Can you afford Obamacare?

Can you afford Obamacare?

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ellijay

Ellijay, GA

#1 Oct 2, 2013
http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator...

Check this out to see if you can afford Obamacare. You might be surprised at the rates. Bear in mind you can not at this time get a subsidy if you live in Georgia.
tomworker

Jefferson, GA

#2 Oct 2, 2013
If seems to me GA is the problem since they won't expand Medicaid and we are not eligible for subsidies. We are screwed because of where we live.
Rich Golfer

Dawsonville, GA

#3 Oct 2, 2013
tomworker wrote:
If seems to me GA is the problem since they won't expand Medicaid and we are not eligible for subsidies. We are screwed because of where we live.
GA gives away too much as it is. No expansion necessary.
U R NUTS

Augusta, GA

#4 Oct 2, 2013
tomworker wrote:
If seems to me GA is the problem since they won't expand Medicaid and we are not eligible for subsidies. We are screwed because of where we live.
No, you are "screwed because" of the fiasco now called ObamaCare, your lack of comprehension, and an unquenchable thrust for even more unsustainable subsidies that you desire to paid by anyone but you as you feed at the trough.

The problem isn't Georgia, the problem is an unworkable disaster being force upon the Nation in lieu of responsible and reasonable healthcare reform being in the best interest of all Americans.

And those individuals such as you, who appear to be more interested in more and more subsidies rather than rational reform.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#5 Oct 3, 2013
tomworker wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
If seems to me GA is the problem since they won't expand Medicaid and we are not eligible for subsidies. We are screwed because of where we live.
Many Georgians projected to get exchange subsidy
By: Andy MillerPublished: Apr 3, 2013
http://www.georgiahealthnews.com/2013/04/geor...

More than 800,000 Georgians will be eligible for new government subsidies next year to buy coverage in a health insurance exchange, according to a report released Wednesday.

The subsidies or tax credits will help defray the cost of insurance for individuals and families on the new exchanges, set to launch in January under the Affordable Care Act.

The report, from consumer advocacy group Families USA, a longtime supporter of the 2010 health care law, also found that most Georgians eligible for credits are in working families and have incomes between two and four times the federal poverty level, or about $47,100 to $94,200 for a family of four.

The lower a person’s income, the higher the subsidies will be. The money generally won’t go directly to taxpayers but to insurers, with the consumer getting the benefit in reduced premiums.

The credits are “a game changer’’ for individuals and families now uninsured or in the individual insurance market, said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA.

“The tax credit premium subsidy will reach into the middle class,’’ Pollack added. In Georgia, nearly 90 percent of those eligible for the credit are in families in which at least one person is a worker.

Two-thirds of the eligible Georgians are ages 18 to 54. Slightly more than half are white, 28 percent black, and 13 percent Hispanic, the study found.

The counties with the highest numbers of people eligible are clustered in the populous metro Atlanta area: Fulton, with 77,410; Gwinnett, 71,510; DeKalb, 62,510; and Cobb, 48,940.

Georgia has 1.9 million uninsured — roughly one in five residents. That’s one of the highest uninsured populations and rates in the nation, noted Cindy Zeldin of consumer group Georgians for a Healthy Future.

“There’s still a lot of confusion about the upcoming changes,’’ Zeldin said. Currently, she noted, individual and family insurance policies are often expensive and have major coverage gaps. The credits will “level the playing field’’ in insurance for those who don’t have access to job-based coverage, she said.

“Too many consumers don’t yet know that tax credits are available to them,’’ Zeldin added.
BCBS

Lavonia, GA

#6 Oct 3, 2013
My family cannot get health insurance without ACA. I went with a middle of the road package from Blue Cross and was quoted about $890/mo for our family of three. Not cheap but I am more than happy to pay it than have nothing and risk having a serious health crisis and massive bills that we can't pay. The past few years have been nerve wracking not having any insurance, especially not having any insurance for my daughter.
ellijay

Ellijay, GA

#7 Oct 3, 2013
BCBS wrote:
My family cannot get health insurance without ACA. I went with a middle of the road package from Blue Cross and was quoted about $890/mo for our family of three. Not cheap but I am more than happy to pay it than have nothing and risk having a serious health crisis and massive bills that we can't pay. The past few years have been nerve wracking not having any insurance, especially not having any insurance for my daughter.
So you are saying that you can afford $890/month? If so you must not have any other expenses or really wealthy one.
Informed Opinion

Cleveland, GA

#8 Oct 3, 2013
U R NUTS wrote:
<quoted text>No, you are "screwed because" of the fiasco now called ObamaCare, your lack of comprehension, and an unquenchable thrust for even more unsustainable subsidies that you desire to paid by anyone but you as you feed at the trough.

