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Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#61 Mar 19, 2013
Must be an outlyer...

Houston-Area Tea Party Leader Had Ties to Fascist Party
by Emily Ramshaw March 18, 2013

As recently as 2003, the president of the Greater Fort Bend County Tea Party had a very different title: director of propaganda for the American Fascist Party.

James Ives, a prominent Tea Party activist who has hosted statewide rallies and political debates and has been a regular contributor on conservative radio, was the AFP's fourth in command, commenting about the party’s principles on a fascist message board. An image of Ives in what appears to be a black uniform with yellow shoulder patches can be seen in a 2006 promotional video for the party.

Ives tells a more nuanced story; the Richmond, Texas, resident says he stumbled across the fascist party — which supports extreme right-wing authoritarian regimes — online in the early 2000s as an “amateur political science student and frustrated novelist” and was merely curious.

“From my point of view, it was all pro-Constitution, pro-America,” Ives said of the group, which appears to be defunct....
Informed Opinion

Sunapee, NH

#62 Mar 19, 2013
Oh my wrote:
Must be an outlyer...

Houston-Area Tea Party Leader Had Ties to Fascist Party
by Emily Ramshaw March 18, 2013

As recently as 2003, the president of the Greater Fort Bend County Tea Party had a very different title: director of propaganda for the American Fascist Party.

James Ives, a prominent Tea Party activist who has hosted statewide rallies and political debates and has been a regular contributor on conservative radio, was the AFP's fourth in command, commenting about the party’s principles on a fascist message board. An image of Ives in what appears to be a black uniform with yellow shoulder patches can be seen in a 2006 promotional video for the party.

Ives tells a more nuanced story; the Richmond, Texas, resident says he stumbled across the fascist party — which supports extreme right-wing authoritarian regimes — online in the early 2000s as an “amateur political science student and frustrated novelist” and was merely curious.

“From my point of view, it was all pro-Constitution, pro-America,” Ives said of the group, which appears to be defunct....
Easy mistake to make- confusing Fascism with Representational Democracy.

Wait ... He went to school in Texas.

Then it's not his fault.

In Texas schools science and rational thought have been replaced by Creationism and Faith - Fundamentalist Creationism and Snake Handling Faith though - those damn Catholics, Presbyterians, Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs got it all wrong.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#63 Mar 19, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
A free-market capitalist society without an overcrowded, superstitious, undereducated, underemployed, and underpaid proletariat savagely clamoring for every lowest-paying, future-less job on the market would be like a toilet that always flushes three gallons of water, even when there is only a tiny little corn-turd in it.
you are a lot better than the original Informed.
Less talkative with less bs.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#64 Mar 19, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>you are a lot better than the original Informed.
Less talkative with less bs.
Oh, that was so unkind.
Moore and Cook

Commerce, GA

#65 Mar 19, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, that was so unkind.

Dudley Moore: Is my entire contribution to this show going to consist of my humiliating myself?

Peter Cook: No, Dudley. We'll do that for you.

Dudley Moore: Thank you. I wouldn't want to be appreciated or anything.

Peter Cook: Well, we initially tried looking up to you, Dudley... but when we did, we invariably found ourselves looking down.
Moore and Cook

Commerce, GA

#66 Mar 19, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, that was so unkind.

Eleanor Bron: Sorry, sir. The club's full.

Upper Class Man: But I have an invitation. Do you know who I am?

Peter Cook:[to the people in the queue] Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen. May I have everyone's attention for a moment? This gentleman doesn't seem to know who he is. If anyone here recognises this man, can you come to the front of the queue and tell him his name.
Moore and Cook

Commerce, GA

#67 Mar 19, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, that was so unkind.

Dudley Moore: Why do you constantly belittle me?

Peter Cook: Dudley, I don't think it's possible to belittle a club-footed dwarf whose only talent is to play Chopsticks in the style of Debussy.
Moore

Commerce, GA

#68 Mar 19, 2013
Are you allergic to compassion?
Cook

Commerce, GA

#69 Mar 19, 2013

Only in suppository form.

Informed Opinion

Sunapee, NH

#70 Mar 20, 2013
Moore and Cook wrote:
<quoted text>Dudley Moore: Why do you constantly belittle me?

Peter Cook: Dudley, I don't think it's possible to belittle a club-footed dwarf whose only talent is to play Chopsticks in the style of Debussy.
Sounds like these are from a movie, that I might enjoy.

Please give us the title and hopefully it's on Netflix or Roku.

Thanks.

As an old trial lawyer said to me once after a very spirited argument:

"When you opposing counsel resorts to personal attacks - it means you have won the argument and the judgment is just awaitin collection - start planning on buying that new car."

Thanks again - looking forward to watching the movie.
Informed Opinion

Sunapee, NH

#71 Mar 20, 2013
They should be so proud of themselves, attempting to keep Americans from voting by making false allegation against ACORN

Doesn't it suck to be held accountable for your actions and conduct - wait - Right Wingers don't believe in personal responsibility - so maybe not.

