to achieve excellence in them all.
Therefore, an agency combining the professions improperly eventually does a disservice to its community and those employees.
Ultimately creating a situation of attempting to be a jack of all trades unnecessarily results in man power shortages, safety concerns, and catastrophic conditions for both the public safety personnel and the public.
On the budgeting side of the equation, if the budgeting for each agency isn’t independent, one branch will normally dominate the other(s) take the lion's share of funding and leaving the remaining service(s) inadequate.
Here in Blairsville, currently our Fire and EMS coordinate to a limited extent. The potential problem is:
Now firefighters are required have EMT certification, in addition to firefighter certifications. Thus, they are First Responders.
So therefore, the Fire Department, depending upon local, regional and state requirements are obligated, if certified, to respond to certain “First Responder Medical Calls”.
Upon answering such call the fire apparatus must be out of service. Thus, even if you are across the street from the Fire Station, a Fire apparatus from another Station (area) would have to respond to your fire. Needless to say the delay could be fatal.
You have now created a situation where each certified fire apparatus having EMS certified First Responders now having First Responder Events supersedes Fire calls of any nature inclusive of Structure fires.
In due course, the fire service diminishes, as the EMS utilizes the First Responder mandates to take advantage of the fire service as their primary assessment vehicles, and delay the use of the Ambulances for the more profitable private transports.
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UC Voter wrote:
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You got facts. NO PATROL CARS IN OUR AREA!!!
Hey, don't report a crime in Union County, the officer will tell you that it is a civil matter. The Civil court will tell you that it is a criminal offence. What are the education requirements to be an officer in our county? Just handle the matter yourself in any way that you can get away with.
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i think the fire dept needs an overhaul now. just saying

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