The problem isn't Georgia, the problem is an unworkable disaster being force upon the Nation in lieu of responsible and reasonable healthcare reform being in the best interest of all Americans.

And those individuals such as you, who appear to be more interested in more and more subsidies rather than rational reform.
Waaahhhhh !

Waaahhhhh !

I want responsible Americans to keep giving us freeloading Right Wing deadbeats free medical care.

It costs too much to be responsible for myself and my family.

I'm a Right Winger - we never, ever, ever, pay our own way. We suck on the government teat and whine that we need more of everyone else's money.

Waaaahhhh !

Stop whining, and get your deadbeat hands out of my wallet, and buy your own damn medical insurance, or pay the penalty.

Damn... Do Right Wingers ever even hit puberty.
CITY LIFE NOW

Calhoun, GA

#9 Oct 3, 2013
The way I look at this American Citizens should not be forced into buying health insurance it is your legal right to have or not to have. What next ban on how many children you can have sounds like a Communist country. YEA!!!
america

Jefferson, GA

#10 Oct 3, 2013
CITY LIFE NOW wrote:
The way I look at this American Citizens should not be forced into buying health insurance it is your legal right to have or not to have. What next ban on how many children you can have sounds like a Communist country. YEA!!!
So your car and your house is more valuable than the life of you and your family?? Ga requires car insurance and If you get caught without it, you pay a fine AND your tag will be suspended. You then have to pay a fee to reinstate it. But, I forget, you people put more value in cars and materialistic items, rather than your life.
CITY LIFE NOW

Calhoun, GA

#11 Oct 3, 2013
america wrote:
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So your car and your house is more valuable than the life of you and your family?? Ga requires car insurance and If you get caught without it, you pay a fine AND your tag will be suspended. You then have to pay a fee to reinstate it. But, I forget, you people put more value in cars and materialistic items, rather than your life.
I have life auto health and car insurance that I pay for out of my own pocket, you must be one of "those" people who gets free government help. It's YOUR choice to have a car so therefore you need insurance if you own your own home it's YOUR choice to carry insurance nobody is enforcing me to do that.So if my house gets blew away that my ass and my CHOICE. You don't get it one LAW OF THE LAND LEADS TO ANOTHER AND ANOTHER before you know it will be a dictatorship not a leadership!!!!
Informed Opinion

Demorest, GA

#12 Oct 3, 2013
america wrote:
<quoted text>So your car and your house is more valuable than the life of you and your family?? Ga requires car insurance and If you get caught without it, you pay a fine AND your tag will be suspended. You then have to pay a fee to reinstate it. But, I forget, you people put more value in cars and materialistic items, rather than your life.
How many of these freeloading deadbeats without insurance will watch their sick or injured kids die, instead of making us responsible Americans pay their medical bills.

Walk I to any ER and look at the mass of freeloading deadbeats getting free medical care at everyone else's expense.

Typical Right wingers... They never, ever, ever, pay for their wars, their medical care, or their tax breaks.

Like Ronnie Ray-Gun said "Ask what your country can do for you - not what you can do for your country."
america

Jefferson, GA

#13 Oct 3, 2013
CITY LIFE NOW wrote:
<quoted text> I have life auto health and car insurance that I pay for out of my own pocket, you must be one of "those" people who gets free government help. It's YOUR choice to have a car so therefore you need insurance if you own your own home it's YOUR choice to carry insurance nobody is enforcing me to do that.So if my house gets blew away that my ass and my CHOICE. You don't get it one LAW OF THE LAND LEADS TO ANOTHER AND ANOTHER before you know it will be a dictatorship not a leadership!!!!
If you hold a mortgage, your required to insurance your house, the full price of your house. If you finance a car, your required to purchase full coverage on that car. The key word is REQUIRED, you don't have a choice. And, tell me, who lives in Blairsville that doesn't drive a car? It's a necessity if you live in a rural area. Now, there may be a handful that don't have a car, but if you work and have children that need to get around for their various activities, you can't sidestep a car. I'm sure, though, you'll argue it til the cows come home, but the facts are in front of you. And no, I don't get any government help. I work, have insurance thru my work, and my 2 children are covered under that insurance too. No handouts here, I just am real and know that the government is in our business whether we like it or not. Everything, from where you can build a house, to how close you can build to a creek/river, to every other thing you can imagine. But, I do feel healthcare is a necisity, not an option.
Informed Opinion