In 2009, a series of videos were released in which workers at several offices of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) appeared to advise a young couple on how to hide prostitution activities and avoid taxes, resulting in news media and political uproar. The videos, which were recorded secretly by conservative activists Hannah Giles and James O'Keefe (the "young couple"), were released on Fox News and the website BigGovernment.com from September into November 2009. They quickly generated widespread, negative publicity for ACORN, a non-profit organization involved in voter registration, community organizing and advocacy for low- and moderate-income people for nearly 40 years. O'Keefe explained in September 2009 that he "targeted ACORN for the same reasons that the political right does: its massive voter registration drives".[1] Soon ACORN also lost most of its private funding, despite several independent investigations that by December 2009 began to reveal no criminal activity by ACORN staff had taken place. ACORN filed for Chapter 7 liquidation on November 2, 2010, effectively closing the organization.[2]

Independent investigations were made by state attorneys general of Massachusetts and California, and the U.S. Attorney of Brooklyn, New York; their reports were released beginning in December 2009 and extending through April 2010. The attorney general's office in Massachusetts and the U.S. Attorney for Brooklyn concluded that the ACORN workers had committed no criminal activity and that the videos were "heavily edited" to present material out of context and create a misleading impression of activities.[3][4][5][6][7][8][ 9]

The California Attorney General's comparison of the raw videos with the released versions found that the published videos had been heavily edited to misrepresent the workers and the situations so as to suggest criminal intent and activity.[10][11][12][13] The California report was followed by one by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, which reported that ACORN workers had not misused government funds or participated in the criminal activities represented in the videos.[14][15] But, ACORN was effectively destroyed by then.[16]

On March 5, 2013, O'Keefe agreed to pay the fired employee, Juan Carlos Vera,$100,000. O'Keefe acknowledged in the settlement that at the time he published his video he was unaware that Vera had, in fact, notified the police about the incident. Further, the settlement contains the following apology: "O'Keefe regrets any pain suffered by Mr. Vera or his family."[21]
Bored

Commerce, GA

#72 Mar 20, 2013
Moore and Cook wrote:
<quoted text>
Dudley Moore: Why do you constantly belittle me?
Peter Cook: Dudley, I don't think it's possible to belittle a club-footed dwarf whose only talent is to play Chopsticks in the style of Debussy.
I like Moore and Cook.
Better than Informed O.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#73 Mar 20, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
They should be so proud of themselves, attempting to keep Americans from voting by making false allegation against ACORN
Doesn't it suck to be held accountable for your actions and conduct - wait - Right Wingers don't believe in personal responsibility - so maybe not.
In 2009, a series of videos were released in which workers at several offices of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) appeared to advise a young couple on how to hide prostitution activities and avoid taxes, resulting in news media and political uproar. The videos, which were recorded secretly by conservative activists Hannah Giles and James O'Keefe (the "young couple"), were released on Fox News and the website BigGovernment.com from September into November 2009. They quickly generated widespread, negative publicity for ACORN, a non-profit organization involved in voter registration, community organizing and advocacy for low- and moderate-income people for nearly 40 years. O'Keefe explained in September 2009 that he "targeted ACORN for the same reasons that the political right does: its massive voter registration drives".[1] Soon ACORN also lost most of its private funding, despite several independent investigations that by December 2009 began to reveal no criminal activity by ACORN staff had taken place. ACORN filed for Chapter 7 liquidation on November 2, 2010, effectively closing the organization.[2]
Independent investigations were made by state attorneys general of Massachusetts and California, and the U.S. Attorney of Brooklyn, New York; their reports were released beginning in December 2009 and extending through April 2010. The attorney general's office in Massachusetts and the U.S. Attorney for Brooklyn concluded that the ACORN workers had committed no criminal activity and that the videos were "heavily edited" to present material out of context and create a misleading impression of activities.[3][4][5][6][7][8][ 9]
The California Attorney General's comparison of the raw videos with the released versions found that the published videos had been heavily edited to misrepresent the workers and the situations so as to suggest criminal intent and activity.[10][11][12][13] The California report was followed by one by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, which reported that ACORN workers had not misused government funds or participated in the criminal activities represented in the videos.[14][15] But, ACORN was effectively destroyed by then.[16]
On March 5, 2013, O'Keefe agreed to pay the fired employee, Juan Carlos Vera,$100,000. O'Keefe acknowledged in the settlement that at the time he published his video he was unaware that Vera had, in fact, notified the police about the incident. Further, the settlement contains the following apology: "O'Keefe regrets any pain suffered by Mr. Vera or his family."[21]
Booring.

Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#74 Mar 20, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>Booring.
Of course.

Right Winger always find facts boring- That's why they ignore them.

Perhaps the only thing more boring to Right Wingers than facts - is the concept of personal accountability.

I have to apologize for my inability to make either facts or accountability exciting to a Right Winger.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#75 Mar 20, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course.
Right Winger always find facts boring- That's why they ignore them.
Perhaps the only thing more boring to Right Wingers than facts - is the concept of personal accountability.
I have to apologize for my inability to make either facts or accountability exciting to a Right Winger.
Boring.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#76 Mar 22, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>Boring.
Of course it is.

It contains facts.
Yeppers

Pell City, AL

#77 Mar 22, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it is.
It contains facts.
News Flash!- NOBODY reads your incoherent babbling!
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#78 Mar 23, 2013
Yeppers wrote:
<quoted text>News Flash!- NOBODY reads your incoherent babbling!
Seems you just did.

Here's a hint.

If you want to claim you don't notice something - don't point out the very thing your trying to claim your not noticing.

Don't worry if it confuses you now, maybe they'll teach you the logic of that next year in 3rd grade.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#79 Mar 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>Seems you just did.

Here's a hint.

If you want to claim you don't notice something - don't point out the very thing your trying to claim your not noticing.

Don't worry if it confuses you now, maybe they'll teach you the logic of that next year in 3rd grade.
Wait... I'm sorry.... That's not fair.

If you're attending school in Alabama, that won't be covered until at least your college sophomore year.
Boring

Jefferson, GA

#80 Mar 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait... I'm sorry.... That's not fair.
If you're attending school in Alabama, that won't be covered until at least your college sophomore year.
U can't fix stupid.
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