Demorest, GA

#14 Oct 4, 2013
america wrote:
<quoted text>If you hold a mortgage, your required to insurance your house, the full price of your house. If you finance a car, your required to purchase full coverage on that car. The key word is REQUIRED, you don't have a choice. And, tell me, who lives in Blairsville that doesn't drive a car? It's a necessity if you live in a rural area. Now, there may be a handful that don't have a car, but if you work and have children that need to get around for their various activities, you can't sidestep a car. I'm sure, though, you'll argue it til the cows come home, but the facts are in front of you. And no, I don't get any government help. I work, have insurance thru my work, and my 2 children are covered under that insurance too. No handouts here, I just am real and know that the government is in our business whether we like it or not. Everything, from where you can build a house, to how close you can build to a creek/river, to every other thing you can imagine. But, I do feel healthcare is a necisity, not an option.
Great post.
Informed Opinion

Demorest, GA

#15 Oct 4, 2013
http://nyti.ms/18zCnSP

A militant fringe of one party in one house of Congress in one branch of government is trying to nullify an established law by extortion.
treetop

Jefferson, GA

#16 Oct 4, 2013
What is Obamacare? Is it something new? Never heard of it.
Dirty South

Dahlonega, GA

#17 Oct 5, 2013
The actual problem is that America can not decide between Fascism and Socialism now that capitalism has utterly failed. If the people do not get active those with vested interest will continue to push their agendas. Either way this is going means bad news for all of us..Left Right and center..
Informed Opinion

United States

#18 Oct 5, 2013
Dirty South wrote:
The actual problem is that America can not decide between Fascism and Socialism now that capitalism has utterly failed. If the people do not get active those with vested interest will continue to push their agendas. Either way this is going means bad news for all of us..Left Right and center..
A truly insightful post.

Absolutely spot on.

Unregulated Capitalism has proven once again to destroy the host country that sponsors it. It always has, and by design always must result in monopolies and oligarchies.

Since Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, and Eisenhower our "Mixed Economy" provided for a Middle Class with sufficient resources to battle the überrich, maintaining an equilibrium in the distribution of wealth and power.

Now, the überrich have convinced Right Wingers that whether Joan marries Sally is more important than whether they live their lives as serfs. As they destroy the unions they wonder why wages and benefits fall. As they empower the wealthy to make more and more laws favoring the wealthy, they wonder why the wealthy get wealthier, and the poor get poorer.

If, and when sanity returns it will be in the form of a Mixed Economy,(Part Regulated Capitalism and Part Socialism), with a government that protects the rights of the people and the private sector unions, as well as the rights of the corporations.
it is his fault

Blue Ridge, GA

#19 Oct 5, 2013
You know by throwing out there the term "serfs", that you will upset a few on the far right. Especially ones from our rural area. Because they will have to learn a little about history.
Informed Opinion

United States

#20 Oct 5, 2013
it is his fault wrote:
You know by throwing out there the term "serfs", that you will upset a few on the far right. Especially ones from our rural area. Because they will have to learn a little about history.
You are absolutely correct.

As I get older, and hopefully wiser, I am more and more surprised at how hard the serfs work to encourage their own serfdom.

Why in the world any working person would be anti-union; or against the government forcing insurers to actually pay medical costs and actually insure people; and would be against the government requiring people carry medical insurance and providing access to insurance pools for states that refuse to insure the uninsured; is beyond comprehension.

As someone who has raised his children to profit from the average American's political and financial impotence, it is always amazing that no matter how often your explain to them the "game is rigged against them", they continue to support those who rig the game.

The average American is far more concerned to assure ADM's and Goldman Sachs' profits continue to explode, as opposed to his neighbor's ability to avoid homelessness.

I recently encountered another professional whose spouse incurred over $2 Million Dollars in medical bills, and another whose 24 year old son incurred $600K in medical bills, both would be bankrupt but for ObamaCare's requirement of unlimited medical care and the requirement children up to age 26 be insured, and yet both vehemently opposed to ObamaCare.

Now, having lost in the democratic process, and ObamaCare enacted, the Right Wing Wackos engage in extortion to achieve what democracy denied them, and the Right Wingers encourage such terroristic tactics, to deny themselves medical care.

What explains that ?

Thank God the Dawgs won, the Gators are winning, and Arturo Fuente still makes great cigars.